European club seedings : official vs alternatives
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European club seedings : official vs alternatives
Without wanting to create yet another sectarian debate, European seedings are based solely on European competition and take no account of form in domestic leagues.
As a long-term recipient of weekly mails (some of which I open) from http://www.eurorugby.com , side rankings always appear to me to be reasonably rational.
http://www.eurorugby.com
But the calculations are simple taking some 30 previous games into account.
http://www.eurorugby.com/modules.php?name=Rdesc
To my mind, rolling up both league and cup form with the weightings applied makes a lot better sense than anything the ERC magic mushroom fed calculation.
If, as the competitions are inevitably are going to be reformed, so should the seedings calculation.
To provide an example (as the site is down/thinking/waiting/got the bailiffs in) , I paste up my most version.
I had a quick look (outside my normal one-eyed local interest).
For instance Edinburgh is not in the current top twenty which seems right.
But fear not. When the HEC pool draws, they would have been!
1 Leinster Ireland 100.00 no change
2 Toulon France 94.79 no change
3 Toulouse France 89.52 no change
4 ASM Clermont Auvergne France 89.04 no change
5 Ulster Ireland 89.00 no change
6 Leicester Tigers England 84.89 no change
7 Saracens England 80.10 no change
8 Harlequins England 79.79 up 1
9 Northampton Saints England 74.21 down 1
10 Castres Olympique France 72.02 up 4
11 Ospreys Wales 71.95 down 1
12 Montpellier France 71.50 no change
13 Munster Ireland 69.69 up 2
14 Biarritz Olympique France 69.25 down 1
15 Glasgow Warriors Scotland 68.50 down 4
16 Racing Metro 92 France 64.40 no change
17 Scarlets Wales 64.20 no change
18 Gloucester England 61.57 up 1
19 Bayonne France 59.62 up 2
20 Exeter Chiefs England 58.34 down 2
[ed] for reference the current official mescaline-induced ERC rankings http://www.ercrugby.com/eng/ranking.php
As a long-term recipient of weekly mails (some of which I open) from http://www.eurorugby.com , side rankings always appear to me to be reasonably rational.
http://www.eurorugby.com
But the calculations are simple taking some 30 previous games into account.
http://www.eurorugby.com/modules.php?name=Rdesc
To my mind, rolling up both league and cup form with the weightings applied makes a lot better sense than anything the ERC magic mushroom fed calculation.
If, as the competitions are inevitably are going to be reformed, so should the seedings calculation.
To provide an example (as the site is down/thinking/waiting/got the bailiffs in) , I paste up my most version.
I had a quick look (outside my normal one-eyed local interest).
For instance Edinburgh is not in the current top twenty which seems right.
But fear not. When the HEC pool draws, they would have been!
1 Leinster Ireland 100.00 no change
2 Toulon France 94.79 no change
3 Toulouse France 89.52 no change
4 ASM Clermont Auvergne France 89.04 no change
5 Ulster Ireland 89.00 no change
6 Leicester Tigers England 84.89 no change
7 Saracens England 80.10 no change
8 Harlequins England 79.79 up 1
9 Northampton Saints England 74.21 down 1
10 Castres Olympique France 72.02 up 4
11 Ospreys Wales 71.95 down 1
12 Montpellier France 71.50 no change
13 Munster Ireland 69.69 up 2
14 Biarritz Olympique France 69.25 down 1
15 Glasgow Warriors Scotland 68.50 down 4
16 Racing Metro 92 France 64.40 no change
17 Scarlets Wales 64.20 no change
18 Gloucester England 61.57 up 1
19 Bayonne France 59.62 up 2
20 Exeter Chiefs England 58.34 down 2
[ed] for reference the current official mescaline-induced ERC rankings http://www.ercrugby.com/eng/ranking.php
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Re: European club seedings : official vs alternatives
'paraently not maes.
Is that fair?
That's for you to judge.
Is that fair?
That's for you to judge.
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