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Post by Valero's Conscience Mon 21 Jan 2013, 12:41 pm

Top Tank have confirmed a big name will be fighting Bradley in March and the rumour is it's Gamboa!

I'll be suprised if it happend but very interesting to watch.

Height rise they are very similar as Bradley is a small WW but will surely out muscle Gamboa in the clinch. It surely has to be at 147ibs so Bradley can defend his title.

Bradley hasn't got concussive power so a sensible fight for Gamboa if he is considering a jump up in weight.

If true, how do you see acting out?

I think i'd fancy a Bradley points win as Gamboa is completely untested at such a weight. Gamboa will still have more power IMO but not sure how his speed will be affected.


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Post by Rowley Mon 21 Jan 2013, 12:43 pm

Valero's Conscience wrote:Top Tank have confirmed a big name will be fighting Bradley in March and the rumour is it's Bradley!

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My money is on Bradley

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Post by 88Chris05 Mon 21 Jan 2013, 12:51 pm

Bradley must really, really, really be struggling to get opponents lined up if he's now casting eyes over a Super-Featherweight like Gamboa!

I like Gamboa a lot but if he jumps up to Welter to take on Bradley I think he'll be stopped. His last fight demonstrated that, although he's got an incredible offensive arsenal, he's not immune to getting cleanly tagged and hurt himself and, as of yet, his chin hasn't had to digest any shots from a worthwhile opponent weighing any more than 130 lb. Even if Bradley drags himself back down to Light-Welter to make it happen I think Gamboa is going to have to be on his bike all night to have a chance.

Pacquiao showed that Bradley is a touch vulnerable to blinding speed, which Gamboa does have, but I just think Bradley will be too strong and robust for him, will be able to force the fight and cut Gamboa's space off and wear him down in the late rounds.
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Post by Valero's Conscience Mon 21 Jan 2013, 12:54 pm

Rowley wrote:
Valero's Conscience wrote:Top Tank have confirmed a big name will be fighting Bradley in March and the rumour is it's Bradley!

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My money is on Bradley

Just a slight error!

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Mon 21 Jan 2013, 2:25 pm

Odd fight but both are looking for big fights and this would be a big fight

Gamboa was huge at feather and looked very strong at SFW and was said to weigh on the night about 147 anyway for the Farenas fight where w did look a little vulnerable

Bradley is a very well puncher but is physically very strong and can bully someone without having power. He has a good work rate, quick hands, great upperbody movement, good footwork and a solid chin. Gamboa has great footwork, good upperbody movement, blistering speed, lot did power but a dodgy chin

Can't see Gamboa at 147 though unless he feels very confident (Bradley is a small welter too) and Bradley won't want to drop to 140. However, both might be desperate so it could happen. Gamboa is the much better fighter but if his power doesn't go up with him and his punch resistance doesn't improve bradley will make it very hard for him and past experiances say Bradley will win the decision whether the deserves it or not

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Post by mikeymax71 Mon 21 Jan 2013, 5:23 pm

Well the obvious fight must surely be Bradley against JMM. Manny will be out for sometime and I'm sure this fight could be squeezed in before another JMM/ Pacman fight takes place.

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Post by Gerry SA Mon 21 Jan 2013, 8:31 pm

It's being suggested that Bradley vs Gamboa is just a smokescreen.

Bradley is being lined up to face Mayweather on May 4, Mayweather sees Bradley as less risk that the hard hitting Robert Guerrero.

And obviously a unification would take preference over a mandatory against Guerrero.

Bradley's a punk anyway, was too scared to face Guerrero.

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Mon 21 Jan 2013, 8:53 pm

The hard hitting Guerrero, good one.

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Post by milkyboy Mon 21 Jan 2013, 9:09 pm

Yeh, punk, taking easy fights like manny

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Post by Gerry SA Mon 21 Jan 2013, 10:52 pm

Imperial Ghosty wrote:The hard hitting Guerrero, good one.
Go ask Berto how hard Guerrero was hitting...

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Post by Gerry SA Mon 21 Jan 2013, 10:53 pm

milkyboy wrote:Yeh, punk, taking easy fights like manny
You mean the only time he faced an elite fighter, he got his backside kicked...

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Post by milkyboy Mon 21 Jan 2013, 10:59 pm

Whatever you may think of the scoring, he wasnt too scared to face him. Hardly suggests he'd brick it against Guerrero

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Mon 21 Jan 2013, 11:22 pm

How many years is it since he stopped someone in a title fight Gerry? 5 isn't it?

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Post by Gerry SA Mon 21 Jan 2013, 11:30 pm

milkyboy wrote:Whatever you may think of the scoring, he wasnt too scared to face him. Hardly suggests he'd brick it against Guerrero
He fought Pacman for money, I couldn't careless if he was scared of Pacman or not.

Bradley rejected a fight with Guerrero, even after the rematch clause he requested was added to the contract. If that's not dodging tell me what is...

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Post by Gerry SA Mon 21 Jan 2013, 11:31 pm

Imperial Ghosty wrote:How many years is it since he stopped someone in a title fight Gerry? 5 isn't it?
And tell me how many times he's lost in those 5 years IG?

Oh yes he hasn't been beaten...

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Post by azania Mon 21 Jan 2013, 11:36 pm

How dare a boxer take the more lucrative fight. How dare a pro boxer fihjt for money. Are you for real Herrie?

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Post by Gerry SA Mon 21 Jan 2013, 11:39 pm

azania wrote:How dare a boxer take the more lucrative fight. How dare a pro boxer fihjt for money. Are you for real Herrie?
It's Gerry not Herrie, but whatever rocks your boat fella...

The Bradley vs Guerrero fight was offered after Bradley's tainted victory over Pacman.

So Bradley wasn't risking his $7.5m payday.

Unless I'm mistaken Bradley hasn't landed a fight since Pacman...

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Mon 21 Jan 2013, 11:40 pm

Him being unbeaten isn't the issue here Gerry, you insinuated that his supposed punching power would scare Mayweather off, simply ridiculous statement on your behalf when he's not had a knockout in 5 years.

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Mon 21 Jan 2013, 11:41 pm

You talk non stop garbage as far as Guerrero is concerned, I like the guy but you make him out to be something he's not.

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Post by Gerry SA Mon 21 Jan 2013, 11:45 pm

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Him being unbeaten isn't the issue here Gerry, you insinuated that his supposed punching power would scare Mayweather off, simply ridiculous statement on your behalf when he's not had a knockout in 5 years.
Well considering Guerrero was his most powerful at Featherweight/Super Featherweight it's hardly surprising he's not been getting KO's at Lightweight or Welterweight.

Guerrero showed he still has power, against a proper 147 fighter Berto(2x champion), he floored him twice.

Timothy Bradley is a weak puncher, he's only got 1 KO in the last 5 years against a shot Joel Casamayor.

So Bradley is less of a risk for Mayweather then Guerrero.

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Post by azania Mon 21 Jan 2013, 11:48 pm

Well you have a point. Bradley ducked Khan also.

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Post by Gerry SA Mon 21 Jan 2013, 11:48 pm

Imperial Ghosty wrote:You talk non stop garbage as far as Guerrero is concerned, I like the guy but you make him out to be something he's not.
So because I like a fighter, it means I speak 'garbage'?

Guerrero beats everyone everyone at 147 easy, apart from Mayweather and Juan Manual Marquez. But the latter two will know they've had to be at their best to beat Guerrero.

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Post by azania Mon 21 Jan 2013, 11:50 pm

Yep. Big punchrr at FW but crap at ww. Massive risk for a sturdy fighter like Bradley.

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Post by Gerry SA Mon 21 Jan 2013, 11:51 pm

azania wrote:Well you have a point. Bradley ducked Khan also.
Another fight where, at the time, it would've been a career high payday for Bradley.

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Post by azania Mon 21 Jan 2013, 11:54 pm

Lets ignore his management problems which meant he couldn't actually fight.

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Post by Gerry SA Mon 21 Jan 2013, 11:56 pm

azania wrote:Lets ignore his management problems which meant he couldn't actually fight.
True, but he never came out and said lets get it on either.

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Post by Gerry SA Mon 21 Jan 2013, 11:58 pm

azania wrote:Yep. Big punchrr at FW but crap at ww. Massive risk for a sturdy fighter like Bradley.
I don't think Bradley is that sturdy, his main weapon is his massive head.

If you can stop him butting you, you can beat him.

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Post by azania Tue 22 Jan 2013, 12:00 am

Gerry SA wrote:
azania wrote:Lets ignore his management problems which meant he couldn't actually fight.
True, but he never came out and said lets get it on either.

Whats the point in saying that when he couldn't fight him?

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Tue 22 Jan 2013, 12:04 am

Berto isnt exactly made of stone and isn't the best of fighters

Guerrero is decent but he still doesn't have a really good win on his CV and I would rate Peterson and Alexander at the same level (if not a higher level) as Aydin and Berto

Guerrero fought a good fight against Berto who fought the wrong fight but his lack of power and snap on his punches in the second half of the fight (including the Aydin bout) where evident and despite taking the shots well for a lightweight the right uppercut of both Berto and Aydin landed alot and a better fighter would take advantage of it

Guerrero-Bradley would be a good fight but I feel Tim wins as he can move his head out if the way of punches unlike the likes of Berto, Katsidis and Aydin who still had success agaisnt Robert

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Post by azania Tue 22 Jan 2013, 12:06 am

Gerry SA wrote:
azania wrote:Yep. Big punchrr at FW but crap at ww. Massive risk for a sturdy fighter like Bradley.
I don't think Bradley is that sturdy, his main weapon is his massive head.

If you can stop him butting you, you can beat him.

Errr ok

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Post by Gerry SA Tue 22 Jan 2013, 12:07 am

azania wrote:
Gerry SA wrote:
azania wrote:Lets ignore his management problems which meant he couldn't actually fight.
True, but he never came out and said lets get it on either.

Whats the point in saying that when he couldn't fight him?
It would show that Bradley COULD/WOULD beat Khan if they could square off.

Donaire-Mares both have declared they want to fight each other, but their promotes won't set the fight. The boxers are plenty willing.

Khan wanted Bradley, Bradley wasn't as keen.

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Post by Gerry SA Tue 22 Jan 2013, 12:10 am

WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:Berto isnt exactly made of stone and isn't the best of fighters

Guerrero is decent but he still doesn't have a really good win on his CV and I would rate Peterson and Alexander at the same level (if not a higher level) as Aydin and Berto

Guerrero fought a good fight against Berto who fought the wrong fight but his lack of power and snap on his punches in the second half of the fight (including the Aydin bout) where evident and despite taking the shots well for a lightweight the right uppercut of both Berto and Aydin landed alot and a better fighter would take advantage of it

Guerrero-Bradley would be a good fight but I feel Tim wins as he can move his head out if the way of punches unlike the likes of Berto, Katsidis and Aydin who still had success agaisnt Robert
Yeah I'll agree that Guerrero lost some of the pop on his punches as the fights vs Aydin and Berto went on, but he's still new at 147, against Berto he nearly punched himself out after 4 rounds. I guess he'll learn as he develops at 147.

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Post by azania Tue 22 Jan 2013, 12:13 am

Maybe Bradley thougjt it pretty pointless to say something thst was highly unlikely to happen.

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Tue 22 Jan 2013, 12:20 am

Gerry SA wrote: Yeah I'll agree that Guerrero lost some of the pop on his punches as the fights vs Aydin and Berto went on, but he's still new at 147, against Berto he nearly punched himself out after 4 rounds. I guess he'll learn as he develops at 147.

He's entering his prime years, he isn't going to drastically improve any more

Guerrero's game has always revolved around a high workrate to overwhelm his opponents but when he can't really hurt his opponents and gets tagged by welters it drains his tamarins and makes him vulnerable in the latter rounds.

He has also fought opponents who are there to hit like Aydin etc. Make him miss and his stamina will drop off even quicker

At this point the only way he hurts his opponents is to add muscle which will slow him down and wear him out quicker

He's in a catch 22 where he can't afford to change the way he fights at this point of his career without it being a major risk

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Post by Valero's Conscience Mon 28 Jan 2013, 12:09 pm

Gamboa has said the fight isn't happening as they couldn't agree on the weight.

Apparently Bradley wouldn't go down to 140ibs! Crazy if it's true as it still would have been massively in Bradley's favour.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 28 Jan 2013, 12:27 pm

Especially for a man that can't draw flies. Should be doing something to get a decent money fight arranged.

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Mon 28 Jan 2013, 12:41 pm

That's 2 fights he's turned down, first a petersons rematch and now Gamboa

He is fast becoming the forgotten man of boxing and given his already poor pull in regards to fans, he can't afford to fall off the map

He is NOT going to get Pacquiao or Marquez, he needs to accept that. The only fighters they will fight is each other. Arum won't let him fight Mayweather or any of the GoldenBoy stable including Khan, Ortiz, Berto, Guerrero etc so he needs to take what he can

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