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Bradley vs Gamboa
Top Tank have confirmed a big name will be fighting Bradley in March and the rumour is it's Gamboa!
I'll be suprised if it happend but very interesting to watch.
Height rise they are very similar as Bradley is a small WW but will surely out muscle Gamboa in the clinch. It surely has to be at 147ibs so Bradley can defend his title.
Bradley hasn't got concussive power so a sensible fight for Gamboa if he is considering a jump up in weight.
If true, how do you see acting out?
I think i'd fancy a Bradley points win as Gamboa is completely untested at such a weight. Gamboa will still have more power IMO but not sure how his speed will be affected.
I'll be suprised if it happend but very interesting to watch.
Height rise they are very similar as Bradley is a small WW but will surely out muscle Gamboa in the clinch. It surely has to be at 147ibs so Bradley can defend his title.
Bradley hasn't got concussive power so a sensible fight for Gamboa if he is considering a jump up in weight.
If true, how do you see acting out?
I think i'd fancy a Bradley points win as Gamboa is completely untested at such a weight. Gamboa will still have more power IMO but not sure how his speed will be affected.
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Re: Bradley vs Gamboa
Valero's Conscience wrote:Top Tank have confirmed a big name will be fighting Bradley in March and the rumour is it's Bradley!
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My money is on Bradley
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Bradley must really, really, really be struggling to get opponents lined up if he's now casting eyes over a Super-Featherweight like Gamboa!
I like Gamboa a lot but if he jumps up to Welter to take on Bradley I think he'll be stopped. His last fight demonstrated that, although he's got an incredible offensive arsenal, he's not immune to getting cleanly tagged and hurt himself and, as of yet, his chin hasn't had to digest any shots from a worthwhile opponent weighing any more than 130 lb. Even if Bradley drags himself back down to Light-Welter to make it happen I think Gamboa is going to have to be on his bike all night to have a chance.
Pacquiao showed that Bradley is a touch vulnerable to blinding speed, which Gamboa does have, but I just think Bradley will be too strong and robust for him, will be able to force the fight and cut Gamboa's space off and wear him down in the late rounds.
I like Gamboa a lot but if he jumps up to Welter to take on Bradley I think he'll be stopped. His last fight demonstrated that, although he's got an incredible offensive arsenal, he's not immune to getting cleanly tagged and hurt himself and, as of yet, his chin hasn't had to digest any shots from a worthwhile opponent weighing any more than 130 lb. Even if Bradley drags himself back down to Light-Welter to make it happen I think Gamboa is going to have to be on his bike all night to have a chance.
Pacquiao showed that Bradley is a touch vulnerable to blinding speed, which Gamboa does have, but I just think Bradley will be too strong and robust for him, will be able to force the fight and cut Gamboa's space off and wear him down in the late rounds.
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Re: Bradley vs Gamboa
Rowley wrote:Valero's Conscience wrote:Top Tank have confirmed a big name will be fighting Bradley in March and the rumour is it's Bradley!
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My money is on Bradley
Just a slight error!
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Re: Bradley vs Gamboa
Odd fight but both are looking for big fights and this would be a big fight
Gamboa was huge at feather and looked very strong at SFW and was said to weigh on the night about 147 anyway for the Farenas fight where w did look a little vulnerable
Bradley is a very well puncher but is physically very strong and can bully someone without having power. He has a good work rate, quick hands, great upperbody movement, good footwork and a solid chin. Gamboa has great footwork, good upperbody movement, blistering speed, lot did power but a dodgy chin
Can't see Gamboa at 147 though unless he feels very confident (Bradley is a small welter too) and Bradley won't want to drop to 140. However, both might be desperate so it could happen. Gamboa is the much better fighter but if his power doesn't go up with him and his punch resistance doesn't improve bradley will make it very hard for him and past experiances say Bradley will win the decision whether the deserves it or not
Gamboa was huge at feather and looked very strong at SFW and was said to weigh on the night about 147 anyway for the Farenas fight where w did look a little vulnerable
Bradley is a very well puncher but is physically very strong and can bully someone without having power. He has a good work rate, quick hands, great upperbody movement, good footwork and a solid chin. Gamboa has great footwork, good upperbody movement, blistering speed, lot did power but a dodgy chin
Can't see Gamboa at 147 though unless he feels very confident (Bradley is a small welter too) and Bradley won't want to drop to 140. However, both might be desperate so it could happen. Gamboa is the much better fighter but if his power doesn't go up with him and his punch resistance doesn't improve bradley will make it very hard for him and past experiances say Bradley will win the decision whether the deserves it or not
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Re: Bradley vs Gamboa
Well the obvious fight must surely be Bradley against JMM. Manny will be out for sometime and I'm sure this fight could be squeezed in before another JMM/ Pacman fight takes place.
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Re: Bradley vs Gamboa
It's being suggested that Bradley vs Gamboa is just a smokescreen.
Bradley is being lined up to face Mayweather on May 4, Mayweather sees Bradley as less risk that the hard hitting Robert Guerrero.
And obviously a unification would take preference over a mandatory against Guerrero.
Bradley's a punk anyway, was too scared to face Guerrero.
Bradley is being lined up to face Mayweather on May 4, Mayweather sees Bradley as less risk that the hard hitting Robert Guerrero.
And obviously a unification would take preference over a mandatory against Guerrero.
Bradley's a punk anyway, was too scared to face Guerrero.
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The hard hitting Guerrero, good one.
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Yeh, punk, taking easy fights like manny
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Go ask Berto how hard Guerrero was hitting...Imperial Ghosty wrote:The hard hitting Guerrero, good one.
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You mean the only time he faced an elite fighter, he got his backside kicked...milkyboy wrote:Yeh, punk, taking easy fights like manny
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Whatever you may think of the scoring, he wasnt too scared to face him. Hardly suggests he'd brick it against Guerrero
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How many years is it since he stopped someone in a title fight Gerry? 5 isn't it?
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He fought Pacman for money, I couldn't careless if he was scared of Pacman or not.milkyboy wrote:Whatever you may think of the scoring, he wasnt too scared to face him. Hardly suggests he'd brick it against Guerrero
Bradley rejected a fight with Guerrero, even after the rematch clause he requested was added to the contract. If that's not dodging tell me what is...
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And tell me how many times he's lost in those 5 years IG?Imperial Ghosty wrote:How many years is it since he stopped someone in a title fight Gerry? 5 isn't it?
Oh yes he hasn't been beaten...
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How dare a boxer take the more lucrative fight. How dare a pro boxer fihjt for money. Are you for real Herrie?
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It's Gerry not Herrie, but whatever rocks your boat fella...azania wrote:How dare a boxer take the more lucrative fight. How dare a pro boxer fihjt for money. Are you for real Herrie?
The Bradley vs Guerrero fight was offered after Bradley's tainted victory over Pacman.
So Bradley wasn't risking his $7.5m payday.
Unless I'm mistaken Bradley hasn't landed a fight since Pacman...
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Him being unbeaten isn't the issue here Gerry, you insinuated that his supposed punching power would scare Mayweather off, simply ridiculous statement on your behalf when he's not had a knockout in 5 years.
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You talk non stop garbage as far as Guerrero is concerned, I like the guy but you make him out to be something he's not.
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Well considering Guerrero was his most powerful at Featherweight/Super Featherweight it's hardly surprising he's not been getting KO's at Lightweight or Welterweight.Imperial Ghosty wrote:Him being unbeaten isn't the issue here Gerry, you insinuated that his supposed punching power would scare Mayweather off, simply ridiculous statement on your behalf when he's not had a knockout in 5 years.
Guerrero showed he still has power, against a proper 147 fighter Berto(2x champion), he floored him twice.
Timothy Bradley is a weak puncher, he's only got 1 KO in the last 5 years against a shot Joel Casamayor.
So Bradley is less of a risk for Mayweather then Guerrero.
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Well you have a point. Bradley ducked Khan also.
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So because I like a fighter, it means I speak 'garbage'?Imperial Ghosty wrote:You talk non stop garbage as far as Guerrero is concerned, I like the guy but you make him out to be something he's not.
Guerrero beats everyone everyone at 147 easy, apart from Mayweather and Juan Manual Marquez. But the latter two will know they've had to be at their best to beat Guerrero.
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Yep. Big punchrr at FW but crap at ww. Massive risk for a sturdy fighter like Bradley.
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Another fight where, at the time, it would've been a career high payday for Bradley.azania wrote:Well you have a point. Bradley ducked Khan also.
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Lets ignore his management problems which meant he couldn't actually fight.
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True, but he never came out and said lets get it on either.azania wrote:Lets ignore his management problems which meant he couldn't actually fight.
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I don't think Bradley is that sturdy, his main weapon is his massive head.azania wrote:Yep. Big punchrr at FW but crap at ww. Massive risk for a sturdy fighter like Bradley.
If you can stop him butting you, you can beat him.
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Gerry SA wrote:True, but he never came out and said lets get it on either.azania wrote:Lets ignore his management problems which meant he couldn't actually fight.
Whats the point in saying that when he couldn't fight him?
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Re: Bradley vs Gamboa
Berto isnt exactly made of stone and isn't the best of fighters
Guerrero is decent but he still doesn't have a really good win on his CV and I would rate Peterson and Alexander at the same level (if not a higher level) as Aydin and Berto
Guerrero fought a good fight against Berto who fought the wrong fight but his lack of power and snap on his punches in the second half of the fight (including the Aydin bout) where evident and despite taking the shots well for a lightweight the right uppercut of both Berto and Aydin landed alot and a better fighter would take advantage of it
Guerrero-Bradley would be a good fight but I feel Tim wins as he can move his head out if the way of punches unlike the likes of Berto, Katsidis and Aydin who still had success agaisnt Robert
Guerrero is decent but he still doesn't have a really good win on his CV and I would rate Peterson and Alexander at the same level (if not a higher level) as Aydin and Berto
Guerrero fought a good fight against Berto who fought the wrong fight but his lack of power and snap on his punches in the second half of the fight (including the Aydin bout) where evident and despite taking the shots well for a lightweight the right uppercut of both Berto and Aydin landed alot and a better fighter would take advantage of it
Guerrero-Bradley would be a good fight but I feel Tim wins as he can move his head out if the way of punches unlike the likes of Berto, Katsidis and Aydin who still had success agaisnt Robert
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Gerry SA wrote:I don't think Bradley is that sturdy, his main weapon is his massive head.azania wrote:Yep. Big punchrr at FW but crap at ww. Massive risk for a sturdy fighter like Bradley.
If you can stop him butting you, you can beat him.
Errr ok
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It would show that Bradley COULD/WOULD beat Khan if they could square off.azania wrote:Gerry SA wrote:True, but he never came out and said lets get it on either.azania wrote:Lets ignore his management problems which meant he couldn't actually fight.
Whats the point in saying that when he couldn't fight him?
Donaire-Mares both have declared they want to fight each other, but their promotes won't set the fight. The boxers are plenty willing.
Khan wanted Bradley, Bradley wasn't as keen.
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Yeah I'll agree that Guerrero lost some of the pop on his punches as the fights vs Aydin and Berto went on, but he's still new at 147, against Berto he nearly punched himself out after 4 rounds. I guess he'll learn as he develops at 147.WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:Berto isnt exactly made of stone and isn't the best of fighters
Guerrero is decent but he still doesn't have a really good win on his CV and I would rate Peterson and Alexander at the same level (if not a higher level) as Aydin and Berto
Guerrero fought a good fight against Berto who fought the wrong fight but his lack of power and snap on his punches in the second half of the fight (including the Aydin bout) where evident and despite taking the shots well for a lightweight the right uppercut of both Berto and Aydin landed alot and a better fighter would take advantage of it
Guerrero-Bradley would be a good fight but I feel Tim wins as he can move his head out if the way of punches unlike the likes of Berto, Katsidis and Aydin who still had success agaisnt Robert
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Maybe Bradley thougjt it pretty pointless to say something thst was highly unlikely to happen.
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Gerry SA wrote: Yeah I'll agree that Guerrero lost some of the pop on his punches as the fights vs Aydin and Berto went on, but he's still new at 147, against Berto he nearly punched himself out after 4 rounds. I guess he'll learn as he develops at 147.
He's entering his prime years, he isn't going to drastically improve any more
Guerrero's game has always revolved around a high workrate to overwhelm his opponents but when he can't really hurt his opponents and gets tagged by welters it drains his tamarins and makes him vulnerable in the latter rounds.
He has also fought opponents who are there to hit like Aydin etc. Make him miss and his stamina will drop off even quicker
At this point the only way he hurts his opponents is to add muscle which will slow him down and wear him out quicker
He's in a catch 22 where he can't afford to change the way he fights at this point of his career without it being a major risk
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Re: Bradley vs Gamboa
Gamboa has said the fight isn't happening as they couldn't agree on the weight.
Apparently Bradley wouldn't go down to 140ibs! Crazy if it's true as it still would have been massively in Bradley's favour.
Apparently Bradley wouldn't go down to 140ibs! Crazy if it's true as it still would have been massively in Bradley's favour.
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Especially for a man that can't draw flies. Should be doing something to get a decent money fight arranged.
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Re: Bradley vs Gamboa
That's 2 fights he's turned down, first a petersons rematch and now Gamboa
He is fast becoming the forgotten man of boxing and given his already poor pull in regards to fans, he can't afford to fall off the map
He is NOT going to get Pacquiao or Marquez, he needs to accept that. The only fighters they will fight is each other. Arum won't let him fight Mayweather or any of the GoldenBoy stable including Khan, Ortiz, Berto, Guerrero etc so he needs to take what he can
He is fast becoming the forgotten man of boxing and given his already poor pull in regards to fans, he can't afford to fall off the map
He is NOT going to get Pacquiao or Marquez, he needs to accept that. The only fighters they will fight is each other. Arum won't let him fight Mayweather or any of the GoldenBoy stable including Khan, Ortiz, Berto, Guerrero etc so he needs to take what he can
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