Apprentice Task 2 - Everton Wonderkids

by Fernando Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:49 pm

First topic message reminder :

Youth scouting

You are the scouting team for Everton and the Ginger Messiah has asked you to identify some up and coming players that may have slipped under the radar of the bigger clubs. He has asked that you provide a report which shortlists 6 players you would recommend to Everton, and then a recommendation of which 3 the club should buy. £15m has been set aside for these purchases.

Moyes would like to point out that Everton are not a rich club who can get £15m easily, so good value players who could quickly challenge for the first team would be looked upon favourably, especially those that could quickly solve some of Everton’s main problem areas.

Please submit your report by 3pm on Friday 20th July

by nadeem2099 Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:54 pm

Fernando wrote:So we're going for

Hernandez 4.4
Hoilett 7.9m
Clyne 1.8m - Ive gone with him due being over budget if went for Naughton
Total 14.1

So im assuming we get to split the remaining 900k between ourselves right? I'm gonna treat myself to a nice holiday to Spain with my share of the money Yahoo

by sodhat Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:28 am

So we have

Hernandez
Rhodes
Hoilett
Ocampos
Clyne
Naughton

....as our six recommendations. I guess we should all be allocated one or two to write about why they are recommended, and then the final report will suggest the ones we choose?

One thing to note is that Clyne just moved to Southampton I believe - that may mean we have to find another target because it's unrealistic he'll be on the move again!

by FIFA Diva Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:38 am

Morning

Agree with Sodhat think we need to find another RB unless we go with Naughton as our RB.

by **Afro** Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:58 am

I feel I need to add this to both teams...

For me the key to this task is the slipped under the radar of bigger clubs. Everton are not the kind of club to be able to compete with the top clubs, so would be looking for less well known players.

Pushing for the first team quickly to me means not in 5 years time, but in 1 or 2 years. At Everton for example, a CM is going to need to be a lot better to push for first team that a RB would need to be as the CM is a lot stronger.

Ultimately, my interpretation is improving the first team in 2 years time and not very well known at all so that Everton are likely to be able to compete

by Fernando Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:50 am

If we need a new RB can i suggest Romario * - 225k (internacional)

only 17 and is top class

by Fernando Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:54 am

alternatively we could go for http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/ricardo-van-rhijn/profil/spieler_124883.html

generally if your in the Ajax academy your pretty good

by sodhat Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:47 pm

In light of Afro's comment, I assume he is saying it's all wrong Laugh

So I've been having a look this afternoon and I have a few more:

Alexandre Lacazette (Lyon) - £5.3m
Mostly a winger on either side but can play in a strikers role.

Luis Muriel (Udinese) - £7m
Out and out striker who scored 7 goals on loan at Lecce last season. Capped once by Columbia.

Loic Nego (Roma) - £225k
Signed after impressing at right back for Nantes but yet to make a breakthrough into the squad. Played for France up to the U-20 level and very cheap!

by Fernando Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:52 pm

yeah we need to research Laugh

by FIFA Diva Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:53 pm

We have till tomorrow?

by Fernando Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:54 pm

What about someone like Adam Matthews @ RB? and yes i believe so Viva

by sodhat Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:55 pm

Yes Viva

Kyle Naugton still stands for me - I don't see big clubs queueing up for him so Everton have a shout

by sodhat Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:57 pm

Thomas Ince - Winger (£650k)

Been impressing at Blackpool this year and I think he looks a very good player. Had played at Liverpool but that shouldn't be an issue.

by FIFA Diva Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:57 pm

I'd take Naughton he is good enough to challenge for the first team place at Everton like Afro wanted, we know he is proven and the price ain't too bad.

by Fernando Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:00 pm

right so we're go with Naughton @ rb so that's 3.5m

by sodhat Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:02 pm

Lazar Markovic (SS/AM) £4.4M

Currently at Partizan but capped by the Serbia national side at 18, and won a nomination to the Serbian league team of the year last year. Reckon he could be worth a gamble and could work alongside Jelavic.

by Fernando Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:02 pm

we can always pinch Jordan Lukaku (romelu's Younger Brother) he's suppose to be the better one of the two plays on the wing and is 525k

by sodhat Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:04 pm

We need 2 of each position don't we? I guess we'll have to re-vote which two

by Fernando Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:07 pm

RB

Naughton 3.5m
Sime Vrsaljko 4.8m
Davide Faraoni 3.5m
Mario Gaspar 2.6m

Wingers
Jordan Lukaku - 525k
Thomas Ince - 650k
Matt Phillips - 2.2m

AM/Striker
Lazar Markovic 4.4

by Fernando Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:11 pm

i still think Abel Hernandez would be a good choice tbh

by sodhat Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:15 pm

I think he would - but I also think he may be seen as having 'bigger fish to fry' in that he may be stalked by a top club that would blow Everton out of the water.

by Fernando Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:16 pm

He was interested by Arsenal Spurs but that was 2 years ago gone quiet since then

by sodhat Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:17 pm

Maybe he would be ok then...

I like him, he's a very good player.

by Fernando Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:22 pm

we may have to scrap that apparently he's signed a new 4 year deal a few months back

by Fernando Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:24 pm

What about John Guidetti all he's been linked to is Swansea/Sunderland type clubs ?

by sodhat Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:26 pm

He'd be a good signing too - but is he likely to be similar to Jelavic?

The idea behind Markovic was that he was a more withdraw forward to support Jelavic rather than be making the same runs as him.

(P.S. How are the WWA scores looking?)

by Fernando Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:29 pm

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and Luc Castaignos could be an option if we're looking for a playmaker, he's stuck in the reserves/bench at Inter

by sodhat Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:52 pm

Castaignos
Markovic
Hernandez
Rhodes

...seem to be the assumed striking options at the mo then.

by FIFA Diva Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:06 pm

I'd go for Rhodes as striker.

by Fernando Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:19 pm

Rhodes/Naughton/?? are our 1st choices need to make our mind up over the AM/ST

by sodhat Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:02 am

Well personally speaking I like Thomas Ince.

I don't think we have to spend all the cash so it's saving a bit of money for them too!

Let me know what I need to do today Nando, and we'll get this handed in.

by Fernando Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:09 am

We're go with Ince/Naughton/Rhodes as our chosen 3

Obviously we need 6 so maybe list reasons why we haven't gone for people like Hernandez/Hoilett/Cylne

by sodhat Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:16 am

Ok, I'll give a run down of the three we aren't going for and post it here mate. Guess the rest can be done by your good self or Viva/Nads?

by Fernando Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:17 am

i suspect Viva will be busy with work experience boy and not a clue about Nadeem

by sodhat Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:19 am

That poor work experience boy may never be able to walk properly again...

by sodhat Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:36 am

Spoiler:

There you go nandonator.

One final opinion I'd like to get across though - it's not that Rhodes is a bad buy or we shouldn't go for him, but I do think in context of the task he wouldn't be pushing beyond Jelavic to start because they are similar goal-getting types. I'd still prefer a deeper lying player, and considering Everton seem to favour a 4-5-1 I think they'd have more chance getting in the side.

by Fernando Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:41 am

Should we go after someone else then?

by sodhat Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:42 am

Well it's up to everyone else too, but that's my own personal opinion.

by Fernando Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:44 am

well we're the only 2 here but im happy to go for a another guy

Ince is 650k - Naughton 3.5m = 4.15m leaves 10.85 to buy an AM

by Fernando Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:52 am

What about someone like http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/giuliano/profil/spieler_54375.html

one of the brazillian wonderkids currently in the national side but plays for dnipro and relatively cheap considering

by sodhat Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:58 am

Looks good

I also like:

Giannis Fetfatzidis
Lazar Markovic
Omar El Kaddouri
Nicolas Lodeiro

by Fernando Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:00 am

The only one i know there is Lodeiro and he's not overly brilliant , You'd need to fill me in on the rest

by sodhat Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:10 am

www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/fetfatzidis/profil/spieler_128931.html

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazar_Marković

www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/omar-el-kaddouri/.../spieler_73097.html

I think maybe El Kaddouri is my favoured choice of these. He's versatile, physically a good match for the prem and we already have a Belgian!

by Fernando Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:13 am

We're go with him then Sodhat thumbsup

Ill write about Naughton , You write about El Kaddouri and who ever is done 1st can do now Ince

by sodhat Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:18 am

I'll be done by lunch mate, and I'll post here

by FIFA Diva Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:20 am

I can do Ince.

by Fernando Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:23 am

Your welcome to do so Viva

by Fernando Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:29 am

Spoiler:

by FIFA Diva Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:18 am

Spoiler:

by Fernando Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:20 am

Where did you get all that data from Viva?

by FIFA Diva Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:26 am

I got that from ESPN.

Go on google and type the name of the player you're looking for with "ESPN stats" and it normally is the first link.

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