Normalised Slam record service
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Normalised Slam record service
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It's interesting that some of the current players have an odd distribution of Slam wins which makes it tricky to compare the magnitude of their achievements, great as they all are.
I therefore present a sensible and balanced scheme to apply to Slam wins, based on the following;
Australian: a great tournament and worthy Slam event, it recovered after being an optional event 30 years ago. Not exactly steeped in history but a top event. Slam weight : 1.
US Open: in contrast this event has slightly lost its way, but has incredible history. Slam weight : 1.6
French: self-consciously trying to rebrand as Roland Garros to emulate that which is to come, but it retains great value as the sole representative of the important clay surface. I think it's moved to #2 status. Slam weight : 1.7
Wimbledon: obviously the great tournament of all, it has everything from history, surface, everything. The one the players all want. Slam weight : a miserly 2
So the corrected Slam count of the current top guys is;
Federer: (7*2) + (1*1.7) + (5*1.6) + (4*1) = 27.7
Nadal: (2*2) + (8*1.7) + (1*1.6) + (1*1) = 20.2
Djokovic: (1*2) + (1*1.6) + (4*1) = 7.6
Murray: (1*1.6) + (1*2) = 3.6
I think this about right. I'm prepared to listen to arguments that I've underestimated the value of Wimbledon, or the USO / French order. Nothing is perfect.
It's interesting that some of the current players have an odd distribution of Slam wins which makes it tricky to compare the magnitude of their achievements, great as they all are.
I therefore present a sensible and balanced scheme to apply to Slam wins, based on the following;
Australian: a great tournament and worthy Slam event, it recovered after being an optional event 30 years ago. Not exactly steeped in history but a top event. Slam weight : 1.
US Open: in contrast this event has slightly lost its way, but has incredible history. Slam weight : 1.6
French: self-consciously trying to rebrand as Roland Garros to emulate that which is to come, but it retains great value as the sole representative of the important clay surface. I think it's moved to #2 status. Slam weight : 1.7
Wimbledon: obviously the great tournament of all, it has everything from history, surface, everything. The one the players all want. Slam weight : a miserly 2
So the corrected Slam count of the current top guys is;
Federer: (7*2) + (1*1.7) + (5*1.6) + (4*1) = 27.7
Nadal: (2*2) + (8*1.7) + (1*1.6) + (1*1) = 20.2
Djokovic: (1*2) + (1*1.6) + (4*1) = 7.6
Murray: (1*1.6) + (1*2) = 3.6
I think this about right. I'm prepared to listen to arguments that I've underestimated the value of Wimbledon, or the USO / French order. Nothing is perfect.
Last edited by bogbrush on Mon 08 Jul 2013, 5:56 pm; edited 2 times in total
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Re: Normalised Slam record service
I agree. Murray did not win Wimbledon in the 1970s or 80s.
Nor did I say he was a regular baseliner. Did I say that? No. Please don't embarrass yourself by making things up and then arguing against imaginary posts.
But he was a baseliner, and his rivals knew that they had to change their game to overcome that fact that he was fitter than they were - unless, like Mac, they had more natural talent.
Nor did I say he was a regular baseliner. Did I say that? No. Please don't embarrass yourself by making things up and then arguing against imaginary posts.
But he was a baseliner, and his rivals knew that they had to change their game to overcome that fact that he was fitter than they were - unless, like Mac, they had more natural talent.
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Re: Normalised Slam record service
The best way of saying Borg was a fantastic all-rounder is by pointing to his titles...64 of them. Out of those 30 were on clay and 21 on indoor carpet! Two completely contrasting surfaces, his adaptability was astounding.
Murray has it in him for attacking play but he's decided on the aggressive counter punching route. Claywise his movement just isn't good enough.
Murray has it in him for attacking play but he's decided on the aggressive counter punching route. Claywise his movement just isn't good enough.
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