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Post by Hero Fri 03 Aug 2012, 4:04 pm

First topic message reminder :

Please can anyone who is in the realistic league and can see this please post below!!

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Post by GSC Sun 19 Aug 2012, 7:40 pm

1m seems excessive, as does injury really. People aren't required to vote
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 19 Aug 2012, 7:42 pm

People aren't required to vote, but you need them to vote to get proper results.

Offering a say 500K incentive, means more people will vote more regularly IMO
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Post by GSC Sun 19 Aug 2012, 8:02 pm

That twas my suggestion.

Minor enough so it doesn't skew the game, but an incentive all the same.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 20 Aug 2012, 2:36 pm

Right lets all have a vote on this then.

If you are in favour of bringing in a 500K incentive/reward for doing predos say Yes. If not say No.

I say Yes
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Post by GSC Mon 20 Aug 2012, 2:45 pm

Ya
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Post by Marky Mon 20 Aug 2012, 5:23 pm

Alright, just wondering if there's anyone who could take over this week's Foreign Offers and possibly take the job full time?

I'm finding my time online is reduced due to a heavy workload, busy private life and moving house in 2 weeks to add to the Flip!

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Post by GSC Mon 20 Aug 2012, 5:25 pm

I'll do it today, not sure about full time
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Post by GSC Mon 20 Aug 2012, 5:48 pm

Need somebody to do mine tho
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 20 Aug 2012, 7:02 pm

Scott Dann - £5 million
Nathan Dyer - £2.5 million
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Post by Hero Mon 20 Aug 2012, 7:04 pm

Lol I've just two as well on the offer page!

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 20 Aug 2012, 7:10 pm

Laugh

Great minds eh Hero Wink
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Post by Hero Mon 20 Aug 2012, 7:11 pm

My offers were better Wink

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Post by GSC Mon 20 Aug 2012, 7:50 pm

Not that I would take any of them.

Had Dann for 5m last week Laugh
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 20 Aug 2012, 7:50 pm

Have you guys seen Nick's pursuit of CF on the forum?
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Post by GSC Mon 20 Aug 2012, 7:56 pm

nop
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 20 Aug 2012, 7:58 pm

Click on Nick's profile and look through his posts. CF has alerted a moderator, but over exaggerated what was said, and been told its not that bad
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Post by Fernando Mon 20 Aug 2012, 8:07 pm

#sameoldCFalwaysleaving

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Post by GSC Mon 20 Aug 2012, 8:07 pm

I'm on it
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Post by Trebs Mon 20 Aug 2012, 11:42 pm

Extra injury for failing to predict at most IMO. No cash incentives.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 21 Aug 2012, 12:13 pm

Can someone do that release for me please?
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 21 Aug 2012, 1:57 pm

Right my thoughts on the foreigns so far:

Falcao - Yes
Di Maria - No. Don't think Madrid would let him go at all.
Izaguirre - Yes Whistle
Bridge - Yes, dunno why he is signing him
Boyata - No, City would want some cash for him
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Post by Fernando Tue 21 Aug 2012, 2:10 pm

Odnan wrote:Right my thoughts on the foreigns so far:

Falcao - No - Wants to stay @ Madrid - http://foreign.peacefmonline.com/sports/201208/130219.php
Di Maria - No. Don't think Madrid would let him go at all.
Izaguirre - Yes
Bridge - Yes, dunno why he is signing him
Boyata - No,Already in League

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Post by GSC Tue 21 Aug 2012, 2:46 pm

No, would want CL minimum I think
Yes, he was pretty poor last year when i saw him and its 30m.
Dunno, heard he was linked with better and never heard of that site before
Bridge, yes even though hes crap
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 21 Aug 2012, 2:47 pm

What players GSC? And for the Izaguirre link, that is the EDP, local newspaper
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Post by GSC Tue 21 Aug 2012, 2:48 pm

Same order as above
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Post by GSC Tue 21 Aug 2012, 2:48 pm

If everyone else is fine with then I have no problems lol.
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Post by Hero Tue 21 Aug 2012, 2:54 pm

Whilst I would agree Falcao wants to stay at Madrid, I would say that due to the debt Madrid are in then they would push for a sale.

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Post by GSC Tue 21 Aug 2012, 3:05 pm

Threw up some questions
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 21 Aug 2012, 3:07 pm

Cheers GSC, forgot about that lol.

I agree with Hero, Falcao may want to stay, but Madrid need the money, and he would be all but flown to Spurs for that fee
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Post by Hero Tue 21 Aug 2012, 3:08 pm

Oh and in regards to CL football, not blowing my own trumpet but it's looking a 2 horse race for the title as it stands, we're coming up to halfway through the league so it'll take a huge shock to now not be in the CL places come end of the season.

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Post by GSC Tue 21 Aug 2012, 3:09 pm

Fine you can have him if Nando agrees lol
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Post by GSC Tue 21 Aug 2012, 3:10 pm

Thought the 3rd and 4th question might encourage some transfer activity
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Post by Fernando Tue 21 Aug 2012, 3:11 pm

Does the mean we can buy who we want from Real Madrid/Barcelona since their in more debt?

Also didn't they previously slap a 50m price tag on him as well...

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 21 Aug 2012, 3:14 pm

But they are in a more manageable debt ain't they Nando, Athletico are really struggling.
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Post by Fernando Tue 21 Aug 2012, 3:15 pm

Barcelona/Madrid own 1.2bn of the 3.5bn debt in spanish football if that's not struggling then nothing is

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Post by GSC Tue 21 Aug 2012, 3:17 pm

Aye, but the banks don't call it in. Everyone else is being tightened.

Same way United can owe so much.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 21 Aug 2012, 3:17 pm

Well are Utd not in huge debt? It doesn't affect them that much, like it does say a team like Athletico. They can still afford to hold onto there players, and sign new one, like Song and RVP Wink
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Post by Fernando Tue 21 Aug 2012, 3:18 pm

He can have him if we're going by this rubbish then but he should made to pay the 50m Chelsea were quoted they wouldn't sell him for 4m profit even in that kind of debt OK

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Post by GSC Tue 21 Aug 2012, 3:19 pm

Aye if someone else was quoted 50m, and circumstances haven't drastically changed since.
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Post by Hero Tue 21 Aug 2012, 3:19 pm

Does the mean we can buy who we want from Real Madrid/Barcelona since their in more debt?

Atletico are a selling club as they have lived beyond their means for too long and now the banks in Spain are no longer able to bankroll them they are struggling, there's no denying that point.
Barca/Real whilst in debt generate far more income through global sales, CL success and TV rights so it is a manageable debt.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 21 Aug 2012, 3:20 pm

TBH I didn't know about the 35m quote, but if its right then it must be paid
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Post by Hero Tue 21 Aug 2012, 3:24 pm

In regards to Atletico only making a 4m profit, that also isn't true:


So why exactly would Atletico be willing to sell their star striker after less than a year? The answer lies in their huge debt problem. The Madrid side saw the entirety of the transfer fee received from Kun Aguero's move to City go straight to the Spanish tax-authorities last summer, and even after that they still owe around 250 million Euros. The severity of their debt explains the complexity of Falcao's transfer from Porto. Falcao cost Atleti 40 million Euros in theory, but in reality they are estimated to have paid only half of that. The rest was covered by a third-party investment fund, the majority of which was made up by Falcao's representative, 'super agent' Jorge Mendes. Should a major club move in with a big offer for Falcao this summer, Atletico's debt problem combined with the desire of Mendes to continue to make money out of his investment could see the Madrid side bidding farewell to their MVP.


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Post by GSC Tue 21 Aug 2012, 3:28 pm

I give up trying to get my head round transfers lol.

Decide amongst yourselves on this one
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 21 Aug 2012, 3:29 pm

GSC we need your view. I orignally said yes, so I will stick by that
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Post by Fernando Tue 21 Aug 2012, 4:44 pm

If Athletico slap a 50m price tag on him that should be the price tbh

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Post by Hero Tue 21 Aug 2012, 4:45 pm

Like Malaga's £20m price tag on Cazorla?

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Post by Fernando Tue 21 Aug 2012, 4:46 pm

that was the article at the time no one knew the price OK it said 20m so i paid 20m you should of just offered that in the 1st place instead of trying to cheapskate it OK


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Post by Fernando Tue 21 Aug 2012, 4:46 pm

If we're going by that Falcao ain't going anywhere cos he says he doesn't want to leave

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Post by Hero Tue 21 Aug 2012, 4:50 pm

He doesn't want to leave, that isn't in doubt and we have already gone over that.
The matter is that Atletico are riddled in debt and sell their best players. Aguero last summer for £35m initially even though the papers were quoting fees as ridiculous as £90m, notice a theme here between the price papers quote and what they actually then go for?

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Post by Hero Tue 21 Aug 2012, 5:04 pm

that was the article at the time no one knew the price OK it said 20m so i paid 20m you should of just offered that in the 1st place instead of trying to cheapskate it OK

I wasn't trying to cheapskate it though, I was putting forward the bid that he actually got sold for! Where I published links to say the offer was £15m and that the buying club held the cards due to the selling clubs prediciment.


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