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Top 3 Fly-Halves in world rugby.

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Post by wales606 Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:13 pm

Pick 3...

If Carter doesn't get everyone's vote, you're all mad.

Based on current form...

(Gavin Henson not included as he is obviously the best, but is excluded due to testing positive for fake tan)
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Post by offload Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:28 pm

You only included two NZ players so I was only able to vote for two. If I knew who the third best Kiwi 10 was I would have been able to complete the task. Wink
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Post by wales606 Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:31 pm

offload wrote:You only included two NZ players so I was only able to vote for two. If I knew who the third best Kiwi 10 was I would have been able to complete the task. Wink

I voted for the two kiwis too. Event though Cruden hardly ever plays he is still better than most of the world, which goes to show the quality FHs have disappeared over the last 4 years. S.Jones, R.O'Gara, M.Giteau, J.Wilkinson have all been poorly replaced and Steyn and Cooper are badly off-form.
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Post by LordDowlais Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:34 pm

Again it is all about the Ausies for me, mind you is Berrick Barnes a 10 ? But Dan Carter will always be no. 1.

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Post by wales606 Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:36 pm

LordDowlais wrote:Again it is all about the Ausies for me, mind you is Berrick Barnes a 10 ? But Dan Carter will always be no. 1.

I put Barnes at 10 and centre, since he has played a fair bit in both positions for Aus recently.
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Post by ChequeredJersey Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:38 pm

On form, Carter, Cruden and Michalak
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Post by LordDowlais Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:52 pm

Berrick will always be a centre for me.

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Post by LordDowlais Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:52 pm

Berrick will always be a centre for me.

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Post by nganboy Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:43 am

Berrick will always be a reserve for me covering 10 and 12

There are heaps of good 10s around.
Beauden Barrett will leap from Cruden in 2 years time. Goosen will be great if given few games.

Stephen Donald is a RWC cup winning 10 too Very Happy
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Post by Mr Fishpaste Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:07 am

LordDowlais wrote:Again it is all about the Ausies for me, mind you is Berrick Barnes a 10 ? But Dan Carter will always be no. 1.

I wouldn't play Carter at prop. He'd get injured! Very Happy

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Post by Mr Fishpaste Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:09 am

"Morne Steyn is the best flyhalf in the world, and is, in fact the only flyhalf in South Africa" -H. Meyer (seeing as though actions speak louder than words)

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Post by LordDowlais Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:22 am

Mr Fishpaste wrote:
LordDowlais wrote:Again it is all about the Ausies for me, mind you is Berrick Barnes a 10 ? But Dan Carter will always be no. 1.

I wouldn't play Carter at prop. He'd get injured! Very Happy

Sarcky git. Laugh thumbsup

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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:43 am

Hernandez if he wasn't so injury prone could be savage
-defence? Check
-kicking? Check
-ball skills? Check
-decision making? Check

I went for Sexton as second choice as I think he is the bee's knees

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:37 am

Carter/Cruden
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Sexton

Why is Farrell on there?!?!

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Post by disneychilly Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:43 am

I like Sexton too. I reckon he'd go well as the Lions 10 if Schmidt gets the backs coach job.

Carter then daylight though. Him, John and Ella for my all time top three. Nicky Allen would have pushed them all had it not been for such a tragic demise.

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:44 am

Sexton has yet to play consistently for Ireland as well as he does in the Leinster shirt. Flood was equally erratic and now seems out of favour. Priestland is more up and down than a rollercoaster. Morné Steyn is reliable but reliably deficient on attack. Cooper needs time and confidence to regain form, Barnes kicks ball away like it was a hive of wasps and Lievremont played his best halfback at flyhalf.

This thread makes for grim reading.

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Post by disneychilly Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:49 am

I have to say I'm so disappointed in Barnes this year. Both in his option taking and his execution. Wonder if Deans has gotten to him and eroded his confidence. Another Wallaby completely unsure of their place in the team.

Man I wish Meyer would pick Lambie or Goosen at 10.

Priestland has had some shockers post WC. Inconsistency is a disease born into Welsh 10s at present. It would help if they had someone with a bullet pass to work though.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:50 am

Listening to the Boks lot carry on youd have to put Lambie up there

Generally in losing, sorry not winning, sides the guy not in the team is a world beater...up till the point hes picked.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:51 am

I'd have Flood & Sexton well ahead in the NH.

Actually have preferred Cruden to Carter this season but Carter is Carter

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Post by Biltong Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:51 am

It seems three posters think when you say three best flyhalves the OP meant best kickers. Whistle
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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:52 am

Sexpest is currently a strong 3rd in the poll....just how bad must the rest of the Ireland team be?

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Post by majesticimperialman Mon Aug 27, 2012 11:34 am

WHY Is Johhny Wilkinson not included?

Yes he may not play international rugby any more. But neither does Stephen Jones. and he is still included.

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Post by TJ1 Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:45 pm

Carter is the best by such a long way - he seems to be the complete player. Laidlaw is getting better as is Sexton - but only the best of the rest

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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:51 pm

Still think Laidlaw is a good 9 but no 10.
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Post by wales606 Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:51 pm

TJ wrote:Carter is the best by such a long way - he seems to be the complete player. Laidlaw is getting better as is Sexton - but only the best of the rest

Carter has been the best by a distance for ages now, since about 2005ish.
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Post by wales606 Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:52 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:Still think Laidlaw is a good 9 but no 10.

I'd disagree he is a good 10, but an average scrumhalf. He could develop into the controlling and running FH Scotland desperately need.
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Post by TJ1 Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:54 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:Still think Laidlaw is a good 9 but no 10.

having watched him play both club and international he is a very good 10 as well. Been playing 10 for a couple of years now. What is really interesting is when his talents get used properly - with him and Blair interchanging and playing a speed game - that makes life very interesting. Some of the best half backs can play both 9 and 10

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ChequeredJersey wrote:Still think Laidlaw is a good 9 but no 10.

I'd disagree he is a good 10, but an average scrumhalf. He could develop into the controlling and running FH Scotland desperately need.

Weir is the man for the future for Scotland - sop long as numptybaws Robinson does not destroy his confidence. Best 10 In Scotland for a generation or more

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Post by Feckless Rogue Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:21 pm

Apart from his overall attacking game (which is the best in Europe), Sexton is also the best tackling 10 in the world since since Wilkinson. It tends to be a weaker part of most flyhalfs game. But he's not just competent he's a ferocious defender.
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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:32 pm

Carter's d is not exactly weak
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Post by Gibson Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:40 pm

Feckless Rogue wrote:Apart from his overall attacking game (which is the best in Europe), Sexton is also the best tackling 10 in the world since since Wilkinson. It tends to be a weaker part of most flyhalfs game. But he's not just competent he's a ferocious defender.

And passer.


1. Carter
2. Sexton
3. Cruden

4. Contepomi in his pomp. (An even better 12)
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:19 pm

Sexton best tackling 10 in world?!?!?

I cannot agree with that statement in the slightest Feckless. I'm a huge Sexton fan but he's not even the best tackling 10 in the 6N!

That accolade goes to young Farrell.....it's pretty much all he can do mind but his defence is outstanding.

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Post by majesticimperialman Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:33 pm

Carter, Cruden, Michalak.

After those three, it is a roll of the dice.

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Post by Guest Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:43 pm

majesticimperialman wrote:WHY Is Johhny Wilkinson not included?

Yes he may not play international rugby any more. But neither does Stephen Jones. and he is still included.
because johnny is crap

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:46 pm

Very eloquent viewtothegym.

Care to give us your insight as to why exactly you belive him to be crap?
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:53 pm

View is such an intelligent chap, I always look forward to his words of wisdom....

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Post by Guest Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:53 pm

Just because you have been around a long time don't make you good, O'Gara for example.

Johnny boy kicked a good drop goal and benefited from an arm chair ride behind a fearsome pack.

A proven now he is in Toulon behind a big pack, back in Newcastle he didn't look anything better than average

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:57 pm

You obviously didn't see him much for Newcastle, he was often outstanding.

"Just because you have been around a long time don't make you good"

Did it take you long to come up with that little cracker?

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Post by drsambo1928 Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:03 pm

I went for Dan the man Carter, Quade Cooper and Morne Steyn. Daniel Carter is a no brainer and the majority of people probably voted for him, he is no doubt the best fly half in the world, he has everything.

Steyn I wasn't so sure about but he works well in the Bokke system although he is a little off form, he still is one of the best kicking 10's on form.

Quade Cooper, I kinda regret picking him, the only thing I can say in his defence is that he is unpredictable sometimes(although rarely) working to his advantage. But no team really needs an unpredictable 10 and his unpredictabiliality most of the time works against himself and the team.

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Post by Guest Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:18 pm

SShhh now sgt pool grown ups talking!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:21 pm

There should be a minimum IQ to post on 606, would really sort the Wums out.

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Post by Guest Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:28 pm

Contrary to belief sgt, im a lot smarter than you realize.

Im not a WUM , i don't rate johnny so i guess in any English mans eyes im a WUM

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Post by sugarNspikes Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:29 pm

viewtothegym wrote:Contrary to belief sgt, im a lot smarter than you realize.
Laugh You must do your 'smart' stuff offline.

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Post by Guest Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:32 pm

Why?
play the weak lame fool and the sharks circle quicker.

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Post by sugarNspikes Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:34 pm

viewtothegym wrote:play the weak lame fool and the sharks circle quicker.
Is that you, Confucius?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:37 pm

^^ Haha......

On second thoughts View, you do actually come across as rather intelligent.


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Post by Guest Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:49 pm

Lemon entry my dear Watson ......Lemon entry. chin

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Post by nganboy Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:03 pm

Even if Johnny were on the list I think it would be difficult to pick him on current form.
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Post by blackcanelion Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:30 am

How's Nick Evans playing these days?

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Post by ChequeredJersey Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:41 am

Had a really good first half of last season then picked up a knock around January and hasn't looked the same since. Still controlled the game excellently in the big games, especially the AP final. Still wouldn't swap him for any FH in the Northern Hemisphere
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Post by ChequeredJersey Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:44 am

Also for right or wrong he was officially the player of the year in the Aviva Premiership. He just is beginning to look like he can't play a full season so we might have to rest him and save him for harder matches. Which sucks as we struggle without him
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