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Post by azania Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:18 am

Let the fun begin. KO to the man in 3.

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Post by alanqlm Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:31 am

Khan started well, too quick.

But already being warned for pulling down of the head. Obviously hasn't learned.

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Post by Guest Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:34 am

Wow. Khan looks done!!!!

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Post by alanqlm Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:37 am

Can't see Khan getting outta this round, doesn't look like he can hurt Garcia and just getting walked down.

Though I think that was a poor call on a knockdown there in this round.

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Post by Guest Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:38 am

What now for Khan?

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Post by azania Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:39 am

Retire!

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Post by azania Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:41 am

A change of trainers as I've said before. Manny Steward? Khan has no jab. Good boxers set things up from the jab.

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Post by as1079 Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:43 am

FFS. That wasn't supposed to bloody happen.

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Post by JabMachineMK2 Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:43 am

Blistering speed, exceptional skill and courage but no chin. None. The second he got hit it was all over. Shame. Mayweather? LOL. He'd get murdered on fire

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:43 am

What now for khan? No floyd mayweather that's for sure

147 must be the next stop for him

He hasnt improved or learnt, got caught and tried to slug it out with a slugger

Fair play to Garcia, was crude but showed power

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Post by azania Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:46 am

Credit to Garcia though. Khan was open to the left hook and Danny took it.

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Post by alanqlm Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:48 am

Khan def needs to switch from Roach.

Think Steward would be perfect, could become pretty much a repeat of Wlad with his height and reach advantage over most at the weight.

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Post by Sugar Floyd Louis Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:56 am

I'm gobsmacked!!!! Azania you must be gutted lol

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Post by azania Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:04 am

Not gutted at all. Great fight and the better guy won. The good thing is that we'll get to see and hear more of Angel Garcia.

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Post by Sugar Floyd Louis Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:07 am

Laugh he's a complete nutter. Surely Khan-Brook now??? he'll definitely fancy that more now.

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Post by PPVxHOTTY Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:57 am

Sugar Floyd Louis wrote: Laugh he's a complete nutter. Surely Khan-Brook now??? he'll definitely fancy that more now.

Brook would annihilate Khan, people will talk about speed and combos but the harsh reality is Khan is just another amateur style pro! its still laughable beyond belief how many here actually at the time thought Khan could mix it up with the best i.e. Bradley, Mayweather.

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Post by Seanusarrilius Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:04 pm

Oh me oh my, this was a shock!

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:18 pm

Blame Haye for sending over his body improver or who ever he is. Khan looked weight drained at weigh in something was wrong.

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Post by Seanusarrilius Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:32 pm

Prescott now Garcia. Khan has a long road back

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:46 pm

Garcia won a SD with y old neighbourhood friend Ashley Theophane yet Khan gets koed by Garcia. Khan needs to realise that he does not have the chin and should find a trainer who can improve defence.

Also stay of Twitter Amir.

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Post by Seanusarrilius Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:49 pm

Agreed on trainer. Khan has no ring IQ, either

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Post by PPVxHOTTY Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:00 pm

Its also a matter of time before Chavez Jr is next to be exposed from wildcard, Roach seems to not preach or teach defense, as a fighter himself roach had no defense, imo he doesn't have the skill set to teach it. Roach's whole concept is attack attack and attack, that's what the whole mitt punching routine is all about. It's only one of the training methods used in the gym but Roach's entire training is based on punching the mitts.

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:00 pm

He has to move his head when in the pros he does not have headgear on anymore. Khan has the tools to beat some decent fighters but Garcia is not elite by any stretch of the imagination. Just think what Bradley would do to him OMG its not even funny is it and Khan reckoned Bradley was ducking him.

I would not be afraid to face Khan and I am not in the great shape that Bradley is in. At the end of the day a new trainer might help sure things up but that chin and lack of ability to fight back or survive when hurt cannot be taught.

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Post by hampo17 Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:52 pm

Wow didn't think Garcia had that kind of power, Maidana couldn't put Khan down despite hitting him cleanly a few times. Garcia vs Maidana would be a cracking shoot out.

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Post by Liam Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:10 pm

What a shock, just finished watching it. Garcia has VERY heavy hands, cracking shot and thank god it didn't hit flush, would have been a hatton esque situation if he had been caught flush.

Macho man Khan shows his head again. Its the reason I dislike him strongly, he's become so arrogant and seems to think he's entitled to the pound for pound king and saying mayweather is slowing and he could take him, it seems it takes a defeat like this to bring him back down to earth, just like Prescott.

Sorry to the Khan fans, I don't like the guy and its never nice to see someone stumbling around the ring. Though Baliss was superb tonight, very lucky not to be stopped first time round, gave him all the time and made the right call.

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:14 pm

Yeah I agree. Khans sense of entitlement in boxing is second to none. He feels he is "special" and he is not that good in all honesty. Thats just my opinion .

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Post by BoxingFan88 Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:26 pm

So deflated today, you could see the power difference and Garcia was happy to take Khans 3-4 shots and then land his own bomb. He was right that timing beats speed. I would think Marquez and Mayweather would have done the exact same thing.

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Post by BoxingFan88 Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:27 pm

Didn't watch the after fight interview, but I bet Angel Garcia made a fool of himself again.

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Post by hampo17 Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:29 pm

To be fair he was ok after the fight. Just said that Khan fought exactly how he expected and he knew that once his son landed it wouldn't last long.

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Post by BoxingFan88 Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:31 pm

I can't believe the power Garcia has, he looked very heavy handed. Khans plan to trade after getting blasted, was an absolutely ridiculous strategy.

I was worried after the first punch Garcia landed, Khan wasn't able to put a dent in him, despite Jim Watt's crowing.


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Post by Liam Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:31 pm

Yeh his Father was actually fine post fight, spoke allot of sense.

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Post by Liam Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:32 pm

BoxingFan88 wrote:I can't believe the power Garcia has, he looked very heavy handed. Khans plan to trade after getting blasted, was an absolutely ridiculous strategy.

I was surprised as well just how hard he hits, very heavy handed. Like I said if that left hook had landed clean then Khan would still be on the floor.

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Post by BoxingFan88 Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:39 pm

Yeah, the scary thing was in comparison, Khan had absolutely no power at all, how did Khan take shots from Maidana??

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:40 pm

martyr wrote:
BoxingFan88 wrote:I can't believe the power Garcia has, he looked very heavy handed. Khans plan to trade after getting blasted, was an absolutely ridiculous strategy.

I was surprised as well just how hard he hits, very heavy handed. Like I said if that left hook had landed clean then Khan would still be on the floor.

So you guys think Garcia is on PEDS yeah

Khan looses and you can't explain it yeah.

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Post by Liam Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:45 pm

Put's it into prospective, mind you he almost went during the Maidana fight, the legs did the funny wobble and they resurfaced once again.

Khan has become ridiculously arrogant, calling himself 'King' Khan yet hasn't done anything of note, basically calling Mayweather out, making excuses about Peterson.
He's been found out again, he hasn't got a chin. If you haven't got a chine in boxing, your going to struggle obviously.

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Post by hampo17 Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:46 pm

Who's said anything close to that?

Maybe it was the 6th toe that gives him the power.

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Post by BoxingFan88 Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:46 pm

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:
martyr wrote:
BoxingFan88 wrote:I can't believe the power Garcia has, he looked very heavy handed. Khans plan to trade after getting blasted, was an absolutely ridiculous strategy.

I was surprised as well just how hard he hits, very heavy handed. Like I said if that left hook had landed clean then Khan would still be on the floor.

So you guys think Garcia is on PEDS yeah

Khan looses and you can't explain it yeah.

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What the hell are you on about? I already said I underestimated him.

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Post by Liam Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:47 pm

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:
martyr wrote:
BoxingFan88 wrote:I can't believe the power Garcia has, he looked very heavy handed. Khans plan to trade after getting blasted, was an absolutely ridiculous strategy.

I was surprised as well just how hard he hits, very heavy handed. Like I said if that left hook had landed clean then Khan would still be on the floor.

So you guys think Garcia is on PEDS yeah

Khan looses and you can't explain it yeah.

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What you on about? I didn't know much about Garcia so I wasn't expecting him to hit so hard that's all. He's clearly a heavy puncher, no illegality about it stop jumping to conclusions, I can't stand Khan.

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Post by Liam Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:48 pm

Boxingfan,

Where on earth did we mention anything illegal, I think both of us were just surprised as to how hard the guy can hit, unbelievable.

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Post by BoxingFan88 Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:48 pm

Puts into perspective how good Khan is, Garcia struggled with a faded Morales and then he blasted out Khan. Either Khan isn't that good or Garcia raises his game for the big occasions.

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Post by BoxingFan88 Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:49 pm

martyr wrote:Boxingfan,

Where on earth did we mention anything illegal, I think both of us were just surprised as to how hard the guy can hit, unbelievable.

Agreed, we underestimated his punching power completely.

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Post by Liam Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:50 pm

I don't think and have never thought Khan was that good. He thinks he's better than he is, and showed once again that against top level guys he can't hack it. I still don't think Garcia is anywhere near the top top level fighters of this world, but his punching power and the fact he is only 24 means there is plenty of time to mature and improve his game, very bright future, unlike Khan.

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Post by Rowley Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:54 pm

BF, think the only difference is Morales can take a punch and Khan can't. People can talk change of trainers, tactics or whatever for Khan but he is always going to have that accident waiting to happen thing around him because he just does not have a chin, a new trainer may improve his defence but he is probably too old to become water tight defensively. Fair play to Garcia though, when the chance come he was all over Khan and deserved the win, as I thought Khan was fortunate to be allowed to continue in the third.

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Post by BoxingFan88 Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:00 pm

rowley wrote:BF, think the only difference is Morales can take a punch and Khan can't. People can talk change of trainers, tactics or whatever for Khan but he is always going to have that accident waiting to happen thing around him because he just does not have a chin, a new trainer may improve his defence but he is probably too old to become water tight defensively. Fair play to Garcia though, when the chance come he was all over Khan and deserved the win, as I thought Khan was fortunate to be allowed to continue in the third.

Good point, although I thought Morales was out boxing Garcia a lot of the time as well.

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Post by ShahenshahG Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:17 pm

Sometimes I wonder how he made it this far with such a lack of guile. Think it will be very tough to come back from this and he will probably be like Vargas or Judah - not quite there.

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Post by Duty281 Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:19 pm

Khan was doing well for 2 rounds and 150 seconds but then whack! Garcia has huge power that I, many others and probably Khan himself underestimated. Khan will probably move up to WW now, but a fight with Mayweather? No way.

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Post by Rodney Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:31 pm

azania wrote:Retire!

Are you for real ? The guy is only 25 year old, youd have boxing done away with, if you wanted to retire a fighter after every defeat.

As Jeff mentioned, unfortunately no trainer is going to change Khan's chin, his blessed with ability and speed but his chin looks like china im afraid.

Khan seems to think his some macho fighter aka Manny Pacquaio, I watched the behind the ropes programme on Weds, with Amir sparring and I was concerned then the amount of hard clean shots he was taking.

I'm not sure what he takes from this. because he isnt blessed with power and soon as he sits on his punches his open to be cracked and taken out, still some money and big fights out there for him, however confidence must be an all time low.

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:33 pm

Are you for real ? The guy is only 25 year old, youd have boxing done away with, if you wanted to retire a fighter after every defeat.
he's a drama queen lmao.
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Post by hampo17 Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:35 pm

Khan has to question whether he can really be the best he can be under Roach. He's needs to go to Steward in my opinion, the guy teaches the best jab in the business and it is something khan is drastically lacking.

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Post by Rodney Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:40 pm

hampo171 wrote:Khan has to question whether he can really be the best he can be under Roach. He's needs to go to Steward in my opinion, the guy teaches the best jab in the business and it is something khan is drastically lacking.

Possibly hampo, but what happens when someone gets past that jab, he has no inside game whatsoever and thats his main problem for me, thats why we see the pushing.

Roach was the best thing sliced bread no so long back, even if he had Blackburn, Arcel, Futch and Dundee in camp, his chin doesnt seem to pass the test, meaning any fighter who goes in with him has a chance.

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