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Italy vs Wales Match Thread
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SIX NATIONS: ITALY V WALES
Venue: Stadio Olimpico, Rome Date: Saturday 23 February Kick-off: 14:30 GMT
Coverage: Watch live on BBC One Wales, BBC One HD, Red Button and online; listen on BBC Radio Wales & online and BBC Radio Cymru; live text commentary on BBC Sport website; watch again on BBC iPlayer; highlights on Sunday's Scrum V
Wales team to face Italy:
Leigh Halfpenny. Alex Cuthbert, Jonathan Davies, Jamie Roberts, George North, Dan Biggar, Mike Phillips; Gethin Jenkins, Richard Hibbard, Adam Jones, Andrew Coombs, Ian Evans, Ryan Jones (captain), Justin Tipuric, Toby Faletau
Replacements: Ken Owens, Paul James, Craig Mitchell, Alun Wyn Jones, Sam Warburton, Lloyd Williams, James Hook, Scott Williams.
Italian Team to Face Wales:
Andrea Masi (Wasps); Giovanbattista Venditti (Zebre), Tommaso Benvenuti (Treviso), Gonzalo Canale (La Rochelle), Luke McLean (Treviso); Kristopher Burton (Treviso), Edoardo Gori (Treviso); Andrea Lo Cicero (Racing Metro), Leonardo Ghiraldini (Treviso), Martin Castrogiovanni (Leicester, capt), Antonio Pavanello (Treviso), Francesco Minto (Treviso), Alessandro Zanni (Treviso), Simone Favaro (Treviso), Manoa Vosawai (Treviso).
Replacements: Davide Giazzon (Zebre), Alberto De Marchi (Treviso), Lorenzo Cittadini (Treviso), Quentin Geldenhuys (Zebre), Paul Derbyshire (Treviso), Tobias Botes (Treviso), Luciano Orquera (Zebre), Gonzalo Garcia (Zebre).
SIX NATIONS: ITALY V WALES
Venue: Stadio Olimpico, Rome Date: Saturday 23 February Kick-off: 14:30 GMT
Coverage: Watch live on BBC One Wales, BBC One HD, Red Button and online; listen on BBC Radio Wales & online and BBC Radio Cymru; live text commentary on BBC Sport website; watch again on BBC iPlayer; highlights on Sunday's Scrum V
Wales team to face Italy:
Leigh Halfpenny. Alex Cuthbert, Jonathan Davies, Jamie Roberts, George North, Dan Biggar, Mike Phillips; Gethin Jenkins, Richard Hibbard, Adam Jones, Andrew Coombs, Ian Evans, Ryan Jones (captain), Justin Tipuric, Toby Faletau
Replacements: Ken Owens, Paul James, Craig Mitchell, Alun Wyn Jones, Sam Warburton, Lloyd Williams, James Hook, Scott Williams.
Italian Team to Face Wales:
Andrea Masi (Wasps); Giovanbattista Venditti (Zebre), Tommaso Benvenuti (Treviso), Gonzalo Canale (La Rochelle), Luke McLean (Treviso); Kristopher Burton (Treviso), Edoardo Gori (Treviso); Andrea Lo Cicero (Racing Metro), Leonardo Ghiraldini (Treviso), Martin Castrogiovanni (Leicester, capt), Antonio Pavanello (Treviso), Francesco Minto (Treviso), Alessandro Zanni (Treviso), Simone Favaro (Treviso), Manoa Vosawai (Treviso).
Replacements: Davide Giazzon (Zebre), Alberto De Marchi (Treviso), Lorenzo Cittadini (Treviso), Quentin Geldenhuys (Zebre), Paul Derbyshire (Treviso), Tobias Botes (Treviso), Luciano Orquera (Zebre), Gonzalo Garcia (Zebre).
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Shame to see Gethin go off, hope he is fit for Scotland - though James is doing a good job
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Loose
Ye control is what he's all about, and where I don't think he was good against Ireland, and OK against France he is definately getting better as he gets more caps!!!
How good would he be if he was given a proper chance in the last 2 seasons?
Ye control is what he's all about, and where I don't think he was good against Ireland, and OK against France he is definately getting better as he gets more caps!!!
How good would he be if he was given a proper chance in the last 2 seasons?
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No need for comment there!!!
No need for comment there!!!
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2 short lineouts on 5 metres stuffed...whoever weslh lineout coach i should be lined up
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Italians really unlucky in the 2nd half
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Burton is definately hampering Italy here, his default setting is too negative!!!
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i'd like to see the ref do a little better at the breakdown. Players have been holding on to the tackled player far too long.
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Owens is overrated for me. I've watched him for years, and his lineout throwing is not great. Hibbard is our best hooker at the moment and Rees second best.
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what a pathetic decision.
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Italy yellow card... now we have to take points!!
We need to take at least 3 points off Italy in the next 10 minutes and the game is all but over, just WIN the yellow card period!!!
We need to take at least 3 points off Italy in the next 10 minutes and the game is all but over, just WIN the yellow card period!!!
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Castrogiovanni in the bin for ten. Wales really need to take advantage of that now.
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surely that was held up? it was off the ground?
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I'm liking our front row options at this level and U20 level atm to be honest!
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lovely line and try there.
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That set play for Wales and Cuthbert is so succesfull it's mad!!!!
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Castro's reaction to that try says it all.
Woooop! Nice one Cuffbutt.
Woooop! Nice one Cuffbutt.
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Haha Poite. That was a maul. Such an awful ref
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nathan wrote:surely that was held up? it was off the ground?
The maul? It never stopped moving!
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hmmmm, could of been done for blocking but still great line.
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Awh beautiful conversion by Halfpee.
9-26 at 62 minutes. Keep it up boys! Send them home.
9-26 at 62 minutes. Keep it up boys! Send them home.
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Nathan, you're very hard to please (from a welsh point of view)!
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LeinsterFan4life wrote:Haha Poite. That was a maul. Such an awful ref
Yeah a maul we won.
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Griff wrote:Nathan, you're very hard to please (from a welsh point of view)!
not at all, that was a great try. But it could of been done for blocking. just saying.
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Lloyd Williams on for Mike Phillips...don't know who's worse...
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The ball wasnt immediately availabe. The Welsh lads had to clear players out.Morgannwg wrote:LeinsterFan4life wrote:Haha Poite. That was a maul. Such an awful ref
Yeah a maul we won.
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Morgannwg wrote:LeinsterFan4life wrote:Haha Poite. That was a maul. Such an awful ref
Yeah a maul we won.
shouldn't it of been a scrum then?
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The ball was off the ground and was lost for at least 7/8 seconds, if that was Ireland they'd have all been screaming turnover and wouldve gotten the scrum!!
I'm with nathan, we were very lucky to keep that baal from the maul, it was unplayable for a while!!
The ball was off the ground and was lost for at least 7/8 seconds, if that was Ireland they'd have all been screaming turnover and wouldve gotten the scrum!!
I'm with nathan, we were very lucky to keep that baal from the maul, it was unplayable for a while!!
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Genuine question, it was a maul Wales took it in, the welsh player was held up. Does that not mean it is a scrum to Italy.
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Cari wrote:Lloyd Williams on for Mike Phillips...don't know who's worse...
Cari, they've got a mixture of attributes that would be very good combined into one! Maybe they should both play.
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get burton off!!
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cakeordeath wrote:Genuine question, it was a maul Wales took it in, the welsh player was held up. Does that not mean it is a scrum to Italy.
Which one?
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We know which one, it shouldve been a scrum to Italy!!!
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I don't think that was a block at all, just a collision of a dummy runner and a defender nowhere near the ball.
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Was the ball held up though, or was it on the floor? I couldn't see either through my TV.
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thebluesmancometh wrote:I don't think that was a block at all, just a collision of a dummy runner and a defender nowhere near the ball.
to be fair, wales just scored a try with a very similar block. But wales are playing all the rugby so i guess decisions will go with them.
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Nor could Falatau Griff, he stood there for a while looking = unplayable from the maul = Italy scrum!
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Bloody hell, easy day at the office for Wales. Burton has been terrible at 10, missing parisse big time at 8! Everything has been so one dimensional. I know its wet but still Italy look like a shadow of the team who put away France.
Good news is my £10 bet is gonna win!
Good news is my £10 bet is gonna win!
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LeinsterFan4life wrote:The ball wasnt immediately availabe. The Welsh lads had to clear players out.Morgannwg wrote:LeinsterFan4life wrote:Haha Poite. That was a maul. Such an awful ref
Yeah a maul we won.
After it went down the Italian player was lying all over MP and didn't roll away, otherwise we could have presented the ball quickly and cleanly. It should have been a penalty to Wales but Poite continued with play.
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Griff wrote:Cari wrote:Lloyd Williams on for Mike Phillips...don't know who's worse...
Cari, they've got a mixture of attributes that would be very good combined into one! Maybe they should both play.
Hmmm, I don't think they'll allow an eight limbed player.
Oh nice one lads. Took so long messing about making a decision, the binning ends. They should've taken a quick kick.
Hook on. Bread of Seven on for R-Jo too.
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James, Owens, AWJ, Hook and Warburton off the bench is great to see as a Wales fan, real quality!!
THANK GOD FOR HUGH, he's saved the 2nd half from watching in silence!!
THANK GOD FOR HUGH, he's saved the 2nd half from watching in silence!!
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nathan wrote:Morgannwg wrote:LeinsterFan4life wrote:Haha Poite. That was a maul. Such an awful ref
Yeah a maul we won.
shouldn't it of been a scrum then?
Good afternoon folks
Yes it very clearly was a scrum
What awful conditions the ball is very greasy, Gethin had an awesome first half, Hibbard in our mind was poor, Owen coming on deffo has made a difference to the lineout
Good to see Hook on but should have been brought on 15 mins ago
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Maybe I don't know the rules, but if the maul goes to ground and the ball is on the ground, but bodies on it, then it is not a penalty against the team that's took it in. If the balls in the air (not on the ground, then yes). But ball on the floor but made unplayable then you're given time to dig it out, or if it won't come out then the team going forward (Wales) get the put in anyway.
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Morgannwg wrote:LeinsterFan4life wrote:The ball wasnt immediately availabe. The Welsh lads had to clear players out.Morgannwg wrote:LeinsterFan4life wrote:Haha Poite. That was a maul. Such an awful ref
Yeah a maul we won.
After it went down the Italian player was lying all over MP and didn't roll away, otherwise we could have presented the ball quickly and cleanly. It should have been a penalty to Wales but Poite continued with play.
the ball wasn't on the floor, it was held up so italy could lay on it.
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good win wales..
you dont suck that much any more.
you dont suck that much any more.
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Morg
Noone has to roll away after a maul goes down, if your the wrong side youve done a good job and gain a turnover.
Italy have been a little unlucky so far today, but as the day dries up they are losing touch with Wales.
Noone has to roll away after a maul goes down, if your the wrong side youve done a good job and gain a turnover.
Italy have been a little unlucky so far today, but as the day dries up they are losing touch with Wales.
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The ball went to ground IMO but I'm not too bright in the area of 'maul' anyway.
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that wasn't a knock on as it came of his leg before hitting the floor.
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Nor are refs, they ping who ever isn't screaming the loudest IMHO.
Ireland get away with it all the time.
Ireland get away with it all the time.
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thebluesmancometh wrote:Morg
Noone has to roll away after a maul goes down, if your the wrong side youve done a good job and gain a turnover.
Italy have been a little unlucky so far today, but as the day dries up they are losing touch with Wales.
I qould say Wales have been very deffo the much better team, however Italy should have had a pen try and Biggar should have had 10 mins in the bin. Might have made a difference but not alot
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