Are Wales the worst granslam champions ever?

Since Wales won the grandslam tey have lost 5 games on the bounce, soon to be six games as its almost a dead cert NZ will win tomorow. Not only that they were played off the park by both Argentina and a tier 2 nation in Samoa who fully deserved their win at the home of Welsh rugby.
It is quite possible Wales could end up with the wooden spoon come the 6 nations.
Are Wales the worst grandslam champions ever?
Please note I don't want any wumming on this thread.

LAZY POST
My suggestion would be for you to do a little bit of research say the last 25-30 years and see if other GS sides have lost as many games, then provide your own assessment by comparing the GS sides. Then perhaps the rest of us might take this potentially inflamatory post a little bit more serious.

They lost three games to Australia down in Oz in the narrowest of margins over three games, they all were good performances, and ok they have been poor over the last two games but hey that happens to the best of teams.

Best of luck Wales, lets hope you give the All Blacks a great game on the weekend

wrfc1980 wrote:Since Wales won the grandslam tey have lost 5 games on the bounce, soon to be six games as its almost a dead cert NZ will win tomorow. Not only that they were played off the park by both Argentina and a tier 2 nation in Samoa who fully deserved their win at the home of Welsh rugby.
It is quite possible Wales could end up with the wooden spoon come the 6 nations.
Are Wales the worst grandslam champions ever?
Please note I don't want any wumming on this thread.

I thought they were worthy champions actually.

I think it says far more about the rubbish state of Euro Rugby than anything else...

No Wales are very worthy Grandslam champions... comfortably the best side in the NH last season.

This is a new season and it's a clean slate, but they are fully deserving of any plaudits they've recieved to date.

To be fair on Wales theyve only had two bad games. We can ignore the Baabaas game, its not a proper test regardless of the caps they give out.

Yeah, Wales deserved their 6 Nations win.

This season is a completely different kettle of fish though. They're probably the 6Ns side in the worst form (taking nothing away from Samoa are Argentina). A decent performance against NZ and losing by less then 20 or 30 would be an upturn in their fortunes.

Would you say they were worse than Italy Cyril?

Worst form relative to what they are capable of yes.

It is the kind of turnaround that only France and Wales are capable of though.

From what i've seen of the Italy v NZ game, Italy didnt look half bad at all. Are we still classing Italy as an easy team to beat?

I think 'Granslamming' should be illegal. Poor grannies, the Welsh should know better, no respect these days.

If the grans in question are up for it, why should they be denied a good boffing in their twilight years?

Also, having no teeth could be seen as an advantage in some areas.

Rubbish post, look at NZ now and NZ in the RWC, NZ are much better now than in the RWC, France should have won the final but the ref would not give them a penalty they deserved in the last 5 mins. France played poorly for most of the RWC competition and were lucky against Wales to get to the final.

Coleman wrote:From what i've seen of the Italy v NZ game, Italy didnt look half bad at all. Are we still classing Italy as an easy team to beat?

Are we classing them as a team that wouldnt get beaten by Argentina and Samoa?

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:If the grans in question are up for it, why should they be denied a good boffing in their twilight years?

Also, having no teeth could be seen as an advantage in some areas.

What grannies get up to in the privacy of their own homes is fair enough. But i just feel that professional Gran Slamming has somehow lost the romance of the amateur days.

I can remember turning up at the secluded car park on a frosty November morning watching the grannies lubing up. Ready for a good slamming. Those days are gone now, it's all about performance enhancement these days. Real shame.

Effervescing Elephant wrote:I can remember turning up at the secluded car park on a frosty November morning watching the grannies lubing up. Ready for a good slamming.

This is wrong!

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:

Effervescing Elephant wrote:I can remember turning up at the secluded car park on a frosty November morning watching the grannies lubing up. Ready for a good slamming.

This is wrong!

Yet it FEELS right!

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:Would you say they were worse than Italy Cyril?

Worst form relative to what they are capable of yes.

It is the kind of turnaround that only France and Wales are capable of though.

No, not worse than Italy but, as you say, in relative terms their form is worse. Italy are performing at par at the moment I'd say. Wales would still probably have beaten them (at home) over the last couple of weekends if they had played.

Effervescing Elephant wrote:

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:

Effervescing Elephant wrote:I can remember turning up at the secluded car park on a frosty November morning watching the grannies lubing up. Ready for a good slamming.

This is wrong!

Yet it FEELS right!

I like to pleasure them with their walking sticks.

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:

Effervescing Elephant wrote:

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:

Effervescing Elephant wrote:I can remember turning up at the secluded car park on a frosty November morning watching the grannies lubing up. Ready for a good slamming.

This is wrong!

Yet it FEELS right!

I like to pleasure them with their walking sticks.

That's the spirit!

And you don't need to worry about contraception.

Whaaaaat!

How did we get to this? Oh, well it's in the article title I guess

Perhaps Wayne Rooney might want to add his opinion to this thread

One of our nations finest Gran Slammers is Mr Rooney.

Wales were worthy champions but they probably werent the most convincing champions of all time as they scraped past England and Ireland and ground out a win v France. A win is a win but they rode their luck a bit in a couple of games. So perhaps the slam flattered them a bit but they are definitely better than 6 losses in a row.

To be fair, in some places the grannies arent actually that old at all, all it takes is 2 generations of teenage pregnacies...

I think some Welsh posters have forgotten that, GunsGerms. We didn't exactly swashbuckle our way to the Grand Slam.

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:I think some Welsh posters have forgotten that, GunsGerms. We didn't exactly swashbuckle our way to the Grand Slam.

No but Wales were impressive in many ways none the less and they are definitely better than 6 losses in a row.

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:I think some Welsh posters have forgotten that, GunsGerms. We didn't exactly swashbuckle our way to the Grand Slam.

I don't get LP.... because North, Roberts and Davies are more adept at running through defences than round them that in some way devalues Wales slam?

I thought Wales were comfortable enough winners to be honest. They entered the tournament as favourites and never really looked like not taking the title once they won in Dublin.

glamorganalun wrote:Rubbish post, look at NZ now and NZ in the RWC, NZ are much better now than in the RWC, France should have won the final but the ref would not give them a penalty they deserved in the last 5 mins. France played poorly for most of the RWC competition and were lucky against Wales to get to the final.

They got the penalty. It's just that they didn't kick the goal.

How are NZ much better now than in the RWC? They were unbeaten then and unbeaten this year. Carter is out again this weekend and there's a gap back to the flyhalves we have available. We lost Brad Thorn and Jerome Kaino and we're still struggling in this area to some extent.

rodders wrote:

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:I think some Welsh posters have forgotten that, GunsGerms. We didn't exactly swashbuckle our way to the Grand Slam.

I don't get LP.... because North, Roberts and Davies are more adept at running through defences than round them that in some way devalues Wales slam?

I thought Wales were comfortable enough winners to be honest. They entered the tournament as favourites and never really looked like not taking the title once they won in Dublin.

Rodders, what I meant was that we we didn't run away with any of the Six Nations matches. If you listened to some Welsh posters here, you'd think we were a class above everyone else when the truth is we weren't.

Wales are a very good side, with a huge amount of talent within their relatively young squad. As a team, they have a promising future. I just think at the moment, they are in a rut, and need a real confidence booster to blast out of it. Their potential is unquestionable.

rodders wrote:

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:I think some Welsh posters have forgotten that, GunsGerms. We didn't exactly swashbuckle our way to the Grand Slam.

I don't get LP.... because North, Roberts and Davies are more adept at running through defences than round them that in some way devalues Wales slam?

I thought Wales were comfortable enough winners to be honest. They entered the tournament as favourites and never really looked like not taking the title once they won in Dublin.

Rodders, they were a disallowed try v England away from missing out on a slam. They didnt exactly blast France aside either.

GunsGerms wrote:

rodders wrote:

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:I think some Welsh posters have forgotten that, GunsGerms. We didn't exactly swashbuckle our way to the Grand Slam.

I don't get LP.... because North, Roberts and Davies are more adept at running through defences than round them that in some way devalues Wales slam?

I thought Wales were comfortable enough winners to be honest. They entered the tournament as favourites and never really looked like not taking the title once they won in Dublin.

Rodders, they were a disallowed try v England away from missing out on a slam. They didnt exactly blast France aside either.

Because it wasn't a try. If it was scored there was no gaurantee it would have been converted. Pure envy of the 'grand slammers'....

Morgannwg, I'm Welsh and I agree with GunsGerms. Does that mean I'm envious of my own national side's success?

No it makes you the usual pedant that agrees with every single English person that slags off Wales (note that I am not calling you Enlgish GunsGerms, I'm not that nasty).

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:
Rodders, what I meant was that we we didn't run away with any of the Six Nations matches. If you listened to some Welsh posters here, you'd think we were a class above everyone else when the truth is we weren't.

I think Wales were a class above. 5 wins over 5 games proves that. Being able grind out wins and ride the luck a bit is the difference between a good side and a champion side. There's no question Wales were the best side last 6N.

You really won't hear any criticism of Wales, will you, Morgannwg?

I note the OP hasn't botherered returning to his own thread to be involved in any discussion, merely thrown out a poor attempt at a WUM, then buggered off, no doubt in the hope that it will descend into the usual England/Wales bickering.
I also note that the OP is a berk

No, Danny was a Translammer !

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:You really won't hear any criticism of Wales, will you, Morgannwg?

Another brass response. I've heard and given plenty as of late. I just think people who agree with other people slagging off their nation and rugby team are lowlives; LP?

But that makes you a lowlife too!

No just you. Learn to read.

What's a 'brass response' when it's at home?

If this is true:

'I've heard and given plenty (of criticism) as of late.'

And this is true:

'People who agree with other people slagging off their nation and rugby team are lowlives.'

Then surely you, in agreeing with criticism of the national side, are also a lowlife.

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:If this is true:

'I've heard and given plenty (of criticism) as of late.'

And this is true:

'People who agree with other people slagging off their nation and rugby team are lowlives.'

Then surely you, in agreeing with criticism of the national side, are also a lowlife.

I've posted criticism of the performance and the performances of some of the players. Deserved criticism, and constructive (I hope). Others just slag off the team and Wales in general. Here is where you enter the fray.

And you're saying you really couldn't tell the difference?

So criticism of Wales is okay if it comes from you, but not if it comes from anyone else?

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:So criticism of Wales is okay if it comes from you, but not if it comes from anyone else?

I'm not saying that. You still don't understand. How far did you get in life being this slow?

Just a thought. Maybe the poster of this article should be asking 'Are England the worst RWC winners ever?' They're the only cup holders not to win a trophy during the 4 year cycle post RWC tournament. Their only tournament win came the year before the last world cup, and they couldn't even get the clean sweep ever after purchasing ship loads of Grand Slam 2011 t-shirts.

Do you insult everyone you disagree with in real life too?