Is McDowell the next multiple major winner?
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Is McDowell the next multiple major winner?
Been impressed with his attitude on the course of late, and of the euro's, other than mcilroy perhaps, i have a feeling he seems best equipped to deal with the pressure coming down the stretch. How far could he go though - i think he's capable of equaling harrington with 3 - especially if he can pull it out of the bag tomorrow.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
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Re: Is McDowell the next multiple major winner?
Definitely, perhaps not #2 this week but he's a feel player who'll finesse his way to US Opens and Open Championships.
Would be astonished if he ever won The Masters.
Would be astonished if he ever won The Masters.
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Re: Is McDowell the next multiple major winner?
personally I hope not
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Can't really work out if I like him or loathe him, his mid atlantic accent is more than a little annoying. But he does play well on the big stage and isn't affraid to put himself in position unlike Lee and Luke.
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I like him but i dont warm to him. By the way Lee does put himself in the position. he just hasnt finished it off- Mac has finished it off once
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But i am backing scott or zach fro this- so zach could actually be the next multiple winner- he is under the radar
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I disagree that Lee puts himself in position, that would mean being in with a chance with 3 or 4 holes to go, he plays himself out of it by then and imo will never win a major
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ermm not sure 3 or 4 holes to go is the benchmark for putting yourself in postion- but even so lee has been there or there abouts more than gmac with a few holes to go. gmac has won one though so thats the important stat
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Mysti there is no benchmark other than having your name on one of the trophies, and imo Westy never will and I also don't buy into people deserving one etc the only deserving winners are the ones with lowest score after 72holes. Hopefully this week that'll be Scott or McDowell
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right.. how does that argue your point that mcdowel has been in position more than westy
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Simple Mysti as per my previous post McDowell has his name on one Westwood does not! That is the benchmark!
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fader i dont understand what your arguing dude..
I mentioned that gmac has won one in my post and that that is the important fact- your confusing me mate- i thought you were arguing that macdowel has been in position more than westy- i am saying westy has- if you cant remember the times westy has been there or there abouts final day - just look at his record, or look back over the last 3 years of majors
I mentioned that gmac has won one in my post and that that is the important fact- your confusing me mate- i thought you were arguing that macdowel has been in position more than westy- i am saying westy has- if you cant remember the times westy has been there or there abouts final day - just look at his record, or look back over the last 3 years of majors
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There are a few contenders for next multiple major winner, Gmac, Bubba, Ooosthy, Kaymer if he gets his act together, Rory obviously, although I'm not sure if the hype around him is justified.
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rory is a golfer that has the potential to blitz a field- not many do have that in the locker
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Mysti imo he has been in position more than Westwood! When was westwood in position down the stretch e.g coming down last few holes say last 3or4 needing to hold it together to close it out! As far as my can tell he has blown it before that stage. Gmac hasn't even if its only been on 1 occaision, that once was enough for GMac and that's the sign of a true champ.
I don't buy into people that end careers without big titles as being deserved etc, the best will win when it matters and those with the character to close out will. Imo Westwood lacks it when it matters. His putting can be blamed all he likes or other factors but end of day its a mentality you have to have. The most likely English major champ for me is Rose he seems to be stepping up mentally in bigger events more each year, he needs do it in a major now but he has the game for a PGA or a US Open imo.
I don't buy into people that end careers without big titles as being deserved etc, the best will win when it matters and those with the character to close out will. Imo Westwood lacks it when it matters. His putting can be blamed all he likes or other factors but end of day its a mentality you have to have. The most likely English major champ for me is Rose he seems to be stepping up mentally in bigger events more each year, he needs do it in a major now but he has the game for a PGA or a US Open imo.
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fader when you were talking about in postion to win- most will look at final day or last 9 holes- and westy has had a chance at that point on about 5 plus occasions.. even still he has been in with a chance last few on about 3 occasions, mac has been in that situation twice
Not sure the rest of what you are arguing has anything to do with the above either..
Not sure the rest of what you are arguing has anything to do with the above either..
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incontinentia wrote:There are a few contenders for next multiple major winner, Gmac, Bubba, Ooosthy, Kaymer if he gets his act together, Rory obviously, although I'm not sure if the hype around him is justified.
I think your right about Oosty and Gmac. They step it up when the big events come and not much in their repsective games to let them down.
Bubba has potential for more green jackets as Ausgusta is ideal for him but can't see him winning either Opens, maybe a PGA.
Kaymer seems to be at odds with himself and what his game should be, since he started swing changes and no idea why he did that. Hopefully he can right the ship and deliver another major.
I agree about the hype about Rory, yes can blitz a field but can be equally as bad. Can't ever see him winning the Open.
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Mysti I'm arguing about when it matters, start of the final day is all well and good but the fact of matter is time it gets to the crucial point westwood has played himself out of it.
Stats can show he's been there more than Mac, they show monty as even better but end of day the only thing that matters is the winner! 2nd place is first loser in big events and imo Westy doesn't have it in him to dig deep enough and take one.
Other than that were probably in agreement about the rest
Stats can show he's been there more than Mac, they show monty as even better but end of day the only thing that matters is the winner! 2nd place is first loser in big events and imo Westy doesn't have it in him to dig deep enough and take one.
Other than that were probably in agreement about the rest
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anyone can win an open- rory is very young, he has more chance in winning one that most- because he is a player who has acheived a level that is way above mosts peak at a very early stage in his carrer- next time the opens is at St andrews- watch out for him
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Fader wrote:Mysti I'm arguing about when it matters, start of the final day is all well and good but the fact of matter is time it gets to the crucial point westwood has played himself out of it.
Stats can show he's been there more than Mac, they show monty as even better but end of day the only thing that matters is the winner! 2nd place is first loser in big events and imo Westy doesn't have it in him to dig deep enough and take one.
Other than that were probably in agreement about the rest
fader - the simple fact is westy has put himself in a position toi win a major on many occasions- he hasnt acheived it though- i am not gonna argue any more on this- I watch every major religiously, stats are immaterial to me. But for soemone who may not have seen them its a good starting point. the only important fact is the win , gmac has one- westy has none
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Of course he can mysti, so can anyone. Imo I don't think he will, simply my opinion not fact its just what I think.
No doubt he has the potential to be a great of the game with his talent but I think there'll be others who win plenty more than him.
No doubt he has the potential to be a great of the game with his talent but I think there'll be others who win plenty more than him.
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Its all about potential at the moment fader- the fact is he has closed out allready and he is young.. so he is the fav for 3 or more in my mind- at present the favs are gmac and zach for 2- because both have a chance today
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I agree Mysti and I said that he has the potential to be a great of the game. It was and is just my opinion others will win more than him.
Also with all his potential and Tiger comparisons 3 majors would be underachievement in many peoples eyes. I would prefer McDowell to end his career with more majors than Rory if I'm honest though.
Also with all his potential and Tiger comparisons 3 majors would be underachievement in many peoples eyes. I would prefer McDowell to end his career with more majors than Rory if I'm honest though.
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Fader the reality is is that some one else will win more- but thats just simple odds- there are 200 other golfers out there so by that rationale mcilroy is not the fav- but when we argue one player against mcilroy he is the fav because he has the most potential and 1 major at an early age.
Its easy to say 'others' will win more- its much harder to say which individulas will, it could be anyone
Its easy to say 'others' will win more- its much harder to say which individulas will, it could be anyone
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Don't really see the point in arguing this at all considering as I said its merely my opinion not a fact!
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fader i am not arguing it-Its surely everyones opinion when you think about it logically. If you want to argue against mcilroy- then mention a player that will win more.. You are arguing the pack v mcilroy.. It puts you in a good position. Stick your neck out, go for an individual
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personally if i was gonna go for a player from here on to win more majors than rory (that either has one or none- i would possibly go for tiger if its based on anyone from this point on).
I would go for H english, thats really sticking my neck out
I would go for H english, thats really sticking my neck out
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Ok, I'll go with Simpson, McDowell, English and Cantlay all to take more than Rory.
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All 4 ! thats some going dude, we will know in 25 years time
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McIlroy has the talent to win more than Harrington anyway. He needs to dump the danish squeeze though. Both seemed to have gone to pot since they started going out.
As for GMac, don't see him winning today but he seems to have been playing well recently and has the temperament and bottle when needed to finish a tournament out. Could see him winning another one or two. Would be another great Irish success at the Open if he pulls it out of the bag today!
As for GMac, don't see him winning today but he seems to have been playing well recently and has the temperament and bottle when needed to finish a tournament out. Could see him winning another one or two. Would be another great Irish success at the Open if he pulls it out of the bag today!
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Its all about getting that 1 major!! as we in england know. Success breeds success. I want a hamilton f1 win, gmac open win, wiggins tdf win and a fight back from england in the cricket today!
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Is McDowell the next multiple major winner?
Obviously he is - he's my reserve in the fantasy golf!
Always good to see your reserve doing well.
Obviously he is - he's my reserve in the fantasy golf!
Always good to see your reserve doing well.
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He's wearing a cardigan(!) - could today be his day again?
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Whtly does mcdowell call himself gmac?
Surely it should be gmc? He's a Mc, not a Mac.
Surely it should be gmc? He's a Mc, not a Mac.
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Not today anyway
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Would that be Gmc , pronounced gimick super?
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Looks like he's blown it this time. Bit like Casey when he was chasing oosty.
barragan- Posts : 2297
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well the winner this time hasnt aided the debate!! no new winner and no single winner turning into a multiple- just applying justice to the legend of E ells and getting him upto 4!
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How bad was his hybrid left on the par 5..... Wow.
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I wonder if Els would have holed the putt on 18 if it was the last putt of the day? Maybe the fact that he thought it wouldn't be enough anyway helped him?
Real shame for Scott, really wanted him to win. I hope he does a McIlroy. Still at least it wasn't McDowell .
Real shame for Scott, really wanted him to win. I hope he does a McIlroy. Still at least it wasn't McDowell .
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Hopefully Woods' 'injury' is long term, although I think realistically it was a ruse to cover up how bad he is with the driver.
A golfer being that inept off the tee is as bad as the England football team not being able to pass it to one another.
His skills seem to be receding with his hairline.
A golfer being that inept off the tee is as bad as the England football team not being able to pass it to one another.
His skills seem to be receding with his hairline.
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having a good day SR?
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Gmac hits many fairways, which usually is a good thing in majors...
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Err what?pedro wrote:Gmac hits many fairways, which usually is a good thing in majors...
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so is putting ,iron play, chipping, course managemnet and bunker play an all
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Next multi-major winner? Rory most likely, Gmac and Watson a close second IMO.
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Rory?
You asked what someone based their choice of Donald as a winner of the net major as and deemed it pretty questionable, can't see any different for McIlroy right now. Just because he's won one doesn't mean anything. You might as well have Yang, Curtis, Bradley, Simpson , Watson etc on that criteria.
Him and Wozniaki need to ditch each other for the good of their careers and McIlroy needs to get back to Europe and Chandler.
You asked what someone based their choice of Donald as a winner of the net major as and deemed it pretty questionable, can't see any different for McIlroy right now. Just because he's won one doesn't mean anything. You might as well have Yang, Curtis, Bradley, Simpson , Watson etc on that criteria.
Him and Wozniaki need to ditch each other for the good of their careers and McIlroy needs to get back to Europe and Chandler.
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Based on Rory's form and my dislike of all his hype I cannot see him bagging multiple anythings except for MC's anytime soon.
I think Simspon is much more likely to be the next multiple winner, he seems to get himself into good position to win more often than not and is far more consistent. Rory is to much like Woods no idea who is going to turn up the one that can blitz a field in easy conditions or the one that fades with moan and whimper when it's slightly breezy.
I think Simspon is much more likely to be the next multiple winner, he seems to get himself into good position to win more often than not and is far more consistent. Rory is to much like Woods no idea who is going to turn up the one that can blitz a field in easy conditions or the one that fades with moan and whimper when it's slightly breezy.
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The punishment for missing fairways is much harder at majors, in particular US and British Opens, compared to regular tournaments. Typically we have narrower fairways and higher roughs.JPX wrote:Err what?pedro wrote:Gmac hits many fairways, which usually is a good thing in majors...
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The way things are shaping up, the next multiple major winner (from today) looks like being Tiger Woods.
If you're really only referring to new blood then I'd have to go with McIlroy. He's good enough and more importantly young enough to be hitting his stride as Woods retires and leaves the door open again.
If you're really only referring to new blood then I'd have to go with McIlroy. He's good enough and more importantly young enough to be hitting his stride as Woods retires and leaves the door open again.
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