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Post by Commander Wed 30 Jan 2013, 10:21 pm

Tubagus Sakti, a 17-year old Indonesian boxer, died over the weekend after suffering a knockout loss to countryman Ichal Tobida. The referee stopped the fight in the 8th round when Sakti put his hands in the air as if to give up. Tobida threw a few more uncontested shots while the referee tried to stop the action. When the fight ended, Sakti walked around for a couple seconds before going into convulsions. According to the Bangkok Post, Sakti was then rushed to the hospital where he died of a brain hemorrhage.

Sakti had apparently been fighting professionally since he was 15-years old.



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Post by TheMackemMawler Wed 30 Jan 2013, 10:25 pm

Tragic. Too young.

Rest in peace.
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Post by TheMackemMawler Wed 30 Jan 2013, 10:30 pm

43 views.... not one response.

Thats what i hate...

Just because he isn't Corry Sanders, or some other variation of letters put together in the correct order to spell some famous name, his life is ignored.

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Post by John Bloody Wayne Wed 30 Jan 2013, 10:36 pm

Rest In Peace.

The next time I yell at the TV because the fight was stopped "too early" I'll remember this and shut up.

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Post by azania Wed 30 Jan 2013, 10:57 pm

RIP

I personally believe that that video should be removed from public viewing out of respect. It's not nice watching someone die.

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Post by ShahenshahG Wed 30 Jan 2013, 11:38 pm

Rip mate.


Mackem dont start this cowpat again. Alot of the hits on this site are from unregistered users. Thats why we usually end up with only tens of responses and hundreds or thousands of hits on some threads.

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Post by bellchees Wed 30 Jan 2013, 11:40 pm

Tragic. RIP.

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Post by spencerclarke Wed 30 Jan 2013, 11:52 pm

Horrible story. Rip.

Im glad this sort of thing doesnt happen too often.


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Post by joeyjojo618 Thu 31 Jan 2013, 12:14 am

RIP, agree with Az.

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Post by milkyboy Thu 31 Jan 2013, 12:15 am

Any death is tragic, but 17.

RIP

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Post by 88Chris05 Thu 31 Jan 2013, 12:23 am

Difficult to come up with anything that hasn't been said already, but a terrible shame and a reminder of just how much these fellas are putting at stake every time they step through those ropes. So sad, Rest In Peace.
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Post by azania Thu 31 Jan 2013, 12:35 am

One of the reasons I absolutely detest it when some boxers are referred to as bottlers or cowards.

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Post by Seanusarrilius Thu 31 Jan 2013, 12:43 am

Awful news. Once again we are reminded of just how brutal and unforgiving a sport boxing is

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Post by TheMackemMawler Thu 31 Jan 2013, 6:01 am

ShahenshahG wrote:Rip mate.


Mackem dont start this cowpat again. Alot of the hits on this site are from unregistered users. Thats why we usually end up with only tens of responses and hundreds or thousands of hits on som'e threads.

I didn't think if it that way. You've got a point.
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Post by TheMackemMawler Thu 31 Jan 2013, 6:05 am

I haven't watched this video, and probably won't.

....but it says a lot about people that we are compelled to.
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Post by hampo17 Thu 31 Jan 2013, 7:35 am

RIP, my feeling have been covered by everyone else. Really does show just how dangerous this sport can be.

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Thu 31 Jan 2013, 8:19 am

What a tragic tale. RIP young man.

My eldest boy will be 12 later this year. He does karate and has already said he would like to try boxing at some point. Stories like this, however rare, make me shudder with fear. The thought of him in 3 and a bit years being 'man' enough to fight professionally seems ridiculous.

I agree with Az completely, the mods should remove the video. I won't watch it and the story is enough without the clip.

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Thu 31 Jan 2013, 10:36 am

RIP, just a kid who loved his sport

Brings up the question for me of should boxers be able to turn pro before their 18 like they do in South America and Asia. I've never liked the idea as its putting a man against a boy like what happened in this fight where a 17 year old fought a 28 year old over 10/12 rounds

Disgusting that this can be seen on YouTube and needs to be reported and removed

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Post by captain carrantuohil Thu 31 Jan 2013, 10:41 am

Shows the awful problems that boxing will always have without a single, universal authority to run it. Awful incidents like this put the nonsense of multiple champions and spurious belts into their proper perspective, though.

How was it allowed to happen? What will the consequences be? I'm fairly sure that none will be the answer to the second question. God knows that the BBBC have their faults, but at least they generally do their job on the all-important question of safety. Such protection is the least that any boxer fighting in any country deserves.

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Post by Rowley Thu 31 Jan 2013, 10:51 am

Funnily enough was reading about the amateur Iain Weaver who has recently been denied a licence on the grounds of a slight abnormality on a brain scan. The piece stated he had two doctors letters saying he was fit to fight and you could get the impression that they BBBC had been a little punitive or inflexible in their approach on this. However things like this are a timely reminder than a too harsh approach is much more preferable to the other option when it comes to fighters safety.

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Post by ShahenshahG Thu 31 Jan 2013, 10:55 am

BBBOC are brilliant in that regard - You'd never get a brain damaged fighter being allowed to fight on their watch. I think they need to have Weaver Scanned Pre and post every fight and if there is even the slightest problem after fight then he gets license withdrawn.

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Post by Rowley Thu 31 Jan 2013, 11:29 am

Do feel a bit for Weaver. Saw him when he won his ABA title in Sheffield and had a quick chat with him and he seemed a nice kid and a decent fighter. Has had a run of bad luck on the back of missing the Olympic team and getting this news. Is really difficult because the BBBC’s position is perfectly understandable but you have to feel for the kid, particularly as he will have worked a long time to get to this point and it does appear the medical determination is not absolutely cast iron in him being at risk. Is a difficult situation all round.

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Post by melv500 Thu 31 Jan 2013, 11:30 am

Very sad, RIP.

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Post by bhb001 Thu 31 Jan 2013, 11:46 am

Very sad and emphasises the dangers of the game.

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Post by seanmichaels Thu 31 Jan 2013, 11:57 am

Whilst tragic, most contact sports are dangerous and accidents happen. This shouldn't be used as a stick to beat anyone with. Schoolboys have died playing rugby, pro footballers have dropped dead on pitches and apparently there is a massive story brewing in the states about NFL players and brain damage. At the end of the day I'd swap my job for a chance to be a pro at any of these sports even if I knew there was a decent chance I'd cop it or receive lasting damage.

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Post by Gentleman01 Thu 31 Jan 2013, 1:57 pm

RIP

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Thu 31 Jan 2013, 5:41 pm

Truly sad

RIP.

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Post by Duty281 Thu 31 Jan 2013, 5:46 pm

Horrible news to hear about, may this young man rest in peace.

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Post by The Boss Thu 31 Jan 2013, 6:37 pm

Very sad! RIP!

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 31 Jan 2013, 7:16 pm

Sounds like the added punches weren't an issue......

These things happen I'm afraid which sounds callous.........

Unfortunately it doesn't make it easier to his family that they knew the risks..

The lottery of life....let's hope he's at peace..

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Post by severe-mma Thu 31 Jan 2013, 7:27 pm

Its a risk all fighters take which is why MMA and boxing MUST be respected.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 31 Jan 2013, 7:30 pm

You mention mma a lot....what is the deal..

are you a fighter or promoter???

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Post by horizontalhero Thu 31 Jan 2013, 8:44 pm

WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:RIP, just a kid who loved his sport

Brings up the question for me of should boxers be able to turn pro before their 18 like they do in South America and Asia. I've never liked the idea as its putting a man against a boy like what happened in this fight where a 17 year old fought a 28 year old over 10/12 rounds

Disgusting that this can be seen on YouTube and needs to be reported and removed

Just playing devil's advocate here, but do you feel the same about fights like Benn v McClellan, or Eubank Watson, or Johnny Owen , or does the fact that these were great fights and the fighters well known make watching them acceptable? For the record I won't be watching this fight on you tube, but have rewatched all the other fights I mentioned there.

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Post by TheMackemMawler Thu 31 Jan 2013, 8:50 pm

Maybe time acts as some kind of moral filter?

I mean....

people watch documentary's about the holocaust but i doubt they would in 1946. If you get my point.

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