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Post by clivemcl Tue 25 Sep 2012, 2:38 pm

First topic message reminder :

From an Ulster point of view, we may not get much chat on this one, thats fine and understandable. For those on both sides who want to discuss the game ahead, I feel they should be welcomed to do so.

Ulster are (understandably) taking a little longer to announce a squad for this one. I wonder if anyone has any info on whether there was training as per usual?

I imagine that the new guys and the older more experienced guys will play. Perhaps a few younger guys might be advised to sit it out for another week. I think all in all, there's a fairly Northern Irish attitude to get on with things. I think we will see a strong Ulster side. And I expect they will play well.

I want Cardiff fans to talk freely on here. You should be targeting a win (same as always), and not worrying about our team. I believe once the selected players hear that whistle, it will be business as usual.

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Post by Notch Fri 28 Sep 2012, 3:54 pm

3 hours man... can't wait.
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Post by clivemcl Fri 28 Sep 2012, 4:03 pm

Tommy to bag a few on his return? Run

Ignoring for now, any emotional issue, speaking purely about the teams form to date - I would want to see some improvement in the attack of the backline. Will be very interesting to see if the centre partnership allows that.

Perhaps Jackson should be looking to put the Blues under pressure with kicks for Tommy to chase. Perhaps a wee cross-field inside the Blues 22?

ok.. now i'm getting carried away.

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Post by Notch Fri 28 Sep 2012, 4:06 pm

Can't see us scoring four tries unless Cardiff have a shocker in terms of defence. We've one winger in his first game of the season, one winger who has only one start, a centre partnership that's playing together for the first time ever, Darren Cave starting in an unfamiliar role at 12 and Jackson is yet to really get the backline moving.

Think we'll squeak past them though.
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Post by Smirnoffpriest Fri 28 Sep 2012, 4:13 pm

I think it'll definately be close - the Blues scrum may creak a bit, but they have reinforcements to bring on, so that can improve - they have a very competitive backrow and quite an exciting back line with Tovey, Robinson, Fish and Roberts - and James is usually quite clinical if you point him in the right direction and don't ask him to do anything complicated like catch or pass.

Ulster could shade it, but then we have no idea how they'll play (men possessed or very distracted)

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Post by thebluesmancometh Fri 28 Sep 2012, 4:30 pm

Taking Patchell out of the limelight??

No chance, the kid needs rugby, and gametime at this level, he should get it while he's playing well. Taking him out at this stage will do nothing but slow his progress.

I'm not getting carried away, he is nowhere near a wales shirt (after 2 competitive games) but IMO while he's playing well he deserves to keep hold of the Blues shirt.

That said I am looking forward to seeing how Tovey goes, and I expect the Blues to take this comfortably enough.

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Post by thebluesmancometh Fri 28 Sep 2012, 4:30 pm

Well without seeing the Blues lineup properly!

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Post by Cari Fri 28 Sep 2012, 4:50 pm

clivemcl wrote:Tommy to bag a few on his return? Run


Of course, mun! Cause I'll be there egging him on! Very Happy

Seriously, I reckon Ulster will just edge ahead in the final score. I hope it's a good match for crowd and players though, and just a generally great night all round.

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Post by JayMaster3000 Fri 28 Sep 2012, 5:38 pm

Just getting my stuff together to leave the house for the game!!

SUFTUM!!

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Post by Morgannwg Fri 28 Sep 2012, 5:52 pm

Need help with watching this, is it on iplayer? Doesn't appear to be.
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Post by Notch Fri 28 Sep 2012, 5:53 pm

BBC NI, should be on red button?
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Post by Morgannwg Fri 28 Sep 2012, 5:58 pm

thanks.
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Post by Don Alfonso Fri 28 Sep 2012, 6:08 pm

SUFTUM

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Post by thebluesmancometh Fri 28 Sep 2012, 6:15 pm

Am really excited now, gutted I can't make it there...

COME ON THE BLUES!!!

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Post by MrsP Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:02 pm

I hope my lads are not as emotional about tonight as I am.

Sad

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Post by WillyGilly Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:05 pm

Very emotional night. Mixed feelings. Come on lads!
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Post by thebluesmancometh Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:06 pm

It's strange MrsP, you don't want them calm, and emotionless, but you want them cool enough to think straight too.

It's a very tricky game tonight, and you wouldn't take anything from Ulster if they just can't get their heads straight!!!

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Post by Morgannwg Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:08 pm

Good luck Ulster, wherever I am I'll be doing my minute silence.

SUFTUM.
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Post by thebluesmancometh Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:11 pm

Cave drops from the off, I hope he gets over that quick.

I don't know why but I have the feeling the Ulster mindset will be fragile

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Post by MrsP Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:12 pm

Thanks lads.

Really don't give a fig about the result. Just want them to be able to get over this hurdle of the first game.

WillyG

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Post by thebluesmancometh Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:13 pm

Llloyd Williams what are you doing???!!!!

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Post by Notch Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:14 pm

We do look unfocused. I'm sure we will grow into the game though.

I think just purely getting focused on rugby is the best thing for these men.
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Post by Notch Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:16 pm

I mean, we are making all sorts of unforced errors. That was lucky he knocked that on. We're not all there, not yet anyway.
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Post by thebluesmancometh Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:16 pm

Ulster are all over the shop early on, the longer this game goes on the better equipped they'll be IMO

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Post by thebluesmancometh Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:17 pm

Tom James looking extremely sharp this season though

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Post by thebluesmancometh Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:18 pm

Silly mistake from Trimble, not the only guy doing it though

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Post by Notch Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:18 pm

I'll tell you what; we'd want to improve or we'll be in serious trouble on the scoreboard.

At least our scrum is doing well.


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Post by thebluesmancometh Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:20 pm

Notch, it'll take them a few more mins but they'll get there

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Post by thebluesmancometh Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:22 pm

Who's the Ulster 9 guys?

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Post by Notch Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:22 pm

First points; crucial moment for us.
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Post by Notch Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:22 pm

It's Paul Marshall.
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Post by thebluesmancometh Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:24 pm

Oh dear... here we go

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Post by Notch Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:24 pm

That could and should be yellow, surely we had the overlap?
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Post by thebluesmancometh Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:24 pm

Marshall? Who's he?

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Post by thebluesmancometh Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:26 pm

This is the prob when you get a bit shaky at scrum time, it takes twice as much effort to prove your scrum is strong again, but teams target you more and more.

Fillise gotta go!

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Post by Notch Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:26 pm

Big carry from Big Nick Williams here please!
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Post by thebluesmancometh Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:28 pm

Allen pinged for offside??? Well ref has to go by the letter of the law I suppose

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Post by Notch Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:29 pm

Are we getting penalised because a badly injured player didn't get back in time?

Those 3 points are hard to swallow, very unlucky.
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Post by MrsP Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:30 pm

That can't be right?

Off side because you can't walk?

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Post by JmD Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:30 pm

That's the kind of decision that separates the good referees from the bad referees, poor.

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Post by thebluesmancometh Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:30 pm

Notch he does turn to face the Blues player mind...

Said perfectly by comentator though, by the letter of the law correct, by the spirit of the game very very poor!

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Post by Notch Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:32 pm

Tom James is sharp, but a few times he's cut us up and then missed the easy pass which would have had us in serious trouble.
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Post by thebluesmancometh Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:32 pm

Tom James mun!!!!!

He does everything but give the ball for the try, he is big quick and very strong, but the guy has no rugby brain at all!!!

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Post by MMC Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:33 pm

Nick Williams has got to be the most frustrating player out there...
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Post by thebluesmancometh Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:34 pm

MMC no chance, Tom James is just as bad

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Post by Notch Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:34 pm

He's always looking for the Sonny Bill offload in one hand- be patient man! Use your size and present it, we'll get quick ball off it.
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Post by Morgannwg Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:35 pm

Usual weaknesses from the Blues (scrum and Tom James' awareness). Good game though and good advert for the Rabo.
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Post by thebluesmancometh Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:36 pm

Court has just bought that pen off the ref... The Blues scrum isn't all that bad but they get the rough end now for being weak end of last season

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Post by thebluesmancometh Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:39 pm

See now knowing Fillisse can't get caught again Court has just bored straight in on him!!!

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Post by thebluesmancometh Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:39 pm

Thats a BS try, Robinson tackles the lock, holds his leg while he gets back up and plays on!!!

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Post by Morgannwg Fri 28 Sep 2012, 7:40 pm

The no.6 looked as if he was tackled then but he got back up and carried on going forward?should have been a penalty. Ulster's forwards dominating and creating lots of space for their backs.
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