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On another note, have you guys ever seen the 'alternative rugby commentary'? My NZ family introduced me to him a couple years back, the guys is a ferking legend, very very funny

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cny1i4qyyMo

Bathite the thing is, if you have players which are rated high on there it might change ratings in your favour :L

Jarrad?

Not really concerned about my NZ players mate, they are all top top drawer and of undeniable quality!

Unless I have misunderstood your point?


But this lock choice is making me do my nut. Im faced with that same old dilemma, I know who i like, but need your opinions, as you lot do the predictions!

Burgess even though he is going off form probably wouldn't start anyway, but he is much better than Phipps.

Rokocoko, Williams and Sivivatu are still good players and would be rated if they came from another country I don't rate Williams though but you can see where im coming from, but the fact they have players like Gear, Jane, Guildford and Ranger now, Rokocoko and Sivivatu will degrade down the pecking order just because those in the Gear catergory are younger and better.

Same as lock Chris Jack is fantastic and so is Anthony Boric, but Thorn, Donnolly and Whitelock you could class as streets ahead. Thorn and Whitelock is some partnership in my view.

Just another name Alister Hargreaves for you Bathite, South African who has been one of the best performers for the Sharks this season, same applies to South Africa as well with depth at lock Hargreaves, Van der Merwe are class but when you have Matfield, Botha and Bekker in your way you will have to do insanely well to start or even make the bench.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tuSpIyHIDc&NR=1

Genius!

Just reporting what the Aussie press is saying.

Are you saying players are ranked according to country. Do people consider Guildford/Maitland better.

i think doc is good but to get the best you may need POC

I think he is saying that its only cos NZ have such an embarrassment of riches that the likes of Rock get down rated. He would walk into most int teams. If he is saying that, I would agree with him!

Look at Waldrom!

Bathite wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tuSpIyHIDc&NR=1

Genius!

you not come across jed yet - he might be doing red button commentary on the bbc for wales v baabaas - hes a legend!!!

Bathite wrote:On another note, have you guys ever seen the 'alternative rugby commentary'? My NZ family introduced me to him a couple years back, the guys is a ferking legend, very very funny

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cny1i4qyyMo

Now stop talking about POC/DOC!!!

yeah he's legendary - i subscribed to his blog but its been off air for ages the lazy pisshead!!!

however check the bbc for wales v baa baas - think hes doing it on the red button

I consider Guildford as a top eight winger in the world right now the guy is incredible, same applies to Maitland but he has just come on the scene done very well but still has years to mature into a real threat. Guildford is just getting better and better and is having a very good year, I wouldn't have him starting for New Zealand but certainly on the bench. It's just so hard to pick a New Zealand 22, you would be like Whitelock with Thorn erm no Donnoly with Thorn or Gear and Guildford on the wings but then you will change your mind to Jane. New Zealand have four possible full-backs, Jane, Toeava, Dagg and Muliaina, that's how hard it is and at centre aswell Nonu, Smith, McAlister, Sonny B and Fruean you just wouldn't know where to start, fly-half aswell what back-up to take Donald, Slade or Brett?

Just so so hard for us to pick let alone Graham Henry.

And sorry to give you another name Bathite, I could give you more like Simmons if you like.

I don't rate Guildford as high as Maitland. Don't hugely rate Jane at FB. Freaun according to that article seems not to be going WC which to me is mad

No worries Blogs, I have a long list, just those 3 at the top.

Kahui in possession of the shirt and covers OC/WG, so needs to be playing really bad to lose it IMO.

Think Freaun is quite a bit better than Kahui tbh.

Kahui is quality mate - fruean is probably just as good. Kahui unlucky that he's been behind nonu and smith then SBW comes along as well

Freaun always seems better than SBW when I see them together

Kahui is pants and won't get in above Fruean if he does I will be very very shocked and surprised.

You don't rate Guildford is a bit stupid aswell if you ask me, the kid is one of the best talents in New Zealand at the moment along with Whitelock at lock and Sonny B and Fruean as centres and Maitland all Crusaders players

Guildford and Maitland are class, I think Guildford is getting better and better while Maitland has also been up there amongst the top Super 15 performers but he is just coming onto the scene and World Cup will be too early for him, can see Guildford and Maitland being the New Zealand first choice wingers in four years time though.

Did I say I rate him?
Maitland has been playing consistently in S15/14 as it was then for longer than Maitland

RowleyFox wrote:Kahui is pants and won't get in above Fruean if he does I will be very very shocked and surprised.
h.

blogs stop talking utter S H I T E

Fruean seems better when I have seen them play also, but Sonny B just bounces through defences very hard to stop and his offloading skills are incredible, but we have talked about him before and it got boring.

Fruean is a real talent and if New Zealand didn't have Smith, Freuan would of made that 13 shirt his own due to his performances this year.

But like I said it is too hard to pick a New Zealand 11, a 22 and a whole squad if you ask me.

jeeese - Fruean is good but he will only be considered as teh partnership for SBW which is a great one.

Nonu, Smith, SBW & Kahui are likely ot go with fruean outside chance - don't get me wrong fruean is very good!

Im not talking rubbish that's my opinion Kahui isn't good and Fruean is much better, Fruean has been real class everyone will say the same thing on here apart from you probably Hon because you haven't watched the Crusaders.

watched them plenty thanks mate - have been streaming their mathces live - particulalry like the game against the highlanders . . . .

and Kahui is not rubbish you muppet

crusaders are not invincible - fruean and sbw partnership is awaesome but you can't stand there and say Kahui is dog toffee when he's a quality player/

Too suggest Kahui is rubbish is a rather strong opinion Rowley.

I would have Fruean just above Kahui.

I expect the NZ centres in the WC to be Freaun, SBW, Nonu and Smith with SBW and Smith taking the field with the starting XV.

With Gear and Jane on the wings.

Kahui really hasn't done much this season though compared to other New Zealand centres, not forgetting a player Bathite usually mentions in Benson Stanley.

Nonu has been off form, Fruean and Sonny B on form, Smith has been his useful self. Gear and Jane is some force but it's just too hard, as Jane has played full-back most of the time for Hurricanes this season.

I just don't rate Kahui he doesn't do enough for me, when players like Fruean, Sonny B and Smith have much better skills overall, McAlister has been excellent this season but I believe he wouldn't get in the New Zealand side.

lets just agree that the AB's are spoilt for blooming choice with quality players!!

RIGHT
wheres is:

Pooly for siging off foreign
Driver for getting back to me on our possible deal
FLuxy as above

Im off for the night anyway. You can delete my team from the homepage I also changed my players from the bear deal last night.

Tv then out for the evening

so bear will be on in about 10 minutes then?

hold on why are you changing players without bears permsission - you guys put that deal through?

IMO...

Back 3 - Mils, Dagg, Jane, Sivi, Gear

Centre - SBW, Nonu, Smith, Kahui

Think Toeava will miss out, with injury meaning he's likely out of the TN. Kahui/Fruean is tight. 

Isn't Dagg injured?

Sure he said he hopes to be back by end of July or something.

Dagg would go with one leg, crazy talent.

They will take Kahui, or Ranger. Both cover centres and wings.

Dagg and Jane can play anywhere in back three so not short there. Can't see Ranger going.

Ranger has had a pretty solid and decent season. Kahui has picked up as the season has gone on. I can't see Henry picking Freuan with his lack of caps compared to those two.

Ben Smith is the rumoured call for FB....with Jane/Gear on the wings.

I wouldn't be suprised with that one, Robbie Robinson perhaps?

I think i may have an issue with my side . . . pack is pretty rocking I think with decent back bar 2nd row

what do you guys think I should do with my backs?

Would say Toeava is more likely than Smith. He's been awesome this season at FB.

Him and Smith have been great, Toeava's power or Smiths lines and feet? All about balance I guess, both can cover wing and fullback so will be tight. Mils has really skipped this season.

End of some greats....Matfield, Bakkies, Mils, Roko, Jauzion, Du Preez (maybe less so)

Cant see Smith getting ahead of Dagg and Mils unless injury occurs.

Can't seen them not taking Freuan. Gives them a form combo that works well outside Carter as an option. That's the sort of thing national coaches must dream of

Stop slating Du Preez you, I'm not selling

Think Jauzion is a real victim of bad management.

Some, there are a few more; Servat probably won't make another WC, Nallet, Hari, S Williams, S Jones, Sharpe, BOD, O'Gara.

I reckon Bakies will make one more being only 31

dont know hari will be 33/34 he might.

wilkinsons last one i guess

He'll be 35 by time of the next one