Zebre not doing to bad really. Could this week be their first win.

by Brendan Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:21 am

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So when we look at Zebre and see they have no wins. They have 6 LBP from 13 games in the league so just under half their games have been lost by seven or less. they came close against a few of the big teams and if it wasn't for a the last five mins of the game they would be sitting on 12-15 pts and be right up there with Dragons.

This week they face the team that gave Aroini their first win. They are a strong team playing a tean that are the best worse travels of any team in Europe. Zebre will turn this into a dog fight and I think that it could be nevre for the french till the end.

I also think that Zebre will pick up one or two wins before the season is over.

So yes they are still to win a game but they have been close in nearly half their games.

Newport Gwent Dragons 37 - 6 Zebre Rodney Parade 4,540 poor result

Zebre 17 - 30 Connacht Rugby Stadio XXV Aprile 2,025 poor result, ok attendance

Edinburgh Rugby 41 - 10 Zebre Murrayfield 3,541 poor result

Glasgow Warriors 22 - 19 Zebre Scotstoun 3,313 Really good result, could have won

Zebre 16 - 34 Ospreys Stadio XXV Aprile 2,500 ok result, ok attendance

Munster Rugby 29 - 3 Zebre Thomond Park Stadium 14,738 poor result, but not bad compared to others

Scarlets 22 - 13 Zebre Parc y Scarlets 5,757 good result, esp as it was the last few minutes and the bounce of a ball that lost tem the game and then the bonus point

Zebre 25 - 27 Ulster Rugby Stadio XXV Aprile 2,550 great result, should have won, ok attendance

Zebre 7 - 14 Cardiff Blues Stadio XXV Aprile 700 ok result, poor attendance

Leinster Rugby 37 - 7 Zebre Royal Dublin Society 15,894 poor result, but not bad compared to others

Zebre 3 - 10 Benetton Treviso Stadio XXV Aprile 3,000 A bit disappointing result, ok attendance

Benetton Treviso 26 - 18 Zebre Stadio di Monigo 5,000 A bit disappointing result, ok attendance

Ospreys 16 - 15 Zebre Liberty Stadium 7,891 great result, should have won possilbly
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by Brendan Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:16 pm

Zebre played the 3 weakest teams first and have two of them at home which I think they will hope to win.

Sale beat london Irish and Woscestor at home. connacht is the only team Zebre played at home of the lower teams. They have dargons and Edinburgh at home, and Connacht away.

Sale must play LI, LW and Wos all away from home.

Also I don't think people have said they are doing well. it is ok or better then expected. 1/3 of their squad was playing S10 last year. This is alot lower then the championship as has been shown by wos, LW, and others who have come back up.

by LeinsterFan4life Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:48 am

Another good performance from Zebre away from home. A game they really could have won

Oh but I suppose because they lost we can't give them any credit Rolling Eyes

by Guest Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:10 am

That's quite a petty post. Narrow, brave defeats are still that. Otherwise I'd be shouting from the rooftops that Dragons could/should have beaten Bayonne (away) and Wasps in the past two weeks.

by LeinsterFan4life Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:17 am

Risca Rev wrote:That's quite a petty post. Narrow, brave defeats are still that. Otherwise I'd be shouting from the rooftops that Dragons could/should have beaten Bayonne (away) and Wasps in the past two weeks.

Im guessing you haven't been following the thread?

by Guest Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:01 am

Where's the other petty post on this thread? I only see yours.

by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:24 pm

Which is likely to happen first, Zebre winning a game or going bankrupt?
They are pretty close to doing the double

by VinceWLB Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:32 pm

LeinsterFan4life wrote:Yes they are a new team. A lot of their team was playing in the Italian league last season. The two best players Aironi had are now in the Aviva Premiership.

No their 3 best players were Geldenhuis the big 2nd row, Sinoti Sinoti and Nick Williams, they only lost one of them to Ulster, if you meant tightheads Staibano and Romano, well they don't really cut the mustard and Masi is past his best.

They will have a good chance of beating the Dragons or Edinburgh at home.

by Brendan Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:46 pm

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:Which is likely to happen first, Zebre winning a game or going bankrupt?
They are pretty close to doing the double

They are backed by the Italian union. Surely they wouldn't allow it to happen. Do you have a quote for this.

by LeinsterFan4life Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:14 pm

VinceWLB wrote:
LeinsterFan4life wrote:Yes they are a new team. A lot of their team was playing in the Italian league last season. The two best players Aironi had are now in the Aviva Premiership.

No their 3 best players were Geldenhuis the big 2nd row, Sinoti Sinoti and Nick Williams, they only lost one of them to Ulster, if you meant tightheads Staibano and Romano, well they don't really cut the mustard and Masi is past his best.

They will have a good chance of beating the Dragons or Edinburgh at home.

Masi is playing well in the AP. In one of the episodes of rugby club they said he was one of the signings of the season. So he must be doing something good.

by Guest Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:12 am

Kingshu wrote:Risca Rev your making it seam I have something again Dragons, I don't.

But look at the players last year

In
Daniel Evans from Scarlets
Ian Nimmo from Cornish Pirates
Ieuan Jones Academy
Tom Prydie from Ospreys
Tim Ryan from Cavalieri Prato
Hywel Stoddart from Newport RFC
Josh Tyler from UWIC RFC
Nic Cudd from Llanelli RFC
Owen Evans from Llandovery RFC
Liam Davies from Scarlets

Out
Aled Brew to Biarritz
Rhys Buckley to Doncaster
Royce Cadman to Doncaster
Luke Charteris to Perpignan
Hugo Ellis to Rosslyn Park
Keiron Jenkins to Pontypridd
Rhys Jenkins to Newport RFC
James Leadbeater to Newport RFC
Scott Morgan Coventry
Martyn Thomas to Gloucester
Jason Tovey to Cardiff Blues
Gethin Robinson to Newport RFC
Tom Riley Cornish Pirates
Gavin Thomas retired
Joe Bedford to Doncaster

and you can say that Dragons didn't replace the top players, they have one of the smaller squads, and look to be losing some top players again. Zebre look to have better NIQ players than Dragons NWQ players.

Where's the budget increase coming from (Brown, WRU, bigger crowds this year)? Will it make a significant difference? Other Welsh fans slate the Dragons acamady as not being that great as well.

Zebre on the other hand are backed by the FIR, and draw players from the Italian Rugby Federation Academy.

All I'm saying unless something special happens at Dragons, I predict that next year they will be in a tight battle with Zebre (and maybe a few others) at the bottom of the the table.

Dragons have never finished bottom, so I may be wrong, but I do recon that the bottom of the table will be a lot closer next year, and while it looks to me Connacht, and Zebre are moving forward Dragons are running to stand still.

It's very easy to look at volume and say that we're losing more than we're signing. But from the 'Out' list only Aled Brew, Charteris, Tovey, Martin Thomas and Gavin Thomas were front line players. Some of the others I have never seen play. Also, a lot of them are described as going 'to Newport RFC', which is part of the region and share training facilities, I.e. they're just stepping back down to semi-pro and can still be called up. So, the 'big guns' that have gone (5 in tha list) are a loss, but we've brought in quite capable people to replace them. Probably Brew and Charteris are actually missed. Of the others, Martin Thomas has been more than replaced with Dan Evans and Tom Prydie, Gavin Thomas has allowed Lewis Evans to play more and has led to a number of MOMs and club captaincy, plus Nic Cudd has been signed and got MOM against Wasps the other night. Tovey: I was never a big fan, seems a bit lazy and inconsistent to me. Does not feature much for the blues, so that says it all. Staffan Jones seems an able replacement. Dan Evans can play 10 too (badly the other night!), and Robling is a prospect.

Not saying that this makes us anything other than poor, but posting 'In' vs 'Out' lists does not always paint an accurate picture, especially when a lot of the 'Outs' are out because they're shoite.

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