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Cardiff Blues

In

Jason Tovey (Newport Gwent Dragons)- Confirmed
Lou Reed (Scarlets) -Confirmed
Robin Copeland (Rotherham Titans)- Confirmed
Benoit Bourrust (Perpignan)- Confirmed
Campese Ma'afu (West Habour)-Confirmed
Andy Kyriacou (Ulster) -Confirmed
Phil Davies DOR (Worcester)- Confirmed
Gerwyn Price (Cross Keys) - Rumour
Rob Lewis (London Welsh)-confirmed





Out

Gethin Jenkins (Toulon) -Confirmed
Martyn Williams -Retiring - Confirmed
Rhys Thomas (Wasps)- Confirmed
Dan Parks (Connacht) Confirmed
Casey Laulala (Munster)- Confirmed
Deiniol Jones -Retiring -Confirmed
Paul Tito- Released - confirmed
Manna Molitika -Retiring- Confirmed
Ben Blair (Agen)- Confirmed
John Yapp (Edinburgh) Confirmed
Richie Rees (Edinburgh)-Confirmed
Ryan Tyrell (Melbourne Rebels)-Confirmed
Xavier Rush (Retiring/Defence Coach) - Confirmed


Scarlet's

In


Lewis Rawlins (Cross Keys) - Confirmed
Barry Davies ( Ospreys) - Rumour
Jason Eaton ( Hurricanes)- Rumour
Adam Byrnes ( Melbourne Rebels) -Rumour
Manuel Carizza (Biarittz)- Rumour
Kristian Phillips (Ospreys) - Confirmed
Davit Zirakashvili (Clermont Auvergne)- Rumour
Danny Wilson (Newport Dragons-forwards coach)- Confirmed
Daniel Carpo (RC Timisoara, Romania) - Rumour
Joe Tuineau (Montpellier) -Rumour
Cambell Johnstoe (Biarritz)- Rumour
George Earle ( Cheetahs) - Confirmed
Simon Easterby (New DOR) - Confirmed
Richard Kelly (Ospreys) - Confirmed
Jonathan Thomas (Ospreys) - Rumour
Gavin Henson (Unattached) - Rumour
Tomas Vallejos Cinalli (Harlequins) - Confirmed
Pat ciliers (Lions) - Rumour
Gareth Owen (Ospreys) - Confirmed
Jacobie Adriaanse (Kings) - Confirmed
Johan "Joe" Snyman (Kings) - Confirmed
Jake Ball (Western Force) - Confirmed

Out

Ben Morgan (Gloucester)- Confirmed
Steven Jones (Wasps)-Confirmed
Dominic Day (Bath) Confirmed
Lou Reed (Cardiff Blues) -Confirmed
Dan Evans ( Dragons) - confirmed
Rhys Thomas Retiring- Confirmed
Iestyn Thomas (Retiring/Dragons forwards coach) - Confirmed
Simon Gardiner- (Rotherham Titan) - Confirmed
Sean Lamont (Glasgow Warriors) -Confirmed
Damien Welch (Exeter Chiefs)- Confirmed
Vernon Cooper (Forwards Coach) - Confirmed
Garin Jenkins (scrummaging Coach) - Confirmed
Nigel Davies (Gloucester -DOR) - Confirmed
Andy Fenby (Newcastle) - Rumour (signed new contract)
Matt Gibert - (Mogliano,Italy) - Confirmed
Liam Davies - Released - Confirmed
Mark Jones (Gloucester - Skills Coach)- Rumour
Viliame Iongi (Released/Ospreys) - Rumour
Rupert Moon (RG1404) - Confirmed


Newport Gwent Dragons

In

Dan Evan (Scarlets) -Confirmed
Peter Grant (stormers) - Rumour
Tom Prydie (Ospreys)- Confirmed
Iestyn Thomas (forwards coach/scarlets) - Confirmed
Ian Nimmo (Cornish Pirates) -Confirmed
Tim Ryan (Cavalieri Prato) - Confirmed
Rhys Downes (Pontypridd) - Confirmed
Josh Tyler (UWIC) - Confirmed
Stewart Maguire (Connacht) - Rumour
Hywel Stoddart (Newport RFC) - Confirmed
Owen Williams (Llandovery RFC) - Confirmed
Nic Cudd (Llanelli RFC) - Confirmed

Out

Jason Tovey ( Cardiff Blues)-Confirmed
Aled Brew (Biarritz)- Confirmed
Tom Willis (Retired)- Confirmed
Ben Castle (Retired)- Confirmed
Martyn Thomas (Gloucester) -confirmed
Luke Chateris (Perpignan) -Confirmed
Hugh Gustafson- Released- Not confirmed
Rhys Buckley- Released- Confirmed
Nigel Hall- Retired- Confirmed
Hugo Ellis- Released- Confirmed
James Leadbeater- Released- Confirmed
Mathew Jones (Bristol) -Confirmed
Tom Riley- (Cornish Pirates)- Confirmed
Lloyd Burns- Retired- Confirmed
Danny Wilson (Scarlets) - Confirmed
Gavin Thomas- Retired - Confirmed
Scott Morgan -Released - Confirmed
Trystan Davies (Carmarthen Quins) - Confirmed
Niall Martin (Ulster Academy) - Confirmed


Ospreys

In

Steve Tandy (Bridgend RFC)
Sam Lewis (Swansea RFC)
Sam Davies (Swansea RFC)
Shaun Connor ( Dragons - Ospreys Academy Coach)
Jonathan Spratt ( London Irish) - Confirmed


Out

Tommy Bowe (Ulster)- Confirmed
Sean Holley (Released)
Scott Johnson (SRFU)
James Goode (Newcastle Falcons)-Confirmed
Shane Williams (Mitsubishi Dynoboars )-Confimed
Huw Bennett (Lyon) -Confirmed
Nikki Walker (Worcester Warriors) -Confirmed
Dan Bigger (Racing Metro) -Rumour
Cai Griffiths (London Irish) -Confirmed
Barry Davies released - Confirmed
Chauncey O'Toole- Releases - Confirmed
Sonny Parker- (London Welsh) -Confirmed
Mefin Davies- Retiring- Not Confirmed
Tom Prydie (Dragons)- Confirmed
Will Taylor (Wasps)- Confirmed
Kristian Phillips (Scarlets) -Confirmeed
Rory Pitman (South Wales Scorpions)-Confirmed
Paul James (Bath) - Confirmed
Gareth Owen - Released - Confirmed
Stefan Watermeyer- Released - Confirmed
Craig Cross- Released - Confirmed
Dai Flanagan - Released - Confirmed


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Post by BuzzScarlet Thu 16 Aug 2012, 1:43 pm

smirnoff, with regards 2 iongi it seems he is the one that has told the scarlets that he doesn't want to play for them anymore. If that is the case then it is very poor on his part as he never returnd for pre season training. So in my eyes good riddance as we seemed to had signed the only tongan who couldnt tackle!

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Post by ScarletSpiderman Thu 16 Aug 2012, 1:50 pm

BuzzScarlet wrote:smirnoff, with regards 2 iongi it seems he is the one that has told the scarlets that he doesn't want to play for them anymore. If that is the case then it is very poor on his part as he never returnd for pre season training. So in my eyes good riddance as we seemed to had signed the only tongan who couldnt tackle!

You would still expect an official announcement from the Scarlets announcing his departure though. Even if it was "Villiame Iongi has parted company wiht the Scarlets with immediate effect." followed by a brief biog of when he signed, what his games/tries etc. Taking up what 2 paragraphs on the website, surely that ain't too much hard work.
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Post by BuzzScarlet Thu 16 Aug 2012, 1:57 pm

I agree with you on that SS, it would be nice to have some sort of offical confirmation, maybe we will hear more on it if we have a press conference to announce some new signings Very Happy

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Post by ScarletSpiderman Thu 16 Aug 2012, 2:02 pm

Yeah I guess. That said the Scarlets are not exactly renowned for their skills in communication.
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Post by BuzzScarlet Thu 16 Aug 2012, 2:11 pm

ScarletSpiderman wrote:Yeah I guess. That said the Scarlets are not exactly renowned for their skills in communication.

Thats an understatemen! Very Happy

Are u going down for the London Welsh game?

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Post by ScarletSpiderman Thu 16 Aug 2012, 2:25 pm

Yeah, looking forward to it. Doubt we will get to see too many of the new boys, or the internationals for that matter. But it'll be a game, and it feels like this summer has lasted for ever.
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Post by BuzzScarlet Thu 16 Aug 2012, 2:31 pm

SS, your right. its been a long summer, cant wait for the LW game, then roll on a week later for leinster, got my first season ticket for about 15 years! hope this season will be worth it!

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Post by Smirnoffpriest Thu 16 Aug 2012, 2:34 pm

Yup got my first season ticket - a flexi, so will be good (though I am in the posh seats in the North stand!). Can't wait for the Leinster game

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Post by ScarletSpiderman Thu 16 Aug 2012, 2:34 pm

BuzzScarlet wrote:SS, your right. its been a long summer, cant wait for the LW game, then roll on a week later for leinster, got my first season ticket for about 15 years! hope this season will be worth it!

Blood hell thats a bit of a gap between renewing.
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Post by BuzzScarlet Thu 16 Aug 2012, 2:40 pm

lol, yeah, between playing rugby myself, work and meeting the missus i could never commit to going to most of the games to make it worthwhile, now however i've got the time and have just got my 4 year old son his first season tickets, he's scarlet mad at the minute, hopefully it will stop my osprey supporting in-laws getting their claws into him lol! like i said, i hope this season will be worth it.

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Post by ScarletSpiderman Thu 16 Aug 2012, 2:46 pm

Buzz - Well looking at the signings if we can secure better ball at the set peice I think we could be in for an excitting season, but ain't sure if it'l be enough to get our hands on silverware.

Priest - are you down for London Welsh too?
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Post by BuzzScarlet Thu 16 Aug 2012, 2:56 pm

SS- not sure if we will win any silverware but i hope we can win a few of those games in which we have suffered close losses/draws over the last couple of seasons and make the play offs.

Priest, im in the north stand to, where are you sitting? 22, half way etc.


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Post by Smirnoffpriest Thu 16 Aug 2012, 5:13 pm

BuzzScarlet wrote:SS- not sure if we will win any silverware but i hope we can win a few of those games in which we have suffered close losses/draws over the last couple of seasons and make the play offs.

Priest, im in the north stand to, where are you sitting? 22, half way etc.


Off the top of my head I think it's N13 though it may be N14 - I got a flexi season ticket so can sit anywhere, but I generally use going down to the games as an exuse to see my parents as I don't get much of a chance otherwise, what with work, communting, my missus, planning a marrage and doing up the house.

Their sitting in the expensive seats on the halfway line North stand so i'll be sitting by them but if anyone else is there, then let me know

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Post by BuzzScarlet Thu 16 Aug 2012, 9:04 pm

priest, im in the north stand on the half way line, the 1872? tickets? might see u down there thumbsup

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Post by pioden gorllewin Fri 17 Aug 2012, 9:20 am

looks like maama molitika will continue his rugby in italy next season. wish him all the best as he's been a good servant to the blues.

be interesting when these SA players come over to West Wales cause they are currently competing in the Currie Cup. Of the signings we've made this season/alleged to have signed I'd group them as:

Proven Player:

George Earles.

Squad Filler:

Tomas Vallejos

Potential:

Jake Ball
Johan Snyman

Something to prove/Last Chance Saloon:

K Phillips
G Owen

Haven't seen Adriaanse to comment on yet. Ideallly I would have loved if Cilliers and Eaton had signed, but it wasn't to be. Apart from George Earle I think our signings are a bit of an unknown quantity. But it does look (hopefully) we've up graded from last season, and I am heartened by the potential within the new season. Also with the new U20 Welsh boys coming into the reckoning it builds for an exciting season.

Also with Barry Davies back at the Quins he is another experienced player to call upon within the region if needs be.


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Post by ScarletSpiderman Fri 17 Aug 2012, 9:23 am

I am, overall, pretty pleased with what I have seen or the players we have signed, and we seem to have bought in the right areas for once. So all being well we should be able to feild a decent enough side now when the internationals are out, which was one of our problems last season (see the Ulster game) the second string side was good, but just lacked that edge.
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Post by Smirnoffpriest Fri 17 Aug 2012, 2:20 pm

BuzzScarlet wrote:priest, im in the north stand on the half way line, the 1872? tickets? might see u down there thumbsup

Yeah that's right the 1872 club, I couldn't remember the name, that's where I'll mainly be sitting. Yeah keep an eye out for a strapping 6ft4 28 year old with glasses and thinning brown hair! ;p

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Post by Smirnoffpriest Fri 17 Aug 2012, 4:01 pm

ScarletSpiderman wrote:Buzz - Well looking at the signings if we can secure better ball at the set peice I think we could be in for an excitting season, but ain't sure if it'l be enough to get our hands on silverware.

Priest - are you down for London Welsh too?

Sorry forgot to answer you. Don't think I'm going to make any of the friendlies unfortunately

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Post by pioden gorllewin Mon 20 Aug 2012, 8:02 am

Confirmation of welsh qualified aussie lock jake ball signing for scarlets:

http://www.thisissouthwales.co.uk/Scarlets-sign-aussie-ace/story-16732176-detail/story.html
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Post by ScarletSpiderman Mon 20 Aug 2012, 8:58 am

Glad to see it confirmed. Hoepfully we can get the other two (especially Adriaanse) confirmed and publically announced asap
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Post by pioden gorllewin Mon 20 Aug 2012, 10:44 am

Think easters mentioned last week that the two SA players (didn't mention names) were at different stages of the process of recruitment. think one of the signings (i assume snyman) was waiting to be agreed by wru. think adriaanse is still playing in the currie cup with the lions. so probably won't be with us anytime soon. so i imagine we'll go into the season with deacs being our 1st choice TH until reinforcements turn up.

On another issue mentioned earlier in this thread about Ospreys looking to strengthen their back three. but it looks like they've found a possible replacement for shane williams (if you can replace shane) in scrumhalf turned winger tom grabham.

http://www.thisissouthwales.co.uk/Tandy-happy-develop-young-talent-region/story-16734106-detail/story.html

it's great to see all the regions producing these youngsters.
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Post by ScarletSpiderman Mon 20 Aug 2012, 11:19 am

pioden gorllewin wrote:Think easters mentioned last week that the two SA players (didn't mention names) were at different stages of the process of recruitment. think one of the signings (i assume snyman) was waiting to be agreed by wru. think adriaanse is still playing in the currie cup with the lions. so probably won't be with us anytime soon. so i imagine we'll go into the season with deacs being our 1st choice TH until reinforcements turn up.

On another issue mentioned earlier in this thread about Ospreys looking to strengthen their back three. but it looks like they've found a possible replacement for shane williams (if you can replace shane) in scrumhalf turned winger tom grabham.
http://www.thisissouthwales.co.uk/Tandy-happy-develop-young-talent-region/story-16734106-detail/story.html

it's great to see all the regions producing these youngsters.

Manu will do the job just fine, but for depth i was hoping we would be getting Adriaanse sooner rather than later, but hey-ho.

What is it with trying to find futher Shane's by moving scrum halves to the wing? Didn't they do that with Tom Issacs too?
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Post by Smirnoffpriest Mon 20 Aug 2012, 11:26 am

ScarletSpiderman wrote:Glad to see it confirmed. Hoepfully we can get the other two (especially Adriaanse) confirmed and publically announced asap

I still think we're weaker than last year even with the signings, well in the front row definately, and with the locks Earle could be much better than our previous signings, Vallejos won't be with us until late Oct/Dec, and the others are 20 year old youngsters, or bit part players and don't sound better than Reed/Day.

A massive shame we couldn't get Eaton and Cilliers.

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Post by ScarletSpiderman Mon 20 Aug 2012, 11:31 am

Priest - I will wait and see who is better/worse than their forebarer when I see them running out in Scarlets colours, as I remember saying we were stupid to ditch Selley for this King (who the hell wants a 1 cap NZ player who was getting no game time in France), and I remember being over the moon when we signed Kees Meeuws as we needed a prop who could scrummage as Manu was cack (I think we all can say honestly the Meeuws was no-where near as good as Manu, for us).
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Post by Smirnoffpriest Mon 20 Aug 2012, 11:45 am

True, I can't really argue with that, I'm prob just disappointed that we've missed out on the targets we originally wanted.

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Post by pioden gorllewin Mon 20 Aug 2012, 11:55 am

spiderman: we've done the scrumhalf/wing thing ourselves with lee "bach" williams. he was quickly labelled with the "shane" tag too.

i think if we can nail a TH then our pack won't be too bad, although slightly concerned that we no longer have a ball carrying 8 (dai llew or morgans) to get us over the gainline. i was also interested easters picked pugh a 7 and as captain against Worcester . makes me think he will be playing an out and out 7 next season (edwards,pugh,d thomas) that means 6 & 8 will be stocked with turnbull, rob gog, shingler, murphy etc.....be interesting to see our first choice backrow for this season. might not be the expected:

6: shingler
7: turnbull
8: rob gog
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Post by ScarletSpiderman Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:00 pm

Pioden - I didn't wanna mention Lee Bach, because I may have been one of those who pointed out similarities between the two little men wearing the 11 shirt.

It will be interesting to see what happens with our back row options as if Easterby is looking at going for out and out blindside, openside and number 8, will that mean Shingler may drop back into the second row and Timani will be moved back to Number 8/Blindside?
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Post by Smirnoffpriest Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:06 pm

I can see the pluses of having out and out players, but it'll be a shame of having only one of Turnbull & Shingler on the pitch. But as a plus it'll prob mean Timani staying as lock either back up to Earle or playing with him until Vallejos can challenge for a place, as I think he did very well for us last year as a lock and added some grunt to the pack.

I see McGog and Murphy as our 8's, but think this will be a weakness as neither are out and out 8s, and McGog hasn't impress me when I've seen him at 8 in the past - but who knows, with a full preseason to concentrate on the position and a new forward coach, maybe he'll shine.

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Post by ScarletSpiderman Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:13 pm

Out of interest where is Rob recently? Not played in the last pre-season game.
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Post by pioden gorllewin Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:19 pm

think rob has been injured - be interesting what team will be picked for the london welsh game. should see a few of the welsh internationa back - hoping we'll pick as close to a full strengh 1st team as possible ready for the leinster game.
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Post by pioden gorllewin Wed 22 Aug 2012, 9:51 am

Looks like we will have reinforcements in time for the leinster game.

Meanwhile, Easterby confirmed the region are hoping to finalise another prop and second row signing before the season's opener against Leinster at Parc y Scarlets on September 1.
"It is no secret that a prop and second row have been a priority for us after losing Iestyn and Rhys Thomas last season and three second rows," added the former Ireland back-rower. "We are pleased with who we have brought in so far and hopefully a couple more signings can be completed shortly."

http://www.thisissouthwales.co.uk/Morgan-Stoddart-closes-Scarlets-comeback/story-16745694-detail/story.html
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Post by ScarletSpiderman Wed 22 Aug 2012, 1:31 pm

I guess at least that does mean that something is officially being done, and it is not just a case of rumour mills running. The sooner the squad is officially all signed up the better.

I can't wait, only 10 days to go!
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Post by pioden gorllewin Wed 22 Aug 2012, 3:03 pm

its been a long summer hey spiderman? don't think easters is the type of guy who would say something if it wasn't pretty concrete. once the two new players arrive at parc y scarlets, im guessing all the welsh regions would have finished their summer recruitment. lots of activity on and off the field for blues & scarlets. some shrewd signings by the dragons & the ospreys have lost a few players but it seems a settled camp in ospreylia.
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Post by ScarletSpiderman Thu 23 Aug 2012, 12:09 pm

Not a long summer as such, but I do a bit of stress-venting at the rugby, and without it I must say I have been struggling to stay calm at work. So I am glad it is almost back.

Yeah for once the four regions seem to hav ditched the deadwood and the aging, and replaced them with players who (theoretically) can do a better job.
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Post by Smirnoffpriest Thu 23 Aug 2012, 8:53 pm

Apparently Darren Waters is out for 7 months, that's a big blow for the Dragons after losing Gavin Thomas to retirement.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/19358469?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

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Post by pioden gorllewin Fri 24 Aug 2012, 7:15 pm

jacobie adriaanise has signed for scarlets. Will arrive end of October :-)
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Post by Morgannwg Fri 24 Aug 2012, 7:18 pm

Pretty unknown to me. Where's that awful South African moderator when you need him?
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Post by maestegmafia Fri 24 Aug 2012, 7:20 pm

Looks like Scarlets are getting what they wanted.

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Post by pioden gorllewin Fri 24 Aug 2012, 7:25 pm

tighthead who is currently starting for lions in currie cup. apparently good scrummager and carries well. not at home at moment to post link - google his name with worldartist and his profile should come up.
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Post by Morgannwg Fri 24 Aug 2012, 7:26 pm

Did you guys get Carizza? I can't remember. Also, it says in the OP this front row player is from the Kings?
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Post by pioden gorllewin Fri 24 Aug 2012, 7:35 pm

carizza never came, apparently it was vallejos the argie lock we were after - media got the wrong one (same agent). sorry he's a lions player, 2nd choice TH at lions behind pat cilliers ( player we failed to sign)
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Post by Morgannwg Fri 24 Aug 2012, 7:46 pm

Yep I think Pat may be staying in SA for a while, he was proud to pull on the dark green jersey.
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Post by pioden gorllewin Fri 24 Aug 2012, 7:49 pm

http://mobi.supersport.com/rugby/sa-rugby/news/120824/Lions_lose_Adriaanse_to_scarletts
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Post by Smirnoffpriest Sat 25 Aug 2012, 1:23 pm

Good news that we've reinforced our options at prop, and before the Leinster game. Shame he isn't coming to us before October (I hope it's the start), I really hope he gives us what we need and helps our physicality and scrum

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Post by gowales Sat 25 Aug 2012, 5:29 pm

Seems like a journeyman.

Edit: I just read that he's played for the Emerging Boks... maybe he's a good player, we'll have to see

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Post by ScarletSpiderman Tue 28 Aug 2012, 2:26 pm

Adriaanse is out of the Lions squad this week due to injury. I assume that we have some legal way to ditch him if it is going to be a long lay-off.
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Post by Smirnoffpriest Tue 28 Aug 2012, 4:09 pm

doesn't sound promising - though if he is out injured and doesn't come we are really up poo creak.

IMO he seems like a journeyman, but you never know until he's played for a few months, he could be a good player. I think I'm just disappointed we didn't get Cilliers and Eaton.

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Post by pioden gorllewin Thu 30 Aug 2012, 10:55 am

http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/sport/dragons/9899744.Dragons_in_search_for_number_seven/

looks like dragons are going to recruit an openside. any dragons heard of any possible targets.

also looks like the scarlets final south african recruit is being held up due to the long drawn out working visa. but apparently the deal is still on.
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Post by Guest Thu 30 Aug 2012, 11:12 am

pioden gorllewin wrote:http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/sport/dragons/9899744.Dragons_in_search_for_number_seven/

looks like dragons are going to recruit an openside. any dragons heard of any possible targets.

also looks like the scarlets final south african recruit is being held up due to the long drawn out working visa. but apparently the deal is still on.

Don't see it myself. I guess if it's true, that they really don't rate Rob Nash.

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Post by Guest Thu 30 Aug 2012, 11:15 am

To be honest, most of us Dragons were under the impression we had spent our budget too

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