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Haka and Violence
by Newsilure Mon 26 Nov 2012, 2:06 pm
Should we be surprised that within a couple of minutes of doing a war dance, which not that long ago was a precursor to taking heads or loosing yours, that the ABs are in the mood for violence.
If I remember rightly the O'Driscoll incident was within a minute or two of starting the match just like the Bradley one was yesterday. I like watching the Haka and I like tradition but a big part of the purpose of a war dance is to wind the people performing it up to commit acts that with cooler heads they wouldn't do?
If I remember rightly the O'Driscoll incident was within a minute or two of starting the match just like the Bradley one was yesterday. I like watching the Haka and I like tradition but a big part of the purpose of a war dance is to wind the people performing it up to commit acts that with cooler heads they wouldn't do?
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Re: Haka and Violence
by LondonTiger Mon 26 Nov 2012, 2:10 pm
should we just lock this thread now, before it gets silly?
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Re: Haka and Violence
by OzT Mon 26 Nov 2012, 2:11 pm
I wouldn't have thought so, the link to the dance then act.
Na, it's a spectacle, for the crowd's enjoyment. Sure the dance itself may have originated from was dances of old, but no one in their right minds would do the dance and then commit physical harm. Be like saying an actor playing a murderer will kill when he comes off the set.
Well there may be some like that, but they are usually found out before 5th grade...
Na, it's a spectacle, for the crowd's enjoyment. Sure the dance itself may have originated from was dances of old, but no one in their right minds would do the dance and then commit physical harm. Be like saying an actor playing a murderer will kill when he comes off the set.
Well there may be some like that, but they are usually found out before 5th grade...
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Re: Haka and Violence
by fa0019 Mon 26 Nov 2012, 2:13 pm
That haka that South Africa do fired up Schalk Burger too on his 50th test in the first lions test in 09... hang on a minute???
Haka or no Haka..... players are fired up at the beginning of the match.
Haka or no Haka..... players are fired up at the beginning of the match.
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Re: Haka and Violence
by GunsGerms Mon 26 Nov 2012, 2:25 pm
The Haka is just a bit of pantomime for the fans. No big deal.
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Re: Haka and Violence
by AlastairW Mon 26 Nov 2012, 2:26 pm
GunsGerms wrote:The Haka is just a bit of pantomime for the fans. No big deal.
oh no it isn't ...
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Re: Haka and Violence
by Cyril Mon 26 Nov 2012, 2:52 pm
AlastairW wrote:GunsGerms wrote:The Haka is just a bit of pantomime for the fans. No big deal.
oh no it isn't ...
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Re: Haka and Violence
by goneagain Mon 26 Nov 2012, 2:55 pm
AlastairW wrote:GunsGerms wrote:The Haka is just a bit of pantomime for the fans. No big deal.
oh no it isn't ...
Brilliant, if only someone in the crowd had shouted "he's behind you"
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Re: Haka and Violence
by SecretFly Mon 26 Nov 2012, 3:19 pm
ban it
ban them
ban us.
It's all nonsense. Haka, ABs, Rugby and 606v2
ban them
ban us.
It's all nonsense. Haka, ABs, Rugby and 606v2
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Re: Haka and Violence
by AlastairW Mon 26 Nov 2012, 3:21 pm
HERSH wrote:I don't think he did anything wrong.
oh yes he did ...
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Re: Haka and Violence
by samuraidragon Mon 26 Nov 2012, 3:23 pm
I think it gets the adrenalin going. It used be a bit of a silly dance 30 yrs ago, when most of the team were of different ethnic origin. You could see them treating it like a kind of Hokey Cokey.
Now it's much more intense and meaningful and probably fills the players to the brim with "hwyl," especially those from non-settler backgrounds. Hence all the stuff about respecting and disrespecing the haka.
Now it's much more intense and meaningful and probably fills the players to the brim with "hwyl," especially those from non-settler backgrounds. Hence all the stuff about respecting and disrespecing the haka.
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Re: Haka and Violence
by HERSH Mon 26 Nov 2012, 3:23 pm
Why?
He was in his way and slowing him down, many of us would do the same.
It's a mans game after all.
He was in his way and slowing him down, many of us would do the same.
It's a mans game after all.
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Re: Haka and Violence
by TJ1 Mon 26 Nov 2012, 3:24 pm
no doubt it gets the adrenaline flowing - just look at their faces. Does that contribute to incidents like Hores - possibly but I have seen a good few similar incidents over the years from non NZ teams
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Re: Haka and Violence
by AlastairW Mon 26 Nov 2012, 3:25 pm
HERSH wrote:Why?
He was in his way and slowing him down, many of us would do the same.
It's a mans game after all.
Oh, you missed the panto thing there then
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Re: Haka and Violence
by Morgannwg Mon 26 Nov 2012, 3:29 pm
It's a tedious subject now. Come on mods sort this out, and I thought defence of such cowardly actions to wind up fans of other nations was worth a ban? If so, HERSH should receive the same fate as awop.
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Re: Haka and Violence
by Looseheaded Mon 26 Nov 2012, 3:30 pm
HERSH wrote:Why?
He was in his way and slowing him down, many of us would do the same.
It's a mans game after all.
If your mark of a man is how well he can hit someone from behind then that says a lot about you as a person.
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Re: Haka and Violence
by HERSH Mon 26 Nov 2012, 3:34 pm
I didn't say it was right but it happens on most rugby pitches every weekend.
Cheap shots are part of the game, if you have played it then you would know that.
Unfortunatly for Wales Hore caught him too well.
Cheap shots are part of the game, if you have played it then you would know that.
Unfortunatly for Wales Hore caught him too well.
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Re: Haka and Violence
by HERSH Mon 26 Nov 2012, 3:36 pm
Morgannwg wrote:It's a tedious subject now. Come on mods sort this out, and I thought defence of such cowardly actions to wind up fans of other nations was worth a ban? If so, HERSH should receive the same fate as awop.
Yawn.
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Re: Haka and Violence
by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Mon 26 Nov 2012, 3:44 pm
I'm locking this before Hersh and Morg WUM/bicker themselves into bans
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