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Post by Marky Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:17 am

Lord Azzy wrote:The task:
I want you to present to me a vision. A vision of what football really means to you. And to do that, I'm giving you £125m to spend.

With that £125m, I want you to buy a team of 18 footballers, using their TM values as of 25 January 2012 (prepare now but check the values don't go up when you submit). For this 18-man squad, I want you to provide a starting XI, and a briefing on how you want them to play. Not tactics as such, but I want you to inspire the players with a vision for how you want them to play the game.

Now, to help you, I am going to offer you the chance to purchase a manager. You can have another £25m for this - anything you don't spend can be put towards your squad purchases. The manager will be the person who will carry out your vision, who will put it into practice and get the players playing the way you want them to. Not to say that you're choosing the manager's vision of course, but if your vision is of lumping it to Andy Carroll, don't choose Wenger! Manager prices are as follows:

Pep Guardiola - £25m
Jose Mourinho - £25m
Sir Alex Ferguson - £25m
Roberto Mancini - £20m
Arsene Wenger - £20m
Guus Hiddink - £17.5m
Tito Vilanova - £17.5m
Jupp Heynckes - £16.5m
Andre Villas-Boas - £15m
Jürgen Klopp - £15m
Massimiliano Allegri - £15m
Marcelo Bielsa - £13.5m
David Moyes - £13.5m
Diego Simeone - £12.5m
Brendan Rogers - £12.5m
Antonio Conte - £12.5m
Manuel Pellegrini - £10m
Rafael Benítez - £10m
Michael Laudrup - £8m
Chris Hughton - £5m

I will be judging this task on three aspects:

1. The starting XI, including chemistry between players (ie, they have to complement your vision)
2. The substitutes, so you don't buy any old toot to make your first team look better
3. Your vision, including whether your manager is capable of carrying it off

The team with the best XI, subs and vision will win - the prize is still to be determined. Good luck one and all!

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Post by Fernando Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:18 am

Morning Fifabiatch thumbsup ive got a snow day and there's lots of it Smile

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Post by Marky Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:22 am

Then lets make a start Team Marky 3559488474

It's literally me you and Viva, CF can get involved but highly unlikely he'll want to, and Fan isn't around for personal reasons.

Which bit would you prefer to crack on with?

Vision, manager or squad?

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Post by Fernando Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:25 am

Vision would be the best 1st then you know what kind of manager to get OK

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Post by Marky Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:29 am

Some visions would be like "The Wenger way" or "The Mourinho way" or "The Guardiola way", or we go for something that hasn't really been done yet and try to use innovation to our advantage.

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Post by Fernando Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:35 am

We could do but we'd need a pretty excellent innovation cos lets face it all 3 of them are proven to work and this wouldnt be

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Post by Marky Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:40 am

Which of the three would you suggest then? If we were to choose such a high profile manager?

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Post by Fernando Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:44 am

Personally id go down the Mourinho way he's side could always defend well which left his attackers to do the work OK

If want to play decent football (not Mourinho way) there plenty of choice manager wise
Laudrup/Rodgers/Klopp/Villanova OK

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Post by Marky Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:51 am

I'm working on writing something for the vision as it's about my vision, so what i'll do is post my vision and then if it's ok, get you and Viva (and possibly CF) to suggest first a manager to fit around the vision, and then the players.

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Post by FIFA Diva Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:51 am

Mourinho has always had good teams and just needed to tweak them and leaves them team just as they need rebuilding. I wouldn't be looking at him to make our vision come through as it takes patience which is something I yet too see from him.
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Post by FIFA Diva Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:52 am

Yeah that's fine we need a vision to focus on before we pick the manager.
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Post by Fernando Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:02 am

Should actually be a decent task this because if everything doesn't match your pretty ****ed thumbsup

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Post by Marky Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:03 am

"A vision of what football really means to you"

To me, Football has always been about winning. Naturally it would be ideal to win playing a beautiful passing game, but unless you're Barcelona you have to compromise somewhere to be successful. At Chelsea, Roman's vision was to win with beautiful football, but to win the prize that eluded him the longest, his side showed significant levels of grit, determination and real hard work.

As a Crawley Town fan, my ideal vision has always been to play a passing game rather than a long ball game, but with winning being the main focus rather than style. It would be an old fashioned vision, with a 4-4-2 formation, pacy tricky wingers and good passers of the ball, both box to box style, in the centre of midfield. A good strike partnership upfront, maybe one with the ability to hold up play and a quicker strike partner to make runs in behind and get shots in on goal. That has actually happened at times at Crawley Town, honest! But my vision would be similar tactics on a bigger scale and at a higher level.

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Post by Marky Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:04 am

When I wrote about the front two, Adebayor and Defoe popped into my head as they are playing well together at Spurs this season.

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Post by Bull Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:05 am

thats a pretty cool idea

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Post by FIFA Diva Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:08 am

This seems realistic enough and I'd have gone with something like that. You can't expect to play Barca style with our budget. We'd like to play good football but have to mix it up with the longer balls.

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Post by Marky Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:08 am

Pep Guardiola - £25m
Jose Mourinho - £25m
Sir Alex Ferguson - £25m
Roberto Mancini - £20m
Arsene Wenger - £20m
Guus Hiddink - £17.5m
Tito Vilanova - £17.5m
Jupp Heynckes - £16.5m
Andre Villas-Boas - £15m
Jürgen Klopp - £15m
Massimiliano Allegri - £15m
Marcelo Bielsa - £13.5m
David Moyes - £13.5m
Diego Simeone - £12.5m
Brendan Rogers - £12.5m
Antonio Conte - £12.5m
Manuel Pellegrini - £10m
Rafael Benítez - £10m
Michael Laudrup - £8m
Chris Hughton - £5m

Who fits the vision?


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Post by Marky Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:09 am

Or more aptly, who doesn't fit the vision?

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Post by Fernando Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:09 am

Personally under that id choose David Moyes as manager they play 4-4-1-1 with lumping the ball to Fellaini so can just turn that into 4-4-2 OK

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Post by FIFA Diva Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:11 am

If we go with that style Moyes is the one that attracts me.
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Post by Marky Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:12 am

I've kept Sir Alex Ferguson on the list as Man U do play 4-4-2 regularly, would be an expensive choice though.

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Post by Fernando Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:12 am

Does it have to be a manager on that list? could always try and use Tony Pulis he plays 4-4-2 with lumping it everynow and again OK

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Post by Marky Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:14 am

I know i'm the captain but if both of you think Moyes is the man, then i'm very happy to go with Moyes. Either of you able to write something in regards to why Moyes is ideal?

I've got to go to work now, have been at work all morning but now I have to go to a job! If we're decided on that vision and on David Moyes as manager, feel free to have a scan of TM and suggest players for our first XI for a 4-4-2. Choose 2/3 each for each position and we can narrow it down from there.

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Post by Marky Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:14 am

Fernando wrote:Does it have to be a manager on that list? could always try and use Tony Pulis he plays 4-4-2 with lumping it everynow and again OK

Not interested in Pulis to be honest.

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Post by Marky Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:16 am

Chicharito would be great as the smaller striker, but up to you two.

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Post by Fernando Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:17 am

fair point i wouldn't bother with getting me to write up things not a strong point of mine Laugh


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Post by Bull Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:17 am

Go with Klopp OK

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Post by Marky Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:19 am

TheBrahmaBull wrote:Go with Klopp OK

Thing is, you say go with Klopp because you're a big fan of the Dortmund style. But we're not playing a Dortmund style, so he wouldn't fit.

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Post by Bull Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:21 am

You know Dortmund Style is a song lol but fair point

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Post by FIFA Diva Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:21 am

I don't mind writing it up, what manager would you go with Marky? Thing with SAF is how long does he have left? Enough time to complete our vision?

Bull I like Klopp and if it wasn't for the way we going I'd pick him but I think Moyes suits us better.

I like Pullis makes his teams hard to beat but I feel we would be associated with hoof ball even if try and mix our Football up. At least with Moyes we know he is capable of playing both styles.
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Post by Marky Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:22 am

Not sure on TM prices, but the four strikers to choose from would be Adebayor, Defoe, Hernandez and Lukaku. Got to be 4 strikers in a squad of 18 IMO.

Actually going offline now, be on later. Suggest whoever you like while considering the budget.

Goalkeepers can be old, keepers like Brad Friedel would be very cheap on TM but still more than capable.

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Post by Marky Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:23 am

VivaPaulScholes wrote:I don't mind writing it up, what manager would you go with Marky? Thing with SAF is how long does he have left? Enough time to complete our vision?

Bull I like Klopp and if it wasn't for the way we going I'd pick him but I think Moyes suits us better.

I like Pullis makes his teams hard to beat but I feel we would be associated with hoof ball even if try and mix our Football up. At least with Moyes we know he is capable of playing both styles.

I think we're agreed on David Moyes. If you could do that and post it here, that would be brilliant mate OK

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Post by Fernando Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:23 am

Looks like it's down to us Viva, How do you want to split this position wise?

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Post by FIFA Diva Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:28 am

Yeah I'll do that most likely this evening as I won't have to watch over my shoulder.

If you want 4 strikers I suggest that one of the four should be more of a SS, creative player who can link the ball between midfield and strikers. If we're going with box to box midfielders they won't be as good creatively. We need the balance and options to tweak our formation depending on opposition.
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Post by FIFA Diva Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:31 am

One of us does keepers and defenders the other does midfield and strikers, I don't mind doing either.

Bull have a look at some bargain players for us.
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Post by Bull Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:32 am

where do you need improving? oh and what league ?

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Post by Fernando Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:33 am

ill take Goalkeeper and defenders Viva OK

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Post by FIFA Diva Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:34 am

Have a look in all leagues Bull and anywhere really if you find a cheap player that'd benefit us let us know.

That's fine Nando.
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Post by FIFA Diva Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:34 am

He said 2/3 positions for each position.
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Post by Bull Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:35 am


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Post by Fernando Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:39 am

Goalkeepers
Buffon: 8.8m
Krul 7.5m
Julio Cesar 4.4m
Diego Alves 5.3m
Ruddy 4m
Weidenfeller 3.5m
Howard 3.5m
Begovic 3.1m
De Sanctis 1.8m
Kameni 1.3m
Freidel 875k
Butland 875k

PS Bull stop helping it's not allowed OK

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Post by FIFA Diva Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:40 am

Sorry Bull seems like you're not allowed to help us. Azzy said so sorry mate, would have been a great help Crying or Very sad
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Post by Bull Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:42 am

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Post by Bull Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:43 am

oh right ok.

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Post by Fernando Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:43 am

you might want to remove your helping bullbo Whistle if your still able to

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Post by FIFA Diva Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:55 am


Centre Midfield
Nuri Sahin - £8.8m
Moussa Sissoko -£8.8m
Paulinho - £10.5m
James McCarthy - £4.8m
Tom Huddlestone - £5.3m
Victor Wanyama - £3.3m
Alberto Aquilani - £7.9m
Mohamed Diame - £4.4m
Ill get other positions in soon




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Post by Fernando Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:05 pm

Right Backs
Abate 10.5m
Arbeloa 10.5m
Azpilicueta 7.9m
Rafael 7.9m
Iraola 7m
De Sciglio 6.2m
Anyukov/Jesus Games 5.3m
Rafinha 4m
Uchida 3.5m
Jonathan 3.3m
Beck 3.1m
Angel Rangel 3.1m
Jenkinson 2.2m
Tiendalli 1.1m


Would be worth settling on a price limit for players say under 12m or less then that?

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Post by Guest Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:12 pm

I'll let the help so far slip, but no more Bull. If it transpires that you have helped, the team will be punished.

Next season though, you'll be in Team Marky 3559488474

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Post by Guest Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:41 pm

ok marky,do you need me?

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Post by Marky Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:59 pm

The more the merrier CF, if you have an opinion on certain players to fit in with the vision I posted earlier, let us know. Its my piece with as many different opinions and as much help as I can get thumbsup

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