BBC 6 nations sign up SCW, but no Brian Moore?

by BATH_BTGOG Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:00 pm

From the BBC website

"England's World Cup-winning coach Sir Clive Woodward is joining the BBC to give his expert opinion on the Six Nations.
Woodward will join pundits including Jonathan Davies, Jeremy Guscott and Keith Wood when the opening games start on Saturday 2 February.
John Inverdale presents the BBC's TV coverage, with Eddie Butler, Andrew Cotter and Alastair Eykyn commentating."

No Moore? I hope they're wrong.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/21162741

by Jimpy Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:11 pm

I have three cats that could replace Butler, Cotter and Eykyn.

by captain carrantuohil Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:13 pm

Think that Moore will still be a match summariser, presumably riding shotgun on Butler. Matthews will be another, I imagine, and so will Andy Nicol, I expect. SCW is merely joining the studio talking heads, which will undoubtedly irritate half the forum.

by thebluesmancometh Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:14 pm

If Moores out, I'm out!!!

Where has he gone? Surely he wouldve left for only 2 reasons, better offer or sacked for doing something wrong.

by Effervescing Elephant Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:17 pm

Just tweeted Moore and he's replied that he definitely is commentating, whether we like it or not. thumbsup

by UlstermaninGlasgow Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:22 pm

I hope they manage to get Mossy and Shane Williams back as guest pundits. Two very insightful guys, and a damn sight better than Jiffy and Nicol...

by Cyril Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:23 pm

Effervescing Elephant wrote:Just tweeted Moore and he's replied that he definitely is commentating, whether we like it or not.

Hah, great reply BBC 6 nations sign up SCW, but no Brian Moore? 3497602689

by Sugarlump Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:28 pm

Cyril on 606v2 wrote:
Effervescing Elephant wrote:Just tweeted Moore and he's replied that he definitely is commentating, whether we like it or not.
Hah, great reply

Moore cracks me up, I love his lovehate/hatehate relationship with the poetry spouting Butler, let the battle commence! boxing

by nobbled Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:30 pm

UlstermaninGlasgow wrote:I hope they manage to get Mossy and Shane Williams back as guest pundits. Two very insightful guys, and a damn sight better than Jiffy and Nicol...

+1

by Geordie Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:32 pm

But we still have to put up with the feckin irritating and clueless Inverdale!!

How do him and that Adrian Chiles get these high profile spots???!!!

by nobbled Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:33 pm

Not really comfortable with SCW as a pundit - is it going to be a critical analysis or a "they're not doing it as well as I would" scenario?

Can't stand Guscott and Jiffy at the best of times, but adding SCW could be a disaster - hope I'm wrong!

by Sugarlump Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:34 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:But we still have to put up with the feckin irritating and clueless Inverdale!!

How do him and that Adrian Chiles get these high profile spots???!!!

It's not who you know, it's who you blow Whistle

by UlstermaninGlasgow Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:36 pm

I must admit SCW isn't too bad. His efforts on SKY at the weekend weren't too bad, and he does know what he's talking about, unlike certain former Wales and England players... Whistle

by red_stag Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:37 pm

Watch RTE instead.

You get a Punch and Judy show between the Pantomime Villain (George Hook) and the smiley Yes Man (Brent Pope).

Then you have either Shane Horgan or Conor O'Shea to talk the technical stuff.

by RuggerRadge2611 Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:37 pm

UlstermaninGlasgow wrote:I hope they manage to get Mossy and Shane Williams back as guest pundits. Two very insightful guys, and a damn sight better than Jiffy and Nicol...

+1,

Furthermore no Moore would be a mistake!

by Jimpy Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:37 pm

nobbled wrote:Not really comfortable with SCW as a pundit - is it going to be a critical analysis or a "they're not doing it as well as I would" scenario?

Can't stand Guscott and Jiffy at the best of times, but adding SCW could be a disaster - hope I'm wrong!

SCW provided punditry for the Tigers v Toulouse game last weekend. He was very good I thought, not at all like that.

by nobbled Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:56 pm

Jimpy wrote:
nobbled wrote:Not really comfortable with SCW as a pundit - is it going to be a critical analysis or a "they're not doing it as well as I would" scenario?

Can't stand Guscott and Jiffy at the best of times, but adding SCW could be a disaster - hope I'm wrong!

SCW provided punditry for the Tigers v Toulouse game last weekend. He was very good I thought, not at all like that.

I hope the same holds true for England then. Don't get me wrong - I respect the man - just not sure on the dynamic of having an Ex-England coach commentating.

by Luckless Pedestrian Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:03 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:But we still have to put up with the feckin irritating and clueless Inverdale!!

You can call him irritating (not that he irritates me) but I don't think you can call him clueless. Doesn't he still play?

On Jiffy, I think he's fine and he knows what he's talking about, but he shouldn't be allowed to be co-commentator on Wales games.

by Bathman_in_London Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:05 pm

It did seem in the weeks prior to the NZ game as if SCW was trying to talk himself into a director of rugby role I thought if you read his articles in the paper. That seems to have subsided now a little but if England dont do well i'm sure he wont be afraid to say how he would change it.

by damage_13 Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:20 pm

I wonder who they'll have in the studio for the French and Italian games.

Thomas Castaignède was good as was Ibanez.

by Glas a du Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:21 pm

Woodward is so blydi boring.

by Luckless Pedestrian Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:24 pm

Castaignède was very good. Cracking player too.

by Norfolklass Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:34 am

Glas a du wrote:Woodward is so blydi boring.

It's the utter smugness I cannot stand.

by thebluesmancometh Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:09 am

SCW is hardly a personality, but then neither is Guscott!

by Morgannwg Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:33 am

Glad to hear he will still be commentating. He's my idol.

by bsando Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:40 am

UlstermaninGlasgow wrote:I hope they manage to get Mossy and Shane Williams back as guest pundits. Two very insightful guys, and a damn sight better than Jiffy and Nicol...

+1

by Irishhoneymonster Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:57 am

red_stag wrote:Watch RTE instead.

You get a Punch and Judy show between the Pantomime Villain (George Hook) and the smiley Yes Man (Brent Pope).

Then you have either Shane Horgan or Conor O'Shea to talk the technical stuff.

+1

by majesticimperialman Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:05 am

I did wonder why he was commentating on the England New Zealand game when he hasn't been any where any Rugby chat since leaving the job. I guess now that the olympics are over. He has to have some thing too do.

I do hope that Moore will be on. Realy like him and his none bias views.

by 21st Century Schizoid Man Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:15 am

Yep really rate Moore as a 100% honest commentator - unlike utter pr**ks like Inverdale, Guscott, Davies etc etc

by Guest Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:56 am

Don't think my License fee justifies the BBC bringing in Woodward,
seen him on SKY sports recently and he doesn't add much beyond the persona a self help motivational speaker.
Little insight added just the word self-belief being thrown around a lot.

But if they dropped Inverdale and had Woodward as main man i wouldn't complain.

by Jimpy Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:56 pm

21st Century Schizoid Man wrote:Yep really rate Moore as a 100% honest commentator - unlike utter pr**ks like Inverdale, Guscott, Davies etc etc

Inverdale and Guscott don't commentate. Nor does SCW.

Davies does of course, and he is pathetic. Sounds like an air raid siren on runaway. Numbers! NUMBERS!

by Jimpy Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:57 pm

viewtothegym wrote:Don't think my License fee justifies the BBC bringing in Woodward,
seen him on SKY sports recently and he doesn't add much beyond the persona a self help motivational speaker.
Little insight added just the word self-belief being thrown around a lot.

But if they dropped Inverdale and had Woodward as main man i wouldn't complain.

And the prize for ironic statement of the universe goes to you.

by Looseheaded Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:37 am

I think everyone needs to lay off Jiffy.

I personally think he's great, is a bit annoying but so is Moore, doesn't change them being entertaining.

by Luckless Pedestrian Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:42 am

Jiffy knows his onions, he just needs to be nowhere near the commentary box when Wales are playing.

by gregortree Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:43 am

Jimpy wrote:I have three cats that could replace Butler, Cotter and Eykyn.

Is that their names Jimpy ?

by Jimpy Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:47 am

gregortree wrote:
Jimpy wrote:I have three cats that could replace Butler, Cotter and Eykyn.

Is that their names Jimpy ?

No, they're called Wotsit, Itchy & Scratchy.

I have a python called Trowzer too.

by gregortree Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:51 am

by 21st Century Schizoid Man Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:19 am

Jimpy wrote:
21st Century Schizoid Man wrote:Yep really rate Moore as a 100% honest commentator - unlike utter pr**ks like Inverdale, Guscott, Davies etc etc

Inverdale and Guscott don't commentate. Nor does SCW.

Davies does of course, and he is pathetic. Sounds like an air raid siren on runaway. Numbers! NUMBERS!

Doesn't mean Inverdale and Guscott are not pr*cks though ! Cool

by Morgannwg Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:23 am

Jimpy wrote:
gregortree wrote:
Jimpy wrote:I have three cats that could replace Butler, Cotter and Eykyn.

Is that their names Jimpy ?

No, they're called Wotsit, Itchy & Scratchy.

I have a python called Trowzer too.

So that's why WotsitsDad was your previous name. chin

by Jimpy Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:25 pm

21st Century Schizoid Man wrote:
Jimpy wrote:
21st Century Schizoid Man wrote:Yep really rate Moore as a 100% honest commentator - unlike utter pr**ks like Inverdale, Guscott, Davies etc etc

Inverdale and Guscott don't commentate. Nor does SCW.

Davies does of course, and he is pathetic. Sounds like an air raid siren on runaway. Numbers! NUMBERS!

Doesn't mean Inverdale and Guscott are not pr*cks though !

I'm sure since neither of them know you, they'd also jump to the conclusion that you were too.

For what its worth, I don't mind Guscott, but Inverdale does annoy me. However, its only a matter of personal taste, we all have to work alongside or know people we dislike, but at the end of the day we just get on with it, because do you know what, thats kind of what grown ups are supposed to do.

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