hatton support

the guy brought thousands of fans anywhere he boxed. Always remember the hatton v mayweather fight where even at the weigh in there were thousands of hatton fans singing the hatton wonderland song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PweMADtEmWI

I don't think any other fighter in the world has ever brought so many fans not just to weigh ins and fights but to fights in foreign countries half way across the world.

All very true.

I am going to be honest. I need more from this post. Just a question or point of debate.

I just wonder what his support will be like at the weekend. I know you will always get the usual taggers on that will get drunk, sing there's only one Ricky Hatton and not really be bothered about what goes on. But I'm expecting also a lot of trepidation from the genuine fans. No-one knows what to expect so I don't really see it being quite the same atmosphere. Iget the feeling it will be loud but with and under current of nervousness. It still smells of this probably shouldn't be happening, the good times have been and gone

spencerclarke wrote:I just wonder what his support will be like at the weekend. I know you will always get the usual taggers on that will get drunk, sing there's only one Ricky Hatton and not really be bothered about what goes on. But I'm expecting also a lot of trepidation from the genuine fans. No-one knows what to expect so I don't really see it being quite the same atmosphere. Iget the feeling it will be loud but with and under current of nervousness. It still smells of this probably shouldn't be happening, the good times have been and gone

Have they though?

He has only lost 2 fights in a very good career against Mayweather and Pacquiao.

Yeah but his punch resistance was going by the end. Aside from the pacman ko as that would have taken anyone out, he was hurt by fighters who shouldn't have hurt him towards the end. Add to that three years out, boozing, eating, coke, depression and family fallouts. Hardly bodes well. Plus the manner of the ko and his state afterwards would worry me.

That Hatton song ended up getting right on my t*ts in the end, repeated ad nauseum in a drunken monotone drone and reworked for every two bob fighter going with two men and a dog singing it over & over in leisure centres across the country.

Hatton will have his big and vocal support again, don't worry about that. Even here on 606v2, there have been one or two who have speculated that he'll end up getting the mega fights with the likes of Mayweather again, and these are proper fans of the sport. As there were a few years back, there'll be millions of casuals and fly-by followers of the sport who will be ready to believe once again in the Hit Man's invincibility and who will fall in love with Ricky's 'one of the lads, just a normal bloke' routine (ironically as Ricky reminds everyone once again how many times he's been out for a drink with brad Pitt!). America won't buy in to it anymore, but here in Britain he'll retain a lofty status for however many comeback fights he has, I think.

As for the other issues, well I'd be more concerned right now with the possibility of Hatton being made to look slow and cumbersome rather than having his brain rocked all over the shop again; Senchenko is no puncher and, I believe, was picked with that in mind. The more worrying issue is that lack of sharpness, timing and speed, which is to be expected after a lay off lasting forty-two months. He might have enough to get past the Senchenko types, but gun to my head right now I'd say he'd be in a world of trouble against any mover with quick hands.

Lots of questions to be answered this Saturday night, but even more pressing ones after that, I think.

Interesting interview with Ricky from the Mail :

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-2235454/Ricky-Hatton-exclusive-interview--I-want-redeem-myself.html

I didn't realise that he'd fallen out so badly with his parents, his mother was always used to be ringside giving interviews about "Our Richard", I wonder whether that will affect him come fight night?

spencerclarke wrote:Yeah but his punch resistance was going by the end. Aside from the pacman ko as that would have taken anyone out, he was hurt by fighters who shouldn't have hurt him towards the end. Add to that three years out, boozing, eating, coke, depression and family fallouts. Hardly bodes well. Plus the manner of the ko and his state afterwards would worry me.

I dont think his punch resistance was gone, he went up in weight against FMW and took alot of shots before being stopped.. And was caught clean against Manny..

I think people are too harsh on him. He is jumping in with a decent fighter who will pose a threat but one the should not over whelm him.. If he beats him he can asses how hard or easy it was and go from there, its not like he is jumping straight in with FMW..

If he hits form, with FMW and Manning ageing as well, who knows.. But he has not targeted anyone like that yet.

tunes666 wrote:If he hits form, with FMW and Manning ageing as well, who knows.. But he has not targeted anyone like that yet.

Pro Evolution Boxing?

He could always be hit and hurt, and way before he stepped up in class. Eamonn Magee put him on his backside and hurt him badly on another occasion. Vince Phillips had him on queer street after a right uppercut.

In Ricky's 'prime', Tsyzu buzzed him a couple of times, Luis Collazo hurt him badly, even Urango shook him up a touch. Then we all know what Mayweather and Pacquiao did to him. There is no shame in getting hurt when you starting mixing in world title company, but he was always a little more vulnerable than people seem to remember.

He certainly had a decent enough chin but it wasn't shock proof, that is for sure.

tunes666 wrote:

spencerclarke wrote:Yeah but his punch resistance was going by the end. Aside from the pacman ko as that would have taken anyone out, he was hurt by fighters who shouldn't have hurt him towards the end. Add to that three years out, boozing, eating, coke, depression and family fallouts. Hardly bodes well. Plus the manner of the ko and his state afterwards would worry me.

I dont think his punch resistance was gone, he went up in weight against FMW and took alot of shots before being stopped.. And was caught clean against Manny..

I think people are too harsh on him. He is jumping in with a decent fighter who will pose a threat but one the should not over whelm him.. If he beats him he can asses how hard or easy it was and go from there, its not like he is jumping straight in with FMW..

If he hits form, with FMW and Manning ageing as well, who knows.. But he has not targeted anyone like that yet.

I dunno. The weight loss/gain, boozing and years of defending head first take their toll. There were warning signs against Lazcano (a lightweight) that Ricky wasn't taking shots as well as he used to - the next fight was against Paulie who's not only feather fisted but had a shocker that night. Pacquiao caught him clean with the KO punch but every punch he land with hurt Ricky - obviously part of that problem was Ricky sets everything up with the left hook but was facing a quick southpaw that kept beating him to the punch with the right hand (case in point: first knock down), so he may have more success back in with orthadox fighters, but at this stage slicker quicker guys like khan & Paulie (who must be on Ricky's radar) would beat him.

My most vivid memory of the Lazcano fight was that Hatton just kept getting hit with that same punch, over and over and over again. YHe put in a very, very good shift against Malginaggi a few months later, in fairness, but that was the only time he really shone in his last four fights.

I just can't understand this talk of him scaling the pound for pound heights and fighting the Mayweathers of this world for a second time. Just goes to show the influence he still has over British boxing, I suppose, and how much faith he can inspire from his most devout followers.

Talk of him fighting either Manny or Floyd is nonsense to be honest, whilst they may well have slipped a little, you have to think Hatton has the edge on either of them on that front, they have been active and living a fighters lifestyle Ricky most assuredly as not. Couple that with the fact PT Barnum could not sell that one to the American audience and it is not going to happen.

However this does not really matter, Ricky seems fairly sensible about how far this comeback can go and even without having those guys on the horizon he only needs to look reasonably good in a couple of fights and there is a potentially huge fight at a football stadium in the summer against either Brook or Khan, don’t think he beats either of those guys but if he can reach that point and magnitude of fight and event you would have to think he will have achieved everything he was looking to do from this comeback.

Union Cane wrote:Interesting interview with Ricky from the Mail :

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-2235454/Ricky-Hatton-exclusive-interview--I-want-redeem-myself.html

Were you reading Lorraine Candy in 'Femail' when you cam across this?

Anybody else think he might come back and suffer the same sort of performance Naz did against Calvo and call it a day?

Was only a year between Naz's fights with Barerra and Calvo and that was long enough for him to deteriorate enough for him to know it was all over.

Hopefully Hatton comes back, wins, but in a way that shows him the show is over. That way he leave with his rep in tact.

Hatton looks in great shape and will have a big crowd supporting him for his comeback. I think his time away from boxing has actually helped him re-discover his passion for it and alot of people on here will be eating their words come next week!

Gordy wrote:Hatton looks in great shape and will have a big crowd supporting him for his comeback. I think his time away from boxing has actually helped him re-discover his passion for it and alot of people on here will be eating their words come next week!

As Roger Mayweather would say "you dont know s*@t about boxing"

Haha we will see next week, I think it is you who doesnt know his boxing!

Gordy wrote:Haha we will see next week, I think it is you who doesnt know his boxing!

Ok, so we have this on record, what are you predicting?

Hatton will win!

Gordy wrote:Hatton will win!

I agree that he'll win lol, i just dont think he'll look good doing it. This guy is poor enough for this version of Hatton to get by.

From what you said earlier, i was expecting you to say "Hatton will come and blast him out in 3 and look spectacular doing it!"

I think Hatton will knock him out after the first few rounds where he might be a bit rusty but once he settles down he will land some big punches and knock this guy out.

Gordy wrote:I think Hatton will knock him out after the first few rounds where he might be a bit rusty but once he settles down he will land some big punches and knock this guy out.

Fair enough, thats a bolder prediction.

I say that he'll come out, struggle with this guy early, may even get hurt himself. Later on i expecting him to be able to force a stoppage....but it WILL NOT be convincing.

See you on Sunday morning to chop up the result and either give you abuse or doth my hat and accept you were correct.

it'll probably be a draw now

Gordy wrote:Hatton looks in great shape and will have a big crowd supporting him for his comeback. I think his time away from boxing has actually helped him re-discover his passion for it and alot of people on here will be eating their words come next week!

I don't see many people predicting that Hatton won't win on Saturday, so there won't be many people that need to eat their words. What many are saying is that he won't be able to scale any great heights during his comeback like beat a Brook or a Khan, nevermind rematching manny or Floyd. If he does any of that then there will certainly be a lot of people - myself included - eating their words. But please be aware of the difference before you come on here Sunday morning trumpeting the "I told you Hatton would win!" line, because nobody is saying otherwise.

Bartley Gorman wrote:

Gordy wrote:I think Hatton will knock him out after the first few rounds where he might be a bit rusty but once he settles down he will land some big punches and knock this guy out.

Fair enough, thats a bolder prediction.

I say that he'll come out, struggle with this guy early, may even get hurt himself. Later on i expecting him to be able to force a stoppage....but it WILL NOT be convincing.

See you on Sunday morning to chop up the result and either give you abuse or doth my hat and accept you were correct.

Fair enough!

Sugar Boy Sweetie wrote:

Gordy wrote:Hatton looks in great shape and will have a big crowd supporting him for his comeback. I think his time away from boxing has actually helped him re-discover his passion for it and alot of people on here will be eating their words come next week!

I don't see many people predicting that Hatton won't win on Saturday, so there won't be many people that need to eat their words. What many are saying is that he won't be able to scale any great heights during his comeback like beat a Brook or a Khan, nevermind rematching manny or Floyd. If he does any of that then there will certainly be a lot of people - myself included - eating their words. But please be aware of the difference before you come on here Sunday morning trumpeting the "I told you Hatton would win!" line, because nobody is saying otherwise.

I see what you have done there SBS and in your defence it is an easy mistake to make, you seem to have confused what people have actually said on here with what Gordy has chosen to read once he has fed it through that special mental filter he has. Many have questioned how far Hatton will go on this comeback, Gordy has read we think he will lose Saturday, similarly many have said they admire Froch as a fighter, Gordy has read that we universally consider him the best British fighter ever. As I say an easy mistake to make.

most people on here, myself included are employing the wait and see tactic, as i dont think anyone can actually predict how hatton will be, its been too long. his style wouldnt seem to lend itself to longativity and he suffered 2 bad losses. that said they were against the p4p top 2 and he has never lost to anybody else, and has beaten better opposition before.

Come on Gordy... Give us a 'sky hype job' line on hatton. You'll be right for once.

eddyfightfan wrote:most people on here, myself included are employing the wait and see tactic, as i dont think anyone can actually predict how hatton will be, its been too long. his style wouldnt seem to lend itself to longativity and he suffered 2 bad losses. that said they were against the p4p top 2 and he has never lost to anybody else, and has beaten better opposition before.

The writing was on the wall in the Lazcano fight. We all saw that his punch resistance had gone. Malignaggi fight papered over the cracks, but im not expecting too much from Hatton.

He'll win, sure he will, but thats more to do with the level of opposition than to do with what he has left. As somebody wrote earlier, he wouldn't beat a Brook or a Khan.

Forum is very quiet given it is a Hatton fight. Wonder where the footballers go these days?

I think Senchenko could be struggling for this fight, failed to turn up for the press conference today and didn't give a reason. Something tells me he's struggling with weight despite seeing or hearing nothing to confirm this.

People talking about Hattons punch resistance need to have a look at how he took punches earlier in his career compared to the post Mayweather fights, he used to roll with them but after during the Mayweather fights and after he takes a lot more of them flush causing him to get buzzed a litle more than people remember, he never had a granite chin though. Reading interviews with him he puts a lot of this down to Graham not being able to do as much padwork due to his health and Mayweather Snrs reluctance to actually bother with any form of defensive work.

Personally I see Ricky stopping him in the mid rounds, Paulie was able to stop him on due causing enough damage that his eye was swollen shut, Hatton hits a lot harder and while I don't think he will knock him out, if he has 50% of the left hook he used to have he'll cause some damage to Senchenko.

Senchenko is pushing 36 himself, so I do wonder if hes viewing this fight as a kind of retirement booster for himself. This is basically his first meaningful fight outside of Ukraine. I can envisage him becoming discouraged pretty quickly if he doesnt find much success early on or if Hatton makes life uncomfortable for him.

I had a dream last night that the ring girl was climbing onto the ring with a large sign with 3 written on it and halted before the ropes and held a hand to her mouth. Then as I looked to what she was looking at and it was ricky out flat on the canvas surrounded by paramedics with big Frank pushing people to the floor in an attempt to give the paras some breathing space. I couldn't quite make out the opponent as he was at the edge of my vision but the complexion was darker than senchenkos. I hope its not a premonition

ShahenshahG wrote:I had a dream last night that the ring girl was climbing onto the ring with a large sign with 3 written on it and halted before the ropes and held a hand to her mouth. Then as I looked to what she was looking at and it was ricky out flat on the canvas surrounded by paramedics with big Frank pushing people to the floor in an attempt to give the paras some breathing space. I couldn't quite make out the opponent as he was at the edge of my vision but the complexion was darker than senchenkos. I hope its not a premonition

Big Frank retired a while back.

If ricky is surrounded by paramedics - I'd assume the fight was over

Anyone watch the Hatton documentary last night? I noticed Senchenko appeared to be limping as he was walking through Manchester airport, then it showed some footage of him hitting the pads but he was fairly static throughout, then it showed him at Old Traffird and he appeared to me to be limping again. My imagination? Does he walk with a limp?

Bartley Gorman wrote:

Gordy wrote:Haha we will see next week, I think it is you who doesnt know his boxing!

Ok, so we have this on record, what are you predicting?

Any fighter that has not been in the ring for over three years is going to come back rusty, so it would be unfair not to give him some slack there..

I think he will win when with an ok but rusty performance, but he will know if he can get things rolling or not.

Regardless of whether he can come back to form or not, he should not be expected to do it in one fight, especially against decent opposition.

tunes666 wrote:

Bartley Gorman wrote:

Gordy wrote:Haha we will see next week, I think it is you who doesnt know his boxing!

Ok, so we have this on record, what are you predicting?

Any fighter that has not been in the ring for over three years is going to come back rusty, so it would be unfair not to give him some slack there..

I think he will win when with an ok but rusty performance, but he will know if he can get things rolling or not.

Regardless of whether he can come back to form or not, he should not be expected to do it in one fight, especially against decent opposition.

Correct, we should not expect Hatton to be straight back to his old self immediately. I think it will take a few rounds to get used to it again like footballers getting match fit. But after a few rounds I think he will start to dominate and will knock this guy out!

Gordy wrote:

tunes666 wrote:

Bartley Gorman wrote:

Gordy wrote:Haha we will see next week, I think it is you who doesnt know his boxing!

Ok, so we have this on record, what are you predicting?

Any fighter that has not been in the ring for over three years is going to come back rusty, so it would be unfair not to give him some slack there..

I think he will win when with an ok but rusty performance, but he will know if he can get things rolling or not.

Regardless of whether he can come back to form or not, he should not be expected to do it in one fight, especially against decent opposition.

Correct, we should not expect Hatton to be straight back to his old self immediately. I think it will take a few rounds to get used to it again like footballers getting match fit. But after a few rounds I think he will start to dominate and will knock this guy out!

Not sure ricky could be any more like Gazza as it is - don't encourage him