John Terry

by JamesLincs Mon 09 Jul 2012, 2:51 pm

First topic message reminder :

I came on today hearing that his court case is today, thinking i was going to find a thread about it. i thought it was strange there wasnt one until to my disgust i read that the maximum punishment he will be getting is a £2,500 fine....

by GG Thu 12 Jul 2012, 4:12 pm

Spoiler:

by TopHat24/7 Thu 12 Jul 2012, 4:38 pm

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE hahaha what a dumb Muppet

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/9395243/John-Terry-racism-trial-Chelsea-captain-only-too-pleased-to-follow-orders-in-courtroom-gaff.html

by dublfcynwa Thu 12 Jul 2012, 4:38 pm

Terry did not say " I didnt call you a black etc" he said he repeated " You black etc" with a questiong tone in his voice, now to me that sounds like Terry trying to cover his ass but I understand some people might have a different opinion so we will just have to see what happens tomorrow. I personally think that if Suarez was banned by the fa for using racist language then Terry has clearly done the same and should also be banned no matter what his excuse is for using it.

by mystiroakey Thu 12 Jul 2012, 5:54 pm

So did ferdinand use those words before him?

has that been proven or not?- because nothing makes sense without the facts- and there doesnt seem to be anywhere just reporting the facts.

And If Ferdinand did- why isnt he up on charges as well?

by azania Thu 12 Jul 2012, 6:06 pm

mystiroakey wrote:Ok..

If i say on here "i didnt call you a black %$£^"

am i gonna get banned.

If i call you a black !"£$- i would get banned.

can you not see the difference?

You are not applying apples with apples hear. We are a developed country and we dont use derivatives of the N word. Its not the done thing in thois country. It maybe ok in his(but still not to the black population). We have rules over here- and anyone that comes here should abide by them and get treated the same(ignorance is never an excuse)

But we are allowed to say "i didnt call you a black etc"

there is a very clear defined difference and i stand by that.

Now this is not a question of did he do it or not- its a question of being proven guilty or not!

I will be happy if he is found guilty in the courts to be banned by the FA. If he is found inncocent he shouldnt be. Its simple where i stand

by The Galveston Giant Thu 12 Jul 2012, 6:45 pm

There is a big difference but surely Ferdinand will be able to answer if it's the case or not. I'm not sure i believe him but i'll wait and see.

by Guest Thu 12 Jul 2012, 6:52 pm

This still doesn't gel with Ferdinand story saying he was unaware of any racially offensive language used during his spat with Terry. If he'd heard it, confronted Terry about and be told he hadn't just been called a "f****** Black c***" then surely he'd have remembered this conversation.

Who's lying?

by mystiroakey Thu 12 Jul 2012, 6:55 pm

nothing adds up dave- there are so many chinese whispers floating about

by 4putt Fri 13 Jul 2012, 2:58 am

Ashley Cole was asked in court yesterday if he found it a bit uncomfortable to be closely associated with an alleged racist.

"Not really. We're divorced now" he replied

by Liam Fri 13 Jul 2012, 10:34 am

Everything is confusing at the moment, with no real facts about what really happened and in what context things were said in. I can't really make a judgement until the facts come out today. I don't like Terry, but I do find it hard that he would have said what he is have alleged to have said when he has team mates who are black who were on the field that day.

by super_realist Fri 13 Jul 2012, 10:37 am

Martyr, that's a silly argument and the biggest cliche going.

It's basically like saying "I'm not a racist but......., and I've got black mates too so how can I be"

by dublfcynwa Fri 13 Jul 2012, 10:50 am

BBC Sport's Richard Conway at Westminster Magistrates' court:"While the trial is drawing to a close, Terry does have the right to appeal to Crown Court if he is found guilty.
"An FA disciplinary investigation into the alleged racist incident at Loftus Road last October will likely continue, regardless of what verdict is delivered today, after being put on hold for 10 months due to the police and court process."

by Liam Fri 13 Jul 2012, 11:05 am

super_realist wrote:Martyr, that's a silly argument and the biggest cliche going.

It's basically like saying "I'm not a racist but......., and I've got black mates too so how can I be"

I know I just struggle to comprehend him saying that with Black team mates around him. Its a big risk to take, even in the heat of the moment. Although after him blatantly lying on sky about not kneeing Sanchez, then being made to look a right fool when presented with evidence then having to openly say he lied, I wouldn't be surprised if he is found guilty.

by Liam Fri 13 Jul 2012, 11:20 am

Actually I have seen the footage again and to me it looks pretty clear cut the context in which he uttered the statement. Realistically he should be sacked by Chelsea, can't see that happening.

by super_realist Fri 13 Jul 2012, 11:58 am

He's got a nerve going on about someones appearance any way Terry, when he's one of the ugliest footballers since Ian Dowie, who at least had a brain.
Terry has no redeeming qualities at all.

by mystiroakey Fri 13 Jul 2012, 11:59 am

I have meet a few girls that really fancy Terry SR.

by **Crimey** Fri 13 Jul 2012, 12:33 pm

mystiroakey wrote:I have meet a few girls that really fancy Terry SR.

You need to go to different places to meet girls then.

by mystiroakey Fri 13 Jul 2012, 12:39 pm

well actually loads do. he isnt a bad looking lad at all. We can say alot about him- but he isnt ugly

by **Crimey** Fri 13 Jul 2012, 12:41 pm

mystiroakey wrote:well actually loads do. he isnt a bad looking lad at all. We can say alot about him- but he isnt ugly

He really is. I've never heard anybody compliment on his looks, only point out how ugly he is.

I can't stress enough how strange it is that you know girls who find him attractive.

by mystiroakey Fri 13 Jul 2012, 12:43 pm

I cant stress how strange it is that you think he is ugly, jeasus with the players we have.. I am kinda shocked dude. Guy s not ugly in the lsightest- and that is me saying that, not the many girls that think he is attractive

by **Crimey** Fri 13 Jul 2012, 12:45 pm

mystiroakey wrote:I cant stress how strange it is that you think he is ugly, jeasus with the players we have.. I am kinda shocked dude. Guy s not ugly in the lsightest- and that is me saying that, not the many girls that think he is attractive

Well I've only known him to be notoriously ugly, but if you fancy him, each to their own I guess. Wink

by mystiroakey Fri 13 Jul 2012, 12:48 pm

Crimey he has never ever been notorisly ugly.. The guy is just a run of the mill cheeky london looking chappy- which alot of girs go for. He also has nothing out of place either. He is just your average lad. And i would never call him ugly.

A mate of mine is also the spit of him(and he gets plenty of girls- well he did before he got married)

by JamesLincs Fri 13 Jul 2012, 12:56 pm

he isnt ugly at all, but his soul is.

by super_realist Fri 13 Jul 2012, 1:10 pm

He looks about 50 and like a chav, thug, brainless moron.

I pity the girl who goes for that look.

by mystiroakey Fri 13 Jul 2012, 1:24 pm

What do you look like SR?

got a pic - so we can disscuss that look.

The truth is if terry wasnt a thug and a moron and a worngon- and he was a decent bloke, no one would call him ugly!

by Josiah Maiestas Fri 13 Jul 2012, 1:28 pm

Opinions of John Terry would soon change should he play for one of your clubs (realist, crimey, etc).

At the same time, I wouldn't trust him or many other high profile footballers to be decent, moral people either. Partly because of the abuse they hear from the loutish fans,
the kind of stuff which belongs in the 17th century.

by mystiroakey Fri 13 Jul 2012, 1:31 pm

I dont like people judging others on looks or types- its kind off missleading and i have personally done it myself when i was younger. In a way its similar to racism..

My mate looks so much like him(and his first name is terry!) that when we would go out the discussion was alot of the time about terry and loooks etc- thats why i have that insight...

Most people think i am med european(italian,spainish) because i have a darker complection and dont look english at all. I like that look.. But I am still 100% english. But just because someone looks a certain type doesnt mean they are.. Some girls like the tough english look and i suppose terry has that!

by super_realist Fri 13 Jul 2012, 1:33 pm

So Josiah, players behaviour is moulded by loutish fans? Ridiculous.

Terry is an uneducated scumbag even without his racism charge. NOthing to do with fans, all to do with being thicker than pig scheisse.

And yes, if he played for a club I "support" I'd still call him ugly.

by Josiah Maiestas Fri 13 Jul 2012, 1:51 pm

super_realist wrote:NOthing to do with fans, all to do with being thicker than pig scheisse.

I'd think you'd have to be quite intelligent to be a top defender, working out where the attack is going to come from.

by super_realist Fri 13 Jul 2012, 1:52 pm

Not really, just sporting instinct, nothing to do with intelligence, proven by Terry laughably saying "Please" four times yesterday.

by mystiroakey Fri 13 Jul 2012, 1:53 pm

SR if anyone believes that wasnt a joke......

by **Crimey** Fri 13 Jul 2012, 1:58 pm

Opinions of John Terry would soon change should he play for one of your clubs (realist, crimey, etc).

I'd think Terry was good looking if he played for my club? Headscratch

I know plenty of Chelsea fans who are sick of John Terry and think it's time he goes.

by super_realist Fri 13 Jul 2012, 1:59 pm

mystiroakey wrote:SR if anyone believes that wasnt a joke......

Terry isn't bright enough to make jokes, if he was he wouldn't be in court.

by mystiroakey Fri 13 Jul 2012, 2:00 pm

I think he is talking about terry as a human being!

to be fair we all mellowed during the euros when he did ok.. So he makes a valid point.

We were all on his back before the first gane- then we didnt talk about him again untill now!

by **Crimey** Fri 13 Jul 2012, 2:01 pm

mystiroakey wrote:I think he is talking about terry as a human being!

to be fair we all mellowed during the euros when he did ok.. So he makes a valid point.

We were all on his back before the first gane- then we didnt talk about him again untill now!

To be fair, I don't think we focused on many individual players, Rooney, Milner and Young probably got the most attention.

by mystiroakey Fri 13 Jul 2012, 2:01 pm

SR no one is gonna say please 4 times in court in that situ in a serious way ! lol surely he cant be that thick!!

by **Crimey** Fri 13 Jul 2012, 2:02 pm

mystiroakey wrote:SR no one is gonna say please 4 times in court in that situ in a serious way ! lol surely he cant be that thick!!

I really think he can be. He kneed a player in the back in the middle of a Champions League semi-final, then lied about it despite there being loads of cameras watching it.

by mystiroakey Fri 13 Jul 2012, 2:03 pm

Crimey- well i couldnt believe that- at least he owned up at the end.. jeasus

by super_realist Fri 13 Jul 2012, 2:04 pm

He's hardly in a position in court where he ought to be making jokes is he, if he was bright, he'd know that, but he's stupid so he said "please" four times in response to how the question was posed. picard

by TopHat24/7 Fri 13 Jul 2012, 2:38 pm

NOT GUILTY

No wonder the rich comes from all over the world to use our poxy justice system.

by JamesLincs Fri 13 Jul 2012, 2:38 pm

a chant should be made to the tune of cha cha slide. something like

how low can you go?
left foot, lets stamp
say please 4 times

everybody clap your hands

by mystiroakey Fri 13 Jul 2012, 2:49 pm

ok so thats it then, end of debate..............................

Not! is for me though

by azania Fri 13 Jul 2012, 3:03 pm

Sorry to be blunt but from my view, this is white man's justice. I suppose it's ok to say the N word as long as you're being 'sarcastic' about it.

As for Cole. I called him an Uncle Tom. Where I come from, his like would have been necklaced.

by Josiah Maiestas Fri 13 Jul 2012, 3:04 pm

Only thing Terry's guilty of is making exceedingly tasty Chocolate Orange.

by Josiah Maiestas Fri 13 Jul 2012, 3:07 pm

Where I come from, his like would have been necklaced.

Because he didn't show bias towards another person who happens to have the same colour?

Ashley Cole is a saint for not being blinded by colour like you obviously are.

by Soldier_Of_Fortune Fri 13 Jul 2012, 3:38 pm

The Terry family are scum bags. Full stop.

by mystiroakey Fri 13 Jul 2012, 3:40 pm

True soldier almost like scousers John Terry - Page 2 732107

- Terry did well imo from that background,

by azania Fri 13 Jul 2012, 3:42 pm

Josiah Maiestas wrote:
Where I come from, his like would have been necklaced.
Because he didn't show bias towards another person who happens to have the same colour?
Ashley Cole is a saint for not being blinded by colour like you obviously are.

The judge did.

I don't see how Terry's use of language escapes being racist.

As for Cole, at least he married a fit woman who was prosecuted for a racial attack. I see where he's coming from. As I said, uncle Tom.

by Guest Fri 13 Jul 2012, 3:44 pm

"As for Cole, at least he married a fit woman who was prosecuted for a racial attack."

Ah, but she only married Ashley to prove she wasn't racist. This is how racists operate apparently.

I gather John Terry's invite to next year's Notting Hill Carnival is already in the post.

by **hampo17** Fri 13 Jul 2012, 3:46 pm

No doubt the FA will brush this under the carpet. Use some excuse that because the he was found not guilty in a court of law they can't act.

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