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Post by Pal Joey Thu 6 Sep 2012 - 3:24

First topic message reminder :

Hi all,

I've set up our very own 606v2 T20 World Cup SuperBru tipping competition for anyone who is interested.

http://www.superbru.com/worldt20/player_home.asp

First game is Sri Lanka v Zimbabwe on Tuesday, September 18 at 19:30 (local time) in Hambantota.

The full list of fixtures is here:

http://www.espncricinfo.com/world-twenty20-2012/content/series/531597.html?template=fixtures

The pool code for 606v2: playsacs

Everyone is welcome.
Enjoy the matches and best of luck to your team.

Who do you think will win?


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Post by msp83 Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:11

India not finding not enough boundaries, remember their batting lineup will have to score 10-15 more than other side have to do with their bowling. Now Gambhir gone.

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Post by Mike Selig Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:12

Finn gets Gambhir which might just help India - he was beginning to look tired.

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Post by KP_fan Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:12

and gambhir going away is a blessing in disgusie...did his job...prevented a top order collpase at a reasonbale SR and went out at the right time
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Post by msp83 Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:14

Its the captain, I hope the old version would be out there, not much time to get settled, he'll have to go on the attack right away.

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Post by KP_fan Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:17

there is a lot of skill / innovation required to find boundaries from here....or a lot of brute power...else it's not easy to get value from simply well timed strokes alone
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Post by msp83 Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:17

Sharma has already scored a lot more than he managed over the last 3 months!!.

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Post by Mike Selig Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:19

First really good over for India for a while. They'll need more of those.

Brilliant from Bairstow to save a run though.

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Post by KP_fan Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:21

msp83 wrote:Sharma has already scored a lot more than he managed over the last 3 months!!.

enought to last him 3 more months laughing
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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:23

Mike Selig wrote:Would have had Dhoni in next - he likes to play himself in a bit before going for the bowling, so giving him 9 overs would have been perfect. Of course Sharma will now smash the ball to all parts.

England have almost certainly got the Bresnan over Patel call wrong.

It was an odd call regardless of their theories about slow bouncers, 4 right arm seamers (only one of which is genuinely fast) in a side and only one slow bowler is horribly unbalanced. It really goes against their usual thinking too. Given Bresnans been in rank form too ....
It cant be the only reason they are struggling a bit (like India are playing well in conditions that suit them) but its the obvious mistake to pick up on for sure. Briggs may even have
bought the wickets, Patel wouldve given a controlling option and made the Indians think a bit more. As it is they are comfortable going easy on Swann and creaming the quicks.

I dont think England have the batting to make 180 against any side, the plus is that Indias bowling is poor so if they can keep this from getting out of control they are still in the game. Lets not forget the last 50 over world cup....

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Post by KP_fan Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:24

Eng has ben uncharacteristically sloppy in the field........let's blame it on Monty laughing
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Post by msp83 Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:25

Last couple of overs coming up, India 143-3. Will they make it to 170? Not easy.

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Post by Mike Selig Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:29

It's been very much a mixed bag from England in the field. A few good saves and good pieces of athleticism but a few basic errors. There's another, good throw to the keeper would have had Dhoni.

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Post by msp83 Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:30

10 of the 19th. 170 looking more dificult. Seems like it is not easy to hit the big shots as the ball isn't coming on that well, but with the average bowling unit, I feel 160 won't be enough.

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Post by Mike Selig Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:30

Crucial last over this. Anything less than 12 and England will feel they've done well. Anything more than 15 gives India good momentum going in.

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Post by KP_fan Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:32

David lloyd is right......Jade D shouldn't have asked for a change of ball...ind get a harder ball
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Post by Mike Selig Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:34

Unbelievable from Dernbach. Given the pitch why go full?

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Post by msp83 Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:34

50 for Rohit Sharma, congratulations, but I hope we won't have to wait a year for the next one!.

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Post by Mike Selig Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:36

There you are, back of a length slower balls give a single and a wicket (curtesy of some brilliant fielding).

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Post by msp83 Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:36

Dhoni gone with 2 balls to go, but an expensive over nevertheless from Dernbach. India 166-4.

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Post by KP_fan Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:36

they should be bowling 6 slower balls with various variants of leg and off cutters
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Post by Mike Selig Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:39

Can only think Dernbach wants to practice his yorkers for later on in the tournament. On this evidence probably a good idea.

Big last over for India, getting to the 170. I suspect we'll only know how good that actually is when England have done their batting, but England will be disappointed with their effort in the field. Should have restricted India to under 160.

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Post by KP_fan Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:40

17 off the last over...and India did maximize....due to controlled agression from Rohit and Dhoni...and some not very clever bowling by Eng.

India should beleieve they do not need 7 batsmen...especially given that Pathan, Ashwin Bhajji and Chawla are all handy batsmen
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Post by msp83 Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:41

India ends up with 170, a poor over from Dernbach at the end with all those wides and low full toss. India have 3 spinners in their ranks, Yuvraj, Harbhajan and Chawla, and Dhoni can also call up Raina and Rohit Sharma as well for a few overs. England will have to bat well to win this, I would say 50-50 at this stage.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:43

Slow pitch so India will be delighted to make 170 despite only getting 1 six. England just didn't take enough wickets at key moments and the fielding was loose at times. Still, I feel England can chase 171.

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Post by mystiroakey Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:45

i would give india the marginal advantage . gonna be a great 2 hours of cricket. This is what i have been waiting for. A real match up

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:45

Dernbach rarely puts in a consistent run of good performances. He is capable of bowling well in this form but my general sense is that his bowling performances will typically come out at around: good 25%, OK 25%, fairly poor 25%, very poor 25%. Not sure that is good enough....

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Post by Mike Selig Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:46

I would go 55-45 India because they've got the runs on the board. It is easier making 60 off 5 at the end batting first (although India "only" made 55). I don't think the pitch is as slow as some are making out, the seamers are coming onto the bat fine. If India had Ashwin I wouldn't fancy England much, but Chawla has a tendancy to bowl the slider which is probably the easiest ball to hit on this pitch. Harbajhan will fire it in also. I think Yuvraj may be more than useful though.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:46

Dernbache is such a liability. He has pathetic overs far too often. Is there no alternative? Handed India the game in that over.

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Post by Mike Selig Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:48

Can I have a go about over rates again? It should be an hour and twenty minutes for 20 overs, not an hour and 40! The whole point of T20 is the game happens fast and you have less time - if you keep allowing sides to spend as long as they like in the field part of that challenge is gone, and the game is less skilful.

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Post by Mike Selig Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:53

Yuvraj misses a very makeable run-out. Pathan's hit a good length so far, just short of driveable.

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Post by mystiroakey Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:54

Yes you may Mike. You tell em!!!

Kieswater looks abit edgy..

Really dont like this hales kieswater opening pair. WHERES COOK when we need him!

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Post by mystiroakey Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:54

sweet hales is gone- Now india get kiieswater out and we may just win!

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Post by msp83 Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:55

Fine start for India, Pathan with a good over 2 runs and a wicket!!. Hales gone bowled.

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Post by mystiroakey Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:55

The new english hero Mr Wright step up!

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Post by Mike Selig Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:56

Brain freeze! Hales obviously forgetting the lessons from the Afghanistan match. That's what scoreboard pressure can do.

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Post by Mike Selig Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:58

Kieswetter and Wright both struggle to rotate the strike. Something Gambhir, Kohli and even Pathan did very well for India.

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Post by msp83 Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 16:59

Balaji being smashed around, Thought Dinda should have shared the new ball.

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Post by mystiroakey Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 17:01

getting a very straight line this indian bowler...

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Post by mystiroakey Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 17:03

N WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! to high

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Post by msp83 Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 17:03

First Kieswetter, now Wright, the English are taking the attack to the bowlers. Spin early?
Now Wright gone!!!.

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Post by msp83 Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 17:04

LBW to Pathan, was that too high?

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Post by mystiroakey Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 17:06

I wanna see a replay of it. But I suppose no point getting annoyed with the decision- It is what it is. Wish DRS was in this format

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Post by mystiroakey Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 17:06

Ahh it was a good decision. Good straight bowling

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Post by msp83 Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 17:07

Dinda into the attack.

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Post by Mike Selig Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 17:08

England are seemingly desperate to do everything differently than what they have done so successfully recently. Pressure or a conscious effort to try a few things in a dead rubber? I would say pressure...

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Post by msp83 Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 17:10

They haven't shown a replay as yet!!.
India hit the first 6 of the innings in the 20th over, England already have 3. Kieswetter on fire!!.

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Post by mystiroakey Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 17:11

msp83 wrote:They haven't shown a replay as yet!!.
India hit the first 6 of the innings in the 20th over, England already have 3. Kieswetter on fire!!.

we got one - It was a good decision.


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Post by msp83 Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 17:12

Will Dhoni give Pathan another over. He took 2, but I think a 3rd straight over may not be a very good idea.
Its Pathan indeed!!.

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Post by msp83 Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 17:15

9 of that Pathan over, England 39-2. They are pulling off the big shots, but not enough singles.

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Post by Mike Selig Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 17:16

I agree msp, I think 3 overs on the bounce is rarely a good idea in T20.

Sure enough Kieswetter helps himself to a couple of boundaries.

Crucial stage now, spin into the attack.

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