Re: dullest interviewee?

by **88Chris05** Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:48 pm

First topic message reminder :

The best of the impressive current crop of British Super-Bantams he may be (in my eyes anyway, before Kev rams Galahad down my throat!), but Scott Quigg is an absolutely horrendous interviewee. Doesn't seem comfortable, monosyllabic, repeats a load of clichés and the like. I remember he was in the Sky studio a while back and it seemed as if he was struggling to string a sentence together.

Although he was telegenic in many ways, with his looks, winning smile and exciting skill set, I tended to find a lot of Oscar's interviews pretty dull. He seemed to 'play it safe' to the extreme, although I suppose his astronomical sponsorship deals and the media focus on him Stateside gave him good reason to ruffle as few feathers as possible.

by **Union Cane** Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:44 pm

Tense & Aspect in African American Vernacular English wrote:
As phase auxiliary verbs, been and done must occur as the first auxiliary; when they occur as the second, they carry additional aspects:

He been done work means "he finished work a long time ago".

He done been work means "until recently, he worked over a long period of time".

This latter example highlights one of the most distinguishing features of African American Vernacular English, which is the use of be to indicate that performance of the verb is of a habitual nature. In Southern American English, this can only be expressed unambiguously by using adverbs such as usually.

This aspect-marking form of been or bin is stressed and semantically distinct from the unstressed form: She bin running ('She has been running for a long time') and She been running ('She has been running'). This aspect has been given several names, including perfect phase, remote past, and remote phase (this article uses the third). As shown above, been places action in the distant past. However, when been is used with stative verbs or gerund forms, been shows that the action began in the distant past and that it is continuing now. Rickford (1999) suggests that a better translation when used with stative verbs is "for a long time". For instance, in response to "I like your new dress", one might hear "Oh, I been had this dress", meaning that the speaker has had the dress for a long time and that it isn't new.

To see the difference between the simple past and the gerund when used with been, consider the following expressions:

I been bought her clothes means "I bought her clothes a long time ago".

I been buyin' her clothes means "I've been buying her clothes for a long time".

That clears that up then.

by azania Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:48 pm

Do working class yorkshire people speak correctly?

English evolved from Latin. Why not go back to that?

by **Union Cane** Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:50 pm

azania wrote:English evolved from Latin.

No it didn't.

laughing

by Rowley Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:55 pm

azania wrote:Do working class yorkshire people speak correctly?

Of course not, frightful vulgarians the bulk of them.

by Mind the windows Tino. Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:57 pm

rowley wrote:
azania wrote:Do working class yorkshire people speak correctly?

Of course not, frightful vulgarians the bulk of them.

I mis-read it and thought he asked if Yorkshire people work. I nearly fell off my chair.

by Rowley Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:58 pm

Not since Thatcher closed t'pits but that is quite a different story.

by azania Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:00 pm

Well there are some Latin phrases and words in the English language. Get rid of them. You guys sound like George Bush when he said that the French don't have a word for entrepreneur. Or Dan Qualye when he wished he spoke Latin when he went to Latin America.

by **Union Cane** Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:04 pm

Until you came up with the fact that English is evolved from Latin I was backing you up mate, with my extract on the use of be / been in African American Vernacular English (the correct name, as the name Ebonics has unsavoury connotations and is seldom used by linguists).

by trottb Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:08 pm

alma wrote:Not sure what a 'gordie' is either!

Someone who idolises Lewis and Eubank, I think.

by azania Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:30 pm

Brilliant. Ignore the bigger picture and focus on incidentals.

You guys find African Americans speaking in a dialect they created embarassing because it is not correct English. That is the issue.

Whether Latin is the genus of the English language is irrelevant.

Ebonics is the name most African Americans choose to refer to it as. AA Vernacular English is the term certain people who have an academic interest choose to call it.

by **Union Cane** Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:32 pm

azania wrote:Whether Latin is the genus of the English language is irrelevant.

Why bring it up then?

by **Union Cane** Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:33 pm

azania wrote:Ebonics is the name most African Americans choose to refer to it as. AA Vernacular English is the term certain people who have an academic interest choose to call it.

Yes, that is what I said wasn't it?

picard

by Mind the windows Tino. Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:34 pm

Union Cane wrote:
azania wrote:Whether Latin is the genus of the English language is irrelevant.

Why bring it up then?

Nice use of the word 'genus' though. Oxy would be proud.

by Rowley Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:37 pm

azania wrote:

You guys find African Americans speaking in a dialect they created embarassing because it is not correct English. That is the issue.

In my defence I find anyone who has English as their first language speaking it incorrectly embarassing. I am an equal opportunities snob.

by azania Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:40 pm

Maybe if you spoke in Ebonics. After all its the dialect I hear most at home anyway.

by **Union Cane** Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:44 pm

You live in America?

by azania Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:46 pm

No. Mrs Az is from Atlanta. The home of ebonics.

by EdWoodjr Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:38 am

Just read in Private Eye magazine a BoxNation quote from Johnny Nelson :
' 50% of boxing is 90% mental.'

Eh ?

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