Price v Chisora

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Having watched a 45 year old skelton have success by getting close to price I reckon Chisora who is great at that would be able to do it better and in my view win.

Price looks good at range but as soon as the opponent gets close he seems to take punches, his defence is not great against pressure body hitting fighters.

No I dont work for Sky. If I did I would tell you that Froch is the greatest boxer of all time and would beat Calzaghe, Sugar Ray Robinson, Sugar Ray Leonard and Ali in the same night!

Gordy wrote:No I dont work for Sky. If I did I would tell you that Froch is the greatest boxer of all time and would beat Calzaghe, Sugar Ray Robinson, Sugar Ray Leonard and Ali in the same night!

I knew there was someone with a little sense hiding in that sess pool of a mind of yours Gordon

AlexHuckerby wrote:

hampo171 wrote:I'd like to see Chisora fight Price, purely to see if Price can put the rumours to bed that he struggles with pressure fighters. Skelton had about 30 seconds of success during the first round and that was about it, but that was because he rushed Price who wasn't expecting that kind of start.

The rumours?!?! Haha. Started by one WUM on this forum...

have you been studying geography recently or do you still think Germany, US, Switzerland, UK Austria are in Eastern Europe?

victorgarco wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:

hampo171 wrote:I'd like to see Chisora fight Price, purely to see if Price can put the rumours to bed that he struggles with pressure fighters. Skelton had about 30 seconds of success during the first round and that was about it, but that was because he rushed Price who wasn't expecting that kind of start.

The rumours?!?! Haha. Started by one WUM on this forum...

have you been studying geography recently or do you still think Germany, US, Switzerland, UK Austria are in Eastern Europe?

What does that possibly have to do with either of the above posts??

(If you're feeling sensitive, I'll point out Alex's WUM comment was not ref you.)

Having read through the thread I take that back, it definitely was intended for you - and rightly so! Christ almighty, are you Az in disguise or just a rubbish version thereof?

Bring back Waingro....... :S

TopHat24/7 wrote:
Bring back Waingro....... :S

Might not want to hold your breath on that one top hat

TopHat24/7 wrote:Having read through the thread I take that back, it definitely was intended for you - and rightly so! Christ almighty, are you Az in disguise or just a rubbish version thereof?

Bring back Waingro....... :S

Price has fought C level opponents and the only pressure fighter he has fought (a 45 year old domestic level skelton) gave him some problems. Imagine what a young Chisora would do.

If being a WUM means you have your own opinions and don't just follow the general view like a sheep cos you're too scared to express a different view then I am a WUM.

victorgarco wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:Having read through the thread I take that back, it definitely was intended for you - and rightly so! Christ almighty, are you Az in disguise or just a rubbish version thereof?

Bring back Waingro....... :S

Price has fought C level opponents and the only pressure fighter he has fought (a 45 year old domestic level skelton) gave him some problems. Imagine what a young Chisora would do.

If being a WUM means you have your own opinions and don't just follow the general view like a sheep cos you're too scared to express a different view then I am a WUM.

Well I think you have got your point accross

Anything else you want to add?

victorgarco wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:Having read through the thread I take that back, it definitely was intended for you - and rightly so! Christ almighty, are you Az in disguise or just a rubbish version thereof?

Bring back Waingro....... :S

Price has fought C level opponents and the only pressure fighter he has fought (a 45 year old domestic level skelton) gave him some problems. Imagine what a young Chisora would do.

If being a WUM means you have your own opinions and don't just follow the general view like a sheep cos you're too scared to express a different view then I am a WUM.

Either is Az or someone who wants/pretending to be Az.

only pressure fighter he has fought (a 45 year old domestic level skelton) gave him some problems

Think you meant to say:

only pressure fighter he has fought was able to survive without getting bombed out for around 90s before he was dismantled in pretty brutal fashion.

Can someone explain to me what they see in Chisora I am missing, slower than waingro trying to understand qunatum physics, not a particularly big puncher and never turns up in particularly great shape, apart from a half decent chin I really struggle to see the attraction.

He has great ring entry music. Must be that, because there is very little else about him to worry any European level fighter

I think Warren's far too smart and canny to let Chisora anywhere near Price in the forseeable future. Right now, even with those four defeats in his last five outings, Chisora still has a faint hope of getting in to the world title mix once the Klitschkos are out of the way. His worst is pretty dreadful, but his best is good enough to at least compete on a reasonable level with most other Heavyweights out there, as his showings against Helenius and Vitali demonstrated.

But another defeat right now would surely render his assault on a Heavyweight title a busted flush. He needs to get back on a winning streak a.s.a.p and initiating that against Price is asking a lot.

For the record, I think Price gives Chisora a bad, bad points beating if Derek's in good shape, perhaps. If he comes in at 260 lb again as he did against Fury, then he gets taken out in the middle to late rounds. I think Price would have a field day punching downwards on to Chisora's head, which stops moving after the first three or four rounds. Chisora has a habit of weaving his way in to range and then not really letting his hands go enough, too, and I don't think he could afford to do that against Price, who is really dipping his knees in to those body shots these days.

Price desperately needs some rounds in the bank, but I think it makes sense for both parties to look elsewhere for now.

Rotherham Joe Gans wrote:Can someone explain to me what they see in Chisora I am missing, slower than waingro trying to understand qunatum physics, not a particularly big puncher and never turns up in particularly great shape, apart from a half decent chin I really struggle to see the attraction.

Gave Vitali Klitschko one of his toughest fights

Rotherham Joe Gans wrote:Can someone explain to me what they see in Chisora I am missing, slower than waingro trying to understand qunatum physics, not a particularly big puncher and never turns up in particularly great shape, apart from a half decent chin I really struggle to see the attraction.

When he is in shape (so any fight excluding fury really) he is a handful as klitschko saw. He beat Helinius and gave Haye a tricky fight catching him with a good punch which wobbled Haye. Chisora has good head movement as shown against klitschko and a good chin. he throws a lot of punches to the body as well.

For the record all the people chisora lost to would beat price. Vitali and haye would KO price, fury would beat price on points and not sure about helinius but we all know chisora was robbed.

seanmichaels wrote:

Rotherham Joe Gans wrote:Can someone explain to me what they see in Chisora I am missing, slower than waingro trying to understand qunatum physics, not a particularly big puncher and never turns up in particularly great shape, apart from a half decent chin I really struggle to see the attraction.

Gave Vitali Klitschko one of his toughest fights

You'll forgive me if I don't get overly excited about losing clearly to a 40 odd year old heavyweight carrying an injury. May well go on to be proven wrong but I genuinely don't see it with Dereck, as manos once perceptively put it is Samuel Peter without the punch.

victorgarco wrote:

Rotherham Joe Gans wrote:Can someone explain to me what they see in Chisora I am missing, slower than waingro trying to understand qunatum physics, not a particularly big puncher and never turns up in particularly great shape, apart from a half decent chin I really struggle to see the attraction.

When he is in shape (so any fight excluding fury really) he is a handful as klitschko saw. He beat Helinius and gave Haye a tricky fight catching him with a good punch which wobbled Haye. Chisora has good head movement as shown against klitschko and a good chin. he throws a lot of punches to the body as well.

For the record all the people chisora lost to would beat price. Vitali and haye would KO price, fury would beat price on points and not sure about helinius but we all know chisora was robbed.

If I remember correctly, the punch which 'wobbled' Haye was a couple of seconds after the bell, hence the reason why Haye was shaken up by it.

Anyway, I think Chisora would be a good contest for Price to take, if only because he should take him into the middle rounds at the very least. Unless Price's chin is really as bad as Az thinks, I think the first two or three rounds would be competitive before Price's power would begin to show.

He lost to Helenius.

as1079 wrote: Unless Price's chin is really as bad as Az thinks,.

In all fairness if Price's chin was as bad as Az thinks he would be in danger from stiff breezes or shaving too aggressively.

For the record all the people chisora lost to would beat price

Not sure many of us care what is on your record (but am there's a few things on there which means you have to wear a tag and aren't allowed near schools).

Fury is a poorer version of Price, a much poorer version.

Haye was getting caught by the much slower Chisora, a guy not known for his power like Price is. Price would land the right hand and it would be good night vienna, either that or Haye gets outboxed to a UD like he did against Wlad.

Vitali would be a cracking fight as he's just as good technically and has the physical attributes to negate Vitali's big long jab.

Helenius is in the same boat as Fury when it comes to price. Just not good enough.

as1079 wrote:

victorgarco wrote:

Rotherham Joe Gans wrote:Can someone explain to me what they see in Chisora I am missing, slower than waingro trying to understand qunatum physics, not a particularly big puncher and never turns up in particularly great shape, apart from a half decent chin I really struggle to see the attraction.

When he is in shape (so any fight excluding fury really) he is a handful as klitschko saw. He beat Helinius and gave Haye a tricky fight catching him with a good punch which wobbled Haye. Chisora has good head movement as shown against klitschko and a good chin. he throws a lot of punches to the body as well.

For the record all the people chisora lost to would beat price. Vitali and haye would KO price, fury would beat price on points and not sure about helinius but we all know chisora was robbed.

If I remember correctly, the punch which 'wobbled' Haye was a couple of seconds after the bell, hence the reason why Haye was shaken up by it.

Anyway, I think Chisora would be a good contest for Price to take, if only because he should take him into the middle rounds at the very least. Unless Price's chin is really as bad as Az thinks, I think the first two or three rounds would be competitive before Price's power would begin to show.

Here is a conspiracy theory for you. Chisora landed the punch and there was about 14 seconds left in the round but the ref stopped the round early.

go to 24:10 to see it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxK0PjLNhT8

coxy0001 wrote:

For the record all the people chisora lost to would beat price

Not sure many of us care what is on your record (but am there's a few things on there which means you have to wear a tag and aren't allowed near schools).

Fury is a poorer version of Price, a much poorer version.

Haye was getting caught by the much slower Chisora, a guy not known for his power like Price is. Price would land the right hand and it would be good night vienna, either that or Haye gets outboxed to a UD like he did against Wlad.

Vitali would be a cracking fight as he's just as good technically and has the physical attributes to negate Vitali's big long jab.

Helenius is in the same boat as Fury when it comes to price. Just not good enough.

I hope you are not a betting man because you would lose a lot of money. You seriously think price a man who has about 15 fights against c level fighters would beat Haye the undisputed cruiserweight and the heavyweight champion. Haye was attacked for not fighting the best fighters but valuev, ruiz, chisora and even barrett are better fighters than anything price has faced.

Price to beat Haye if they met today, Coxy? Price is way too undercooked for that. Haye's just too experienced and classy for Price at this stage. It'd be a pasting!

I actually think Price has been given a little too much credit from some for his career so far. The potential is there, but it only seems to be the fact that Fury comes cross as a prat which makes people reluctant and / or unwilling to acknowledge that he's fought - and beaten - the significantly better opponents than Price up until this stage.

Price basically got a lot more acclaim, adulation and credit for beating the likes of Sexton and McDermott than Fury got for beating guys such as Chisora and Johnson, which is a miscarriage of justice if we're being totally honest about it.

Price can go all the way, but putting him in with a Haye or a Klitschko right now would be suicide.

victorgarco wrote:

as1079 wrote:

victorgarco wrote:

Rotherham Joe Gans wrote:Can someone explain to me what they see in Chisora I am missing, slower than waingro trying to understand qunatum physics, not a particularly big puncher and never turns up in particularly great shape, apart from a half decent chin I really struggle to see the attraction.

When he is in shape (so any fight excluding fury really) he is a handful as klitschko saw. He beat Helinius and gave Haye a tricky fight catching him with a good punch which wobbled Haye. Chisora has good head movement as shown against klitschko and a good chin. he throws a lot of punches to the body as well.

For the record all the people chisora lost to would beat price. Vitali and haye would KO price, fury would beat price on points and not sure about helinius but we all know chisora was robbed.

If I remember correctly, the punch which 'wobbled' Haye was a couple of seconds after the bell, hence the reason why Haye was shaken up by it.

Anyway, I think Chisora would be a good contest for Price to take, if only because he should take him into the middle rounds at the very least. Unless Price's chin is really as bad as Az thinks, I think the first two or three rounds would be competitive before Price's power would begin to show.

Here is a conspiracy theory for you. Chisora landed the punch and there was about 14 seconds left in the round but the ref stopped the round early.

go to 24:10 to see it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxK0PjLNhT8

Hmm. That is interesting, I'll give you that. There did seem to be some kind of 'clunking' noise in the background so it's probably just a case of the ref thinking he heard the bell when he didn't.

victorgarco wrote:

coxy0001 wrote:

For the record all the people chisora lost to would beat price

Not sure many of us care what is on your record (but am there's a few things on there which means you have to wear a tag and aren't allowed near schools).

Fury is a poorer version of Price, a much poorer version.

Haye was getting caught by the much slower Chisora, a guy not known for his power like Price is. Price would land the right hand and it would be good night vienna, either that or Haye gets outboxed to a UD like he did against Wlad.

Vitali would be a cracking fight as he's just as good technically and has the physical attributes to negate Vitali's big long jab.

Helenius is in the same boat as Fury when it comes to price. Just not good enough.

I hope you are not a betting man because you would lose a lot of money. You seriously think price a man who has about 15 fights against c level fighters would beat Haye the undisputed cruiserweight and the heavyweight champion. Haye was attacked for not fighting the best fighters but valuev, ruiz, chisora and even barrett are better fighters than anything price has faced.

Valuev: Lost a massively contentious decision to a completely and utterly shot Holyfield =

Ruiz: Completely shot

Chisora: Lost 4 out of his last 5.

Valuev/Ruiz/Chisora would be good matchups for an up and comer like Price (at the time Haye fought them) to blow away.. but they don't enhance Haye nor would they give Price many problems.

In summary. You + boxing =

Barret: Oh dear. Oh dear oh dear.

88Chris05 wrote:Price to beat Haye if they met today, Coxy? Price is way too undercooked for that. Haye's just too experienced and classy for Price at this stage. It'd be a pasting!

I actually think Price has been given a little too much credit from some for his career so far. The potential is there, but it only seems to be the fact that Fury comes cross as a prat which makes people reluctant and / or unwilling to acknowledge that he's fought - and beaten - the significantly better opponents than Price up until this stage.

Price basically got a lot more acclaim, adulation and credit for beating the likes of Sexton and McDermott than Fury got for beating guys such as Chisora and Johnson, which is a miscarriage of justice if we're being totally honest about it.

Price can go all the way, but putting him in with a Haye or a Klitschko right now would be suicide.

Agreed. No way does Price beat Haye right now. That's got a comfortable Haye UD/LKO written all over it, in my opinion. If Price progresses over the next 12-18 months as you'd expect, however, I think he could take Haye out in the first half of the fight.

88Chris05 wrote:Price to beat Haye if they met today, Coxy? Price is way too undercooked for that. Haye's just too experienced and classy for Price at this stage. It'd be a pasting!

I actually think Price has been given a little too much credit from some for his career so far. The potential is there, but it only seems to be the fact that Fury comes cross as a prat which makes people reluctant and / or unwilling to acknowledge that he's fought - and beaten - the significantly better opponents than Price up until this stage.

Price basically got a lot more acclaim, adulation and credit for beating the likes of Sexton and McDermott than Fury got for beating guys such as Chisora and Johnson, which is a miscarriage of justice if we're being totally honest about it.

Price can go all the way, but putting him in with a Haye or a Klitschko right now would be suicide.

Haye wasn't exactly willing to get near either Wlad or Valuev due to their size... the former near enough won every round, why would he be so keen to engage with another giant? A giant who can seriously bang, especially with the right? Who's amateur pedigree isn't exactly bad and can obviously box as well.

Personally 'right' now I wouldn't want to see him face a K-Bro, 3 more quick fights and then this time next year would be as good as any. But I would fancy him to beat Haye judging by how utterly negative Haye would be in the fight.. It would take a Mystic Meg kind of post to suggest otherwise, as he does have form of running and jumping.

Haye didn't go toe to toe with Valuev because he boxed the smart fight, Coxy. He was an immovable object, Price isn't. The Haye who totally outboxed Valuev (how anyone had that fight close is beyond me) would do the same to today's version of Price, I'm sure.

As for the Wladimir issue, well, to put it simply Price just ain't Wlad. It's worth noting that a lot of people (me included, I'll admit) thought that Haye would look to box Chisora to within an inch of his life rather than trade up close and finish things early, too. Let's not pretend that fighting, as opposed to boxing, is beyond Haye.

Price is a prospect yet to venture beyond the domestic front, Haye is a proven and consistent world level performer; it's all about levels and right now Price would be in way over his head, size advantage or not. Haye too quick, too experienced and hits too hard for Price to even be contemplating the fight right now. Jumping from the Harrisons, Sextons and Skeltons of this world to the likes of Haye would be the very definition of a rude awakening.

88Chris05 wrote:Haye didn't go toe to toe with Valuev because he boxed the smart fight, Coxy. He was an immovable object, Price isn't. The Haye who totally outboxed Valuev (how anyone had that fight close is beyond me) would do the same to today's version of Price, I'm sure.

As for the Wladimir issue, well, to put it simply Price just ain't Wlad. It's worth noting that a lot of people (me included, I'll admit) thought that Haye would look to box Chisora to within an inch of his life rather than trade up close and finish things early, too. Let's not pretend that fighting, as opposed to boxing, is beyond Haye.

Price is a prospect yet to venture beyond the domestic front, Haye is a proven and consistent world level performer; it's all about levels and right now Price would be in way over his head, size advantage or not. Haye too quick, too experienced and hits too hard for Price to even be contemplating the fight right now. Jumping from the Harrisons, Sextons and Skeltons of this world to the likes of Haye would be the very definition of a rude awakening.

I do agree with what your saying Chris but I don't see it as a foregone conclusion like you do. The boxing game is all about levels but Price would be a very live underdog if they were to get it on at this moment in time. Price has the size, reach and power advantage over Haye and does have underrated hand speed. This coupled with the farcical performance he put on against Wlad, I wouldn't say this was a forgone conclusion. But as betting man, I would still have to pomp for Haye.

Rowley - Chisora is a gutsy trier and those sorts get admiration in the ring whether or not they are average. Witness Gavin rees or Graham Earl - nothing really to their game except tons of courage and average in everything else

As for Haye price - I'd agree with chris and quote someone (please tell me who you are) on a froch thread who said Froch has been campaigning so intensely on the very highest level annihilates lesser men because they cant match him for sharpness. Would be the diff between price and haye. I will add though - Price can get to hayes level in a couple of fights if he picks the right opponent. Maybe Chageav or Povetkin who are good fighters though the former is past his best now.

ShahenshahG wrote:Rowley - Chisora is a gutsy trier and those sorts get admiration in the ring whether or not they are average. Witness Gavin rees or Graham Earl - nothing really to their game except tons of courage and average in everything else

I appreciate all that Shah still don't think he is any bloody good though

True but aside from Wlad or Vitali who is? Povetkin maybe although he'd beat Farah should either brother look at him, Haye is very good but greater for the dearth in talent in hw. Chis is Average and so are Price and Fury (until opponents improve) he's got a good chin and hes aggressive. But he's better than any of Prices fights so far - he might be able to give him much needed rounds. He might be a lunatic but he earns his money.

88Chris05 wrote:Haye didn't go toe to toe with Valuev because he boxed the smart fight, Coxy. He was an immovable object, Price isn't. The Haye who totally outboxed Valuev (how anyone had that fight close is beyond me) would do the same to today's version of Price, I'm sure.

As for the Wladimir issue, well, to put it simply Price just ain't Wlad. It's worth noting that a lot of people (me included, I'll admit) thought that Haye would look to box Chisora to within an inch of his life rather than trade up close and finish things early, too. Let's not pretend that fighting, as opposed to boxing, is beyond Haye.

Price is a prospect yet to venture beyond the domestic front, Haye is a proven and consistent world level performer; it's all about levels and right now Price would be in way over his head, size advantage or not. Haye too quick, too experienced and hits too hard for Price to even be contemplating the fight right now. Jumping from the Harrisons, Sextons and Skeltons of this world to the likes of Haye would be the very definition of a rude awakening.

If, as Shah said, he were to go through a Helenius and say Adamek in his next few fights would your stance soften on this? And lets not forget Rahman was being touted as this and that and blasted Lewis out of there, I'm not making a direct comparison but hopefully you'll get what I'm saying... when is the right person to step it up after blasting out soft opposition who although mediocre could either be flattering to deceive ability or that the guy is ready for the step up at an earlier stage than people think?

Rotherham Joe Gans wrote:Can someone explain to me what they see in Chisora I am missing, slower than waingro trying to understand qunatum physics, not a particularly big puncher and never turns up in particularly great shape, apart from a half decent chin I really struggle to see the attraction.

Even his chin isn't THAT great in my opinion, think too much is made of the Vitali fight as big Vit has looked slow and arthritic almost in his last couple of bouts compared to pre-absence, or even just a few years ago, and his jab hasn't the snap it used too.

I think 'prime for prime' Vit should be a bigger hitter than Haye but look what the younger fitter fresher man did to Chisora - absolutely pancaked him!

Agree tho, I think Chisora is overblown by too many. Who's the best W on his CV? A massively over-the-hill fat old Danny Williams? Fat-boy Baker? Quite possibly his two wins over Sam Sexton in all honesty in which case there's nothing to say he's any better than Price.

Price may have been operating against mainly 'C' level fighters (albeit blowing them away with barely a sweat) but Chisora's done little to suggest he's more than 'B-'.

coxy0001 wrote:If, as Shah said, he were to go through a Helenius and say Adamek in his next few fights would your stance soften on this?

Yep, of course. That goes without saying. Seeing is believing and while I'm sure we're all confident that Price can compete with, and beat, many of the ranked Heavyweights out there (but not the elite ones), confirmation would be better. It also pretty much goes without saying that he'd learn more from beating those two, regardless of how poor, average or spectacular he looks in doing it, than he has from blasting out the likes of McDermott, Audley and Skelton in a round or two. Price would naturally be better equipped and more prepared to face the cream of the Heavyweight division having navigated Helenius' reach and power as well as Adamek's speed than he would be without having done so, as is the case now.

Freak results crop up in boxing, of course, but that's exactly what it'd be if today's version of Price were to somehow beat Haye - a freak result, or something close to it. You mention Rahman, and I'll mention Paul Lloyd, Howard Clarke, Michael Grant and a bunch of others who were all fast-tracked to facing top class opposition, having previously only been in with a series of domestic middlers ala Price, and were duly swatted with contempt. Those examples are far more common - Rahman was the exception, whereas the likes of Lloyd, Clarke, Grant etc are very much the rule.

For the record, I rate Price, and I think it's entirely possible that he could go on to prove himself a better and more successful Heavyweight than haye in the long run. In fact, when it comes to the subject of who can be THE best Heavyweight in the world once Wladimir is out of the way, I tend to look at the other emerging contenders around the world and find myself thinking that Price has as good a chance as any of them of achieving that status, if not better.

But that kind of transformation isn't going to happen on its own, and nor is it going to come about from routinely blasting out domestic operators. Testing fights and a steady progression up the ranks against the likes of Helenius, Adamek etc is the way to get the ball rolling, but without that important step the reality is that he'd be a lamb to the slaughter if he shared a ring with the top, top men of the division right now and Haye, despite his lack of popularity on here, is amongst that group.

coxy0001 wrote:

victorgarco wrote:

coxy0001 wrote:

For the record all the people chisora lost to would beat price

Not sure many of us care what is on your record (but am there's a few things on there which means you have to wear a tag and aren't allowed near schools).

Fury is a poorer version of Price, a much poorer version.

Haye was getting caught by the much slower Chisora, a guy not known for his power like Price is. Price would land the right hand and it would be good night vienna, either that or Haye gets outboxed to a UD like he did against Wlad.

Vitali would be a cracking fight as he's just as good technically and has the physical attributes to negate Vitali's big long jab.

Helenius is in the same boat as Fury when it comes to price. Just not good enough.

I hope you are not a betting man because you would lose a lot of money. You seriously think price a man who has about 15 fights against c level fighters would beat Haye the undisputed cruiserweight and the heavyweight champion. Haye was attacked for not fighting the best fighters but valuev, ruiz, chisora and even barrett are better fighters than anything price has faced.

Valuev: Lost a massively contentious decision to a completely and utterly shot Holyfield =

Ruiz: Completely shot

Chisora: Lost 4 out of his last 5.

Valuev/Ruiz/Chisora would be good matchups for an up and comer like Price (at the time Haye fought them) to blow away.. but they don't enhance Haye nor would they give Price many problems.

In summary. You + boxing =

Barret: Oh dear. Oh dear oh dear.

hahah coming from the guy who thinks price right now would blow out david haye or beat him as easily as wlad did and also you think price at this stage is on an equal level to vitali klitschko hahahaha.

Price beat a 40 year old audley harrison and a 45 year old matt skelton and all of a sudden you think he is the best HW boxer in the division and would beat Haye easily and is on the same level as Klitschko hahaha.


Anyway the irony is that you are laughing at haye's opponents but they are all much better than anything Price has faced. Even Monte barret who is a B level fighter is better quality than anything price has faced.

Price beat a 40 year old audley harrison and a 45 year old matt skelton and all of a sudden you think he is the best HW boxer in the division and would beat Haye easily and is on the same level as Klitschko hahaha.

Please find the part where I:

a) Said he was the best HW boxer in the division
b) Would beat Haye 'easily'
c) Is on the same level as a KBro - I said he, for me, is the only boxer who could compete with them from both a technical and physical front.

"hahaha". Moronic Muppet.

coxy0001 wrote:

Price beat a 40 year old audley harrison and a 45 year old matt skelton and all of a sudden you think he is the best HW boxer in the division and would beat Haye easily and is on the same level as Klitschko hahaha.

Please find the part where I:

a) Said he was the best HW boxer in the division
b) Would beat Haye 'easily'
c) Is on the same level as a KBro - I said he, for me, is the only boxer who could compete with them from both a technical and physical front.

"hahaha". Moronic Muppet.

This is what you said and I quote

'Haye was getting caught by the much slower Chisora, a guy not known for his power like Price is. Price would land the right hand and it would be good night vienna, either that or Haye gets outboxed to a UD like he did against Wlad.

Vitali would be a cracking fight as he's just as good technically and has the physical attributes to negate Vitali's big long jab.

a) see below
b)you said price would land the right hand on Haye and it would be good night or price would outbox him like WLAD did. Wlad scored on 1 judges card 118-108, it was an easy fight for wlad so if you think price would beat haye like wlad did then you are saying it would be as easy for price as it was for wlad.

c) You said he is on the same level technically as Vitali and would negate vitalis jab. SO you said he is on the same level as him technically so don't try and change it so that you said he is the only guy who could compete with him. You said he is on the SAME level meaning he is just as good as vitali klitschko.

You clearly said everything that i said you had said and i have quoted it above. Don't worry if you want to change your opinions on price and if you want to admit he would not blow out Haye or be on the same level as klitschko i would understand cos those were foolish comments to make.

victorgarco wrote:

coxy0001 wrote:

Price beat a 40 year old audley harrison and a 45 year old matt skelton and all of a sudden you think he is the best HW boxer in the division and would beat Haye easily and is on the same level as Klitschko hahaha.

Please find the part where I:

a) Said he was the best HW boxer in the division
b) Would beat Haye 'easily'
c) Is on the same level as a KBro - I said he, for me, is the only boxer who could compete with them from both a technical and physical front.

"hahaha". Moronic Muppet.

This is what you said and I quote

'Haye was getting caught by the much slower Chisora, a guy not known for his power like Price is. Price would land the right hand and it would be good night vienna, either that or Haye gets outboxed to a UD like he did against Wlad.

Vitali would be a cracking fight as he's just as good technically and has the physical attributes to negate Vitali's big long jab.

a) see below
b)you said price would land the right hand on Haye and it would be good night or price would outbox him like WLAD did. Wlad scored on 1 judges card 118-108, it was an easy fight for wlad so if you think price would beat haye like wlad did then you are saying it would be as easy for price as it was for wlad.

c) You said he is on the same level technically as Vitali and would negate vitalis jab. SO you said he is on the same level as him technically so don't try and change it so that you said he is the only guy who could compete with him. You said he is on the SAME level meaning he is just as good as vitali klitschko.

You clearly said everything that i said you had said and i have quoted it above. Don't worry if you want to change your opinions on price and if you want to admit he would not blow out Haye or be on the same level as klitschko i would understand cos those were foolish comments to make.

a) You can't say "see below" you muppet, you haven't answered the question.

b) I never said 'easily' - you made an assumption. Can you find the word "easy" in a previous post? No, you can't - can you? Saying "like he did" implies Haye doesn't get in to range. Only a complete mother effing idiot would assume I was saying the scorecards would be as wide. You've made an assumption that every round for 12 would be a mirror defeat, you're showing a slight simpleness I'm finding hard to respond to. I outlined a reason why he in my eyes would win, I never said 'easy' so how about you stop debating with someone who has a vastly superior mind?

c) Who else is 6'8? Has a long pumping jab? Who can throw the big right without lunging in to range? And who's the best young 'giant'? Price could cope with him. He's fitter, he's quicker, he's only lacking experience and that could be his downfall.

It's people like you, who lack a brain, who make me wonder why I bother coming on a forum.

I'm sorry, but you're a complete tool and it's almost bringing me to tears to even talk to you. Our country has failed you, you've failed the education system. Just do us all a favour.

coxy0001 wrote:
It's people like you, who lack a brain, who make me wonder why I bother coming on a forum.

It takes two to tango. Or two people with a lack of brains to argue.

Adam D wrote:

coxy0001 wrote:
It's people like you, who lack a brain, who make me wonder why I bother coming on a forum.

It takes two to tango. Or two people with a lack of brains to argue.

How's the boxing forum going after your heavy handed approach by the way? Thriving like it was a year ago?

coxy0001 wrote:

Adam D wrote:

coxy0001 wrote:
It's people like you, who lack a brain, who make me wonder why I bother coming on a forum.

It takes two to tango. Or two people with a lack of brains to argue.

How's the boxing forum going after your heavy handed approach by the way? Thriving like it was a year ago?

I think if you ask the majority of posters on here, they like the way things have gone and are going. But thank you for your input

And I can snipe just like you, minus the black badge besides my name.

Adam D wrote:

coxy0001 wrote:

Adam D wrote:

coxy0001 wrote:
It's people like you, who lack a brain, who make me wonder why I bother coming on a forum.

It takes two to tango. Or two people with a lack of brains to argue.

How's the boxing forum going after your heavy handed approach by the way? Thriving like it was a year ago?

I think if you ask the majority of posters on here, they like the way things have gone and are going. But thank you for your input

Well, I wasn't a fan of seeing the trash talk section going and that happened to coincide with the forum being at its most popular... If only you guys were off the coke/champers during that period we could have had kept it under check.

And any time, always one to commend.

PM for you by the way.

coxy0001 wrote:

victorgarco wrote:

coxy0001 wrote:

Price beat a 40 year old audley harrison and a 45 year old matt skelton and all of a sudden you think he is the best HW boxer in the division and would beat Haye easily and is on the same level as Klitschko hahaha.

Please find the part where I:

a) Said he was the best HW boxer in the division
b) Would beat Haye 'easily'
c) Is on the same level as a KBro - I said he, for me, is the only boxer who could compete with them from both a technical and physical front.

"hahaha". Moronic Muppet.

This is what you said and I quote

'Haye was getting caught by the much slower Chisora, a guy not known for his power like Price is. Price would land the right hand and it would be good night vienna, either that or Haye gets outboxed to a UD like he did against Wlad.

Vitali would be a cracking fight as he's just as good technically and has the physical attributes to negate Vitali's big long jab.

a) see below
b)you said price would land the right hand on Haye and it would be good night or price would outbox him like WLAD did. Wlad scored on 1 judges card 118-108, it was an easy fight for wlad so if you think price would beat haye like wlad did then you are saying it would be as easy for price as it was for wlad.

c) You said he is on the same level technically as Vitali and would negate vitalis jab. SO you said he is on the same level as him technically so don't try and change it so that you said he is the only guy who could compete with him. You said he is on the SAME level meaning he is just as good as vitali klitschko.

You clearly said everything that i said you had said and i have quoted it above. Don't worry if you want to change your opinions on price and if you want to admit he would not blow out Haye or be on the same level as klitschko i would understand cos those were foolish comments to make.

a) You can't say "see below" you muppet, you haven't answered the question.

b) I never said 'easily' - you made an assumption. Can you find the word "easy" in a previous post? No, you can't - can you? Saying "like he did" implies Haye doesn't get in to range. Only a complete mother effing idiot would assume I was saying the scorecards would be as wide. You've made an assumption that every round for 12 would be a mirror defeat, you're showing a slight simpleness I'm finding hard to respond to. I outlined a reason why he in my eyes would win, I never said 'easy' so how about you stop debating with someone who has a vastly superior mind?

c) Who else is 6'8? Has a long pumping jab? Who can throw the big right without lunging in to range? And who's the best young 'giant'? Price could cope with him. He's fitter, he's quicker, he's only lacking experience and that could be his downfall.

It's people like you, who lack a brain, who make me wonder why I bother coming on a forum.

I'm sorry, but you're a complete tool and it's almost bringing me to tears to even talk to you. Our country has failed you, you've failed the education system. Just do us all a favour.

Haye was getting caught by the much slower Chisora, a guy not known for his power like Price is. Price would land the right hand and it would be good night vienna, either that or Haye gets outboxed to a UD like he did against Wlad.

Vitali would be a cracking fight as he's just as good technically and has the physical attributes to negate Vitali's big long jab.

Just because you never specifically used the word easy does not mean that is not what the sentence meant. You said Price WOULD land the right and KO Haye. SO you are saying firstly it is a forgone conclusion price would KO haye. Then you contradict yourself and say haye getts outboxed to a UD like he did against Wlad. Haye lost 118-108 on one judges card which is as easy a result as you can get really. If you think Price would beat haye by that scoreline (which you do as you said it).

You keep on trying to defend yourself by saying that you said price would offer the best challenge to Vitali. You clearly said he was on the same level.

Anyway I feel sorry for people who feel the need to name call and insult strangers over the internet because they share a different view on boxing. A mature sensible person would not feel the need to do that.

Just because you never specifically used the word easy does not mean that is not what the sentence meant.

No, I outlined a reason why he would win. I never said 'easily' by the same proportions as the Wlad fight, I merely said Price would because of X/Y/Z. You made and keep making the assumption I meant that.

If you think Price would beat haye by that scoreline (which you do as you said it)

Find me the quote.

When I say "like he did" I didn't mean the exact same scoring - I said he'd be outboxed "like" Wlad did and left it open to the smart people to realise that although not as polished as Wlad I firmly believe Haye would stay on the outside for too long and get picked off.

If I'd said "exactly" or "mirror image" of the Wlad fight would that make it clearer? You see what I've written and keep making assumptions, you've proved yourself to not be the brightest when it comes to boxing so how about you move back to the football boards or something yeah?

coxy0001 wrote:

Just because you never specifically used the word easy does not mean that is not what the sentence meant.

No, I outlined a reason why he would win. I never said 'easily' by the same proportions as the Wlad fight, I merely said Price would because of X/Y/Z. You made and keep making the assumption I meant that.

If you think Price would beat haye by that scoreline (which you do as you said it)

Find me the quote.

When I say "like he did" I didn't mean the exact same scoring - I said he'd be outboxed "like" Wlad did and left it open to the smart people to realise that although not as polished as Wlad I firmly believe Haye would stay on the outside for too long and get picked off.

If I'd said "exactly" or "mirror image" of the Wlad fight would that make it clearer? You see what I've written and keep making assumptions, you've proved yourself to not be the brightest when it comes to boxing so how about you move back to the football boards or something yeah?

I think you even saying price would beat haye as 'comfortably' as wlad did proves you have limited knowledge.

Why because it differs from your opinion, what is this new phenomenon of questioning each others knowledge all about, just makes you all look rather petty and childish.

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Why because it differs from your opinion, what is this new phenomenon of questioning each others knowledge all about, just makes you all look rather petty and childish.

Well suck me dry, Ghosty... how's it going?