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Post by wales606 Fri 16 Nov 2012, 3:46 pm

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Scarlets: Liam Williams, Kristian Phillips, Gareth Maule, Gareth Owen, Andy Fenby, Dan Newton, Rhodri Williams; Shaun Hopkins, Kirby Myhill, Samson Lee, Jake Ball, Johan Snyman, Craig Price, Johnathan Edwards (capt), Kieran Murphy.
Replacements: Emyr Phillips, Phil John, Jacobie Adriaanse, Joel Galley, Dan Thomas, Gareth Davies, Aled Thomas, Nick Reynolds.

Cardiff Blues: Dan Fish, Harry Robinson, Owen Williams, Gavin Evans, Tom James, Gareth Davies, Robert Lewis; Sam Hobbs, Marc Breeze, Ryan Harford, Macauley Cook, James Down, Luke Hamilton, Thomas Young, Andries Pretorius.
Replacements: Rhys Williams, Campese Mafu'u, Foa Filise, Cory Hill, Rory Watts-Jones, Lloyd Williams, Ceri Sweeney, Rhys Patchell.

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The Blues have made 8 changes. Interestingly, Patchell returns from injury on the bench, but it looks like he is covering centre

Sweeney stays on the bench despite coming off the bench and winning the game for the Blues last week - Davies clearly isn't picking his strongest team in the only competition we have left to win.

Fairly strong Scarlets lineup with some talented backs, they might be weak in the forwards though, but I expect Lee to give them the stronger scrum.

Should be a pretty close game.
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Post by Smirnoffpriest Fri 16 Nov 2012, 6:15 pm

Why isnt dan thomas in the team? Grr. Great to have samson back but its a bit of a shame as adriaanse needs gametime b4 the hec and xmas derbies. Think our front 5 could edge the blues' but ur backrow is much better. Good to see patchell back but where is stodds?

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Post by wales606 Fri 16 Nov 2012, 6:32 pm

I think the Blues could miss Navidi and Copeland in the backrow.

The front 5 don't look great - Cook was lightweight last season, and Hill was prefered (and did well) so it will be interesting to see Cook at lock. Hobbs and Breeze will give a bit of grunt up front, not so sure about Hartford.

I can't really call this game one way or the other, perhaps the Blues replacements (especially the forwards) will edge it for them.


Also, just noticed Lloyd Williams on the bench...pleasantly surprised they haven't started him - Haven't seen much of Rob Lewis yet, so it will be interesting to see how he goes.


The game is on S4C tomorrow by the way.
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Post by Smirnoffpriest Fri 16 Nov 2012, 8:31 pm

Yup it should b a close game, im hoping our backs edge it (such a shame jordan williams and rhodri jones r injured tho). Am going down so hopefully it wont b too cold

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Post by thebluesmancometh Sat 17 Nov 2012, 6:31 pm

Looking forward to this game, think it could be very interesting. Why no Dacey or Allen for the Blues thoough??


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Post by wales606 Sat 17 Nov 2012, 6:34 pm

thebluesmancometh wrote:Looking forward to this game, think it could be very interesting. Why no Dacey or Allen for the Blues thoough??


O.Williams seems to be prefered and Rhys Williams is having a good run of games.
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Post by wales606 Sat 17 Nov 2012, 6:38 pm

Blues giving away a lot of penalties in the first 5 minutes.

Gareth Owen takes the first kickable one

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Post by Smirnoffpriest Sat 17 Nov 2012, 6:38 pm

Gareth owen taking early kick for some reason, very poor kick tho

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Post by Smirnoffpriest Sat 17 Nov 2012, 6:39 pm

He gets that kick tho. Davies is having a bad game tho

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Post by thebluesmancometh Sat 17 Nov 2012, 6:39 pm

Typical Cardiff start, silly errors all over the place.

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Post by thebluesmancometh Sat 17 Nov 2012, 6:41 pm

1 scrum 1 pen mad

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Post by thebluesmancometh Sat 17 Nov 2012, 6:43 pm

Davies isn't good enough to lace MY boots Very Happy

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Post by wales606 Sat 17 Nov 2012, 6:49 pm

I leave the room for 2 seconds and come back to Hamilton sprinting over the line

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Post by Shifty Sat 17 Nov 2012, 6:51 pm

I can just about squeeze in 606v2 onto my screen, I have Ireland V Fiji, on the top right, Scarlets V Blues bottom right, with Israel V Gaza top left, and 606 bottom left.

Nice to see the young lads having a go Smile
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Post by thebluesmancometh Sat 17 Nov 2012, 6:53 pm

No posession, no territory, no quality, then that try... like you wales I was having a poo, I mean left the room Laugh

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Post by wales606 Sat 17 Nov 2012, 6:53 pm

Who's winning Israel vs Gaza? Very Happy
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Post by thebluesmancometh Sat 17 Nov 2012, 6:54 pm

Is it me or are the refs whistles deceptive, whistle correctly will you!!!!

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Post by Shifty Sat 17 Nov 2012, 6:57 pm

wales606 wrote:Who's winning Israel vs Gaza? Very Happy

Israel 40 - 3 Gaza according to latest body counts.

Quite sad really, their arguing over religion and land again, when we all know it's the Mormons who have things correct, I know because they said do on South Park. Rolling Eyes
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Post by thebluesmancometh Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:01 pm

Sam Hobbs you plank, it wasnt dirty just unnecesary, why put your shoulder in at all!!!?

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Post by wales606 Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:03 pm

Shifty wrote:
wales606 wrote:Who's winning Israel vs Gaza? Very Happy

Israel 40 - 3 Gaza according to latest body counts.

Quite sad really, their arguing over religion and land again, when we all know it's the Mormons who have things correct, I know because they said do on South Park. Rolling Eyes

I don't like to see 3rd tier nations getting 40 put on them by a big power. It's completely unfair, the UN should intervene to ensure that both have equal access to ballistic missile - but I can't see it happening while the third world nations don't have the financial capital. I also think it is completely unfair that Israel clearly had a lot more preparation time for this war.
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Post by wales606 Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:04 pm

Hobbs yellow carded, but the Blues backs are still full of running.

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Post by wales606 Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:06 pm

3 - 13

Scarlets not taking advantage of the extra man yet.
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Post by wales606 Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:07 pm

Blues really trying to run everything...probably for the best with Gareth Davies on the field.
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Post by thebluesmancometh Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:08 pm

Blues attack play has been lovely so far, fair play!!

And theyve done this thing a couple of times where they are tackled and when on the floor or their feet they throw the ball to their own man into a bit of space? WHAT IS THAT?

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Post by wales606 Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:09 pm

Scarlets taking a scrum with a penalty 10M out. Blues need to hold out
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Post by wales606 Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:10 pm

thebluesmancometh wrote:Blues attack play has been lovely so far, fair play!!

And theyve done this thing a couple of times where they are tackled and when on the floor or their feet they throw the ball to their own man into a bit of space? WHAT IS THAT?

It must be confusing, try watching Leinster or the All Black more often Wink
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Post by thebluesmancometh Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:10 pm

Tom James looks sharp again, and very eager to both makes yards and tackle (and spin way too much)

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Post by thebluesmancometh Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:10 pm

Laugh

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Post by wales606 Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:10 pm

Campese Ma'afu looks exhausted running onto the pitch.
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Post by wales606 Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:11 pm

Penalty try on the first offence :/

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Post by Shifty Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:11 pm

Great scrum from the Scarlets there.
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Post by thebluesmancometh Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:11 pm

Why is it only the Blues ever get a pen try first time of asking 10 metres out, don't tell me reputations aren't in the refs minds!!!

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Post by Morgannwg Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:12 pm

So who's getting called up for the NZ game then?
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Post by thebluesmancometh Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:12 pm

Davies you twap!!!

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Post by wales606 Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:12 pm

thebluesmancometh wrote:Why is it only the Blues ever get a pen try first time of asking 10 metres out, don't tell me reputations aren't in the refs minds!!!

Yep, very odd decision - after 2 or 3 attempts, not after the first which should be a penalty.
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Post by wales606 Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:14 pm

Morgannwg wrote:So who's getting called up for the NZ game then?

Patchell when he gets off the bench Wink - we need a flyhalf from somewhere after Preistland, Howley and Hook disappear mysteriously... Whistle
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Post by Shifty Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:14 pm

It's because the Blues were going backwards at a rate of knots and collapsed it, if they didnt pull it down they were going over their try line.

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Post by thebluesmancometh Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:14 pm

Exact same scrummage, Harford is being board into and Breeze is ending up on his back under Mafi's legs???

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Post by wales606 Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:15 pm

G.Davies kicks the restart dead - Scrum - Penalty.

Stupid

Why do we have our 4th choice fly half on the pitch and our 1st and 2nd on the bench?
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Post by Morgannwg Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:16 pm

wales606 wrote:
Morgannwg wrote:So who's getting called up for the NZ game then?

Patchell when he gets off the bench Wink - we need a flyhalf from somewhere after Preistland, Howley and Hook disappear mysteriously... Whistle

To be fair to the ginge he has shown all the attributes you'd want; the complete fly-half like Dan Carter is. Hope he progresses.

I was hoping to see Rhodri Williams(or G.Davies) and Liam Williams in the 23 against NZ myself.
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Post by wales606 Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:16 pm

Rob Lewis takes a quick tap and passes to the Scarlets Doh

Luckily Owen Williams is pacy enough to catch the Scarlets winger - but its still a Scarlet penalty.
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Post by thebluesmancometh Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:16 pm

What a recovery tackle, Fenbys no slouch and looked like a lock then!!!

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Post by wales606 Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:18 pm

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wales606 wrote:
Morgannwg wrote:So who's getting called up for the NZ game then?

Patchell when he gets off the bench Wink - we need a flyhalf from somewhere after Preistland, Howley and Hook disappear mysteriously... Whistle

To be fair to the ginge he has shown all the attributes you'd want; the complete fly-half like Dan Carter is. Hope he progresses.

I was hoping to see Rhodri Williams(or G.Davies) and Liam Williams in the 23 against NZ myself.

Unlikely at SH - Mike Phillips will play 80 minutes hopefully.

13 - 13 at HT.
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Post by Morgannwg Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:18 pm

wales606 wrote:Rob Lewis takes a quick tap and passes to the Scarlets Doh

Luckily Owen Williams is pacy enough to catch the Scarlets winger - but its still a Scarlet penalty.

How do you rate Owen? Surely it's time he was in the Rabo Pro 12 team with Roberts on his way, same can be said about Corey Allen.
Cory Hill is better than your 2nd rows starting the game tonight (imo).
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Post by wales606 Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:23 pm

Morgannwg wrote:
wales606 wrote:Rob Lewis takes a quick tap and passes to the Scarlets Doh

Luckily Owen Williams is pacy enough to catch the Scarlets winger - but its still a Scarlet penalty.

How do you rate Owen? Surely it's time he was in the Rabo Pro 12 team with Roberts on his way, same can be said about Corey Allen.
Cory Hill is better than your 2nd rows starting the game tonight (imo).

I think O.Williams or Allen need to be given a chance.

I don't understand starting Cook over Hill based on the last time I saw the two (which was a while ago to be fair)

I also don't understand not starting our 1st team in the only competition we can win.
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Post by wales606 Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:33 pm

Good penalty from Davies to be fair

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Post by wales606 Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:35 pm

Filise and Lloyd Williams on. Filise should improve the team at least, we will have to see with Williams.
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Post by wales606 Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:40 pm

A good kick and some poor defence from Fish almost gives the Scarlets a try

Good scramble defence

Scarlets scrum 15M out though, I hope Filise makes a difference
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Post by wales606 Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:41 pm

Penalty Blues Very Happy
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Post by wales606 Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:49 pm

Liam Williams crosses the line, but doesn't look happy - think he lost it forward.
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