Price-Thompson: Predictions?

by Mr Bounce Sat 23 Feb 2013, 12:45 pm

First topic message reminder :

Well, Thompson's come in at 262lbs, his heaviest ever. And judging by his comments about retirement he is expecting to lose. Price is at 247, the same as when he pancaked Harrison.

I don't see this going past 4 rounds, and if it does, it'll be target practice. Thompson turning up for a payday and hopefully showing slightly more than Johnson did against Fury. However, the first power shot Price connects with, Thompson goes down.

My actual reckoning is 2 rounds max, unless Tony gets lucky. It's going to be a walkover.

by jimdig Sun 24 Feb 2013, 10:59 am

Rodney wrote:Would Fury be a solid bookies favourite now if the matchup was made ?

He was almost 7/2 before last night

Cheers Rodders

Price has too much power to be that far behind in the betting stakes. I wouldn't beat against him KO'ing fury, but then again after last nights viewing the opposite looks more likely.

Price's training camp was with a southpaw crusier according to the commentary?? I'm guessing he wasn't 6ft5 like Thompson cause Price's control of distance was all wrong.

by paul12342 Sun 24 Feb 2013, 11:00 am

Price was always an accident waiting to happen. He was getting knocked down in the ams for goodness sake.

If you getting knocked down in a headguard and you opponents wearing massive gloves you not gonna fair to well getting hit in the pro ranks.

He has no chin what so ever

by **ShahenshahG** Sun 24 Feb 2013, 11:07 am

There a bit of truth to that - especially as Price was a fully devloped male rather than a Developing kid.

by Cast a Shadow Sun 24 Feb 2013, 11:12 am

Fury must be laughing his balls off - can legitimately claim that Price has been exposed and they have no need to fight.

Bit of a blow because I've never been sold on Fury, much more so on Price. But if the guy's flakey round the whiskers, he's gonna have to be very carefully matched to get him back where he was before tonight.

Fury vs Audley on Channel 5, anyone?

by J.Benson II Sun 24 Feb 2013, 11:25 am

paul12342 wrote:Price was always an accident waiting to happen. He was getting knocked down in the ams for goodness sake.

If you getting knocked down in a headguard and you opponents wearing massive gloves you not gonna fair to well getting hit in the pro ranks.

He has no chin what so ever

Yeah, he had a bad reputation for being glass jawed in the amateurs.

Camarelle totally blitzed him and hurt him with every shot he landed.
An inexperienced teenage Tyson Fury decked him.
During the 2006 Commonwealth games, an Indian dude called Varghese Johnson floored him on three occassions during their bout.

When Azania kept referring to him as being chinny, I honestly couldnt understand why others would say that Az's comments were baseless.

by **hampo17** Sun 24 Feb 2013, 11:31 am

I've just watched the Ingleby fight again (Prices debut) and Ingleby landed a flush shot when Price wasn't looking and it barely seemed to wobble him. Worrying when an arm punch does that though.

by Adam D Sun 24 Feb 2013, 11:33 am

I actually think he will have a pretty sore knee todays as well - he fell on it awquardly by the looks of it.

He was completely out of it and I am glad the ref stopped it. He had a real glassy look stare about him (although he did before the fight as well!)

I might give Peter Fury a call tonight to see if he wants another quick 10 minutes on the show!

by **ShahenshahG** Sun 24 Feb 2013, 11:35 am

Dont! I actually quite liked him, lets not ruin it by the undertone of gloating

by jimdig Sun 24 Feb 2013, 11:42 am

Adam D wrote:

I might give Peter Fury a call tonight to see if he wants another quick 10 minutes on the show!

Would love to get the Fury's opinions on last night, condescendingly respectful or completely critical, certainly entertaining.

by **hampo17** Sun 24 Feb 2013, 11:44 am

On twitter he says Price can always come back but they always knew he'd get exposed, and that if they beat Cunningham then Thompson is an option.

I'd rather see Fury go after Pulev to be honest.

by azania Sun 24 Feb 2013, 12:25 pm

victorgarco wrote:
azania wrote:
victorgarco wrote:
6oldenbhoy wrote:There will be a rematch clause in the contract. Get them back in the ring as soon as possible. I thought Price was too reckless tonight, earlier in the second he had Thompson on the ropes but was too busy trying to force the stoppage to think about his defence. Thompson was happy to absorb the shots then counter with a nice left hook.

Box more conservatively and if he uses his natural size and reach advantages he will more than likely win the rematch.

Rematch clause??? Surely that means Thompson is under a slave contract!!!!

I don't think there is a rematch clause though. In the interview Price's promoter said he HOPES that they will be able to get a rematch.

And Thompson was talking about fighting Fury next and no talk of a rematch/rematch clause.

Good grief vic you are a fool. But if you believe that is what I wrote then run along with that thought. But a piece of advice. When reading posts, move your lips. It could help you understand the written word.

No you fool. A rematch clause doesn't indicate slave contract.

hahaha it was you arguing before that K2 offer slave contracts due to rematch clauses hahah

by azania Sun 24 Feb 2013, 12:26 pm

Apologies for the above post. Using my phone.

by Champagne_Socialist Sun 24 Feb 2013, 12:34 pm

azania wrote:Apologies for the above post. Using my phone.

You probably need to apologise for a lot more of your comments.

by Imperial Ghosty Sun 24 Feb 2013, 12:37 pm

Az and I agree on very little (he got lucky with Price the sod) but the fact we both think you're a donut Victor, well you work it out.

by azania Sun 24 Feb 2013, 12:38 pm

Repeat after me. Offering a rematch clause is standard practice. Signing to fight your brotherthen you and then your bbrother whilst dictating what you will earn in each fight should have the gall to win is slightly different. And yes I have a copy of their slave contract with me.

by **hampo17** Sun 24 Feb 2013, 12:40 pm

This may give a few of you a laugh, Boxrec now have Audley ranked higher than Price.

by Champagne_Socialist Sun 24 Feb 2013, 1:48 pm

azania wrote:Repeat after me. Offering a rematch clause is standard practice. Signing to fight your brotherthen you and then your bbrother whilst dictating what you will earn in each fight should have the gall to win is slightly different. And yes I have a copy of their slave contract with me.

You're just making up their terms.

by azania Sun 24 Feb 2013, 2:00 pm

Nope. 3 fights with the brothers and options on future fights. Slave contracts. If you have evidence to show im wrong I suggest you post it. Otherwise admit im right again and move on.

by Champagne_Socialist Sun 24 Feb 2013, 2:07 pm

azania wrote:Nope. 3 fights with the brothers and options on future fights. Slave contracts. If you have evidence to show im wrong I suggest you post it. Otherwise admit im right again and move on.

Admit you're right hahah you have no evidence to suggest you are right. One of your sources Fury even admitted he has never seen one of their contracts.

You just make things up. And you obviously have no idea how to debate if you come up with a statement and then demand that i prove that statement wrong otherwise you are right.

by Cast a Shadow Sun 24 Feb 2013, 2:12 pm

The evidence in terms of what happens when one of the K's is beaten would suggest there is some sort of 'beat me and you'll have to fight my brother' thing going on .

None of us will have seen the black and white of the contracts, but history would suggest that is at least part of the arrangement.

Is it slavery? Not unless such rules are being forced on a mandatory challenger. All you can reasonably ask of a mandatory is to agree in principle on a straight rematch clause.

by azania Sun 24 Feb 2013, 2:18 pm

victorgarco wrote:
azania wrote:Nope. 3 fights with the brothers and options on future fights. Slave contracts. If you have evidence to show im wrong I suggest you post it. Otherwise admit im right again and move on.

Admit you're right hahah you have no evidence to suggest you are right. One of your sources Fury even admitted he has never seen one of their contracts.

You just make things up. And you obviously have no idea how to debate if you come up with a statement and then demand that i prove that statement wrong otherwise you are right.

Show me the evidence to prove me wrong. Also I have never used fury as evidence. Why resort to lies?

by Champagne_Socialist Sun 24 Feb 2013, 2:22 pm

Cast a Shadow wrote:The evidence in terms of what happens when one of the K's is beaten would suggest there is some sort of 'beat me and you'll have to fight my brother' thing going on .

None of us will have seen the black and white of the contracts, but history would suggest that is at least part of the arrangement.

Is it slavery? Not unless such rules are being forced on a mandatory challenger. All you can reasonably ask of a mandatory is to agree in principle on a straight rematch clause.

Wlads most recent loss was to Lamon Brewster and he never had to fight the other brother and it was 3 years later that he fought wlad again.

by Cast a Shadow Sun 24 Feb 2013, 2:24 pm

Ross Purrity and Corrie Sanders were the two who came to mind immediately. When Wlad lost to Brewster, wasn't Vitali officially retired?

by azania Sun 24 Feb 2013, 2:26 pm

Vit quit against byrd and byrd fought wlad next.

by Imperial Ghosty Sun 24 Feb 2013, 2:28 pm

There is significant evidence to suggest that such clauses exist in the K Bot contracts, the spoken testimony of their opponents namely, you may wish to ignore anything bad said about your beloved K bots Victor but you have zero to back up your claims that they're all lying.

by Champagne_Socialist Sun 24 Feb 2013, 2:28 pm

Cast a Shadow wrote:Ross Purrity and Corrie Sanders were the two who came to mind immediately. When Wlad lost to Brewster, wasn't Vitali officially retired?

Wlad lost to Purity in 98 and Purity fought Vitali 3 years later in 2001. Impossible it was a rematch clause. They just fought due to a natural cross over inn their careers.

by Champagne_Socialist Sun 24 Feb 2013, 2:30 pm

Imperial Ghosty wrote:There is significant evidence to suggest that such clauses exist in the K Bot contracts, the spoken testimony of their opponents namely, you may wish to ignore anything bad said about your beloved K bots Victor but you have zero to back up your claims that they're all lying.

I'm sure you follow me on this site. Stop stalking me.

by azania Sun 24 Feb 2013, 2:32 pm

Try responding to what ghosty wrote instead of running away from it.

by Imperial Ghosty Sun 24 Feb 2013, 2:38 pm

Don't flatter yourself kid, you only ever comment about one thing on this site, I fail to see the point of your existence.

by Champagne_Socialist Sun 24 Feb 2013, 2:39 pm

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Don't flatter yourself kid, you only ever comment about one thing on this site, I fail to see the point of your existence.

You are obsessed with me.

by jimdig Sun 24 Feb 2013, 2:39 pm

Is "slave contract" not an idiotic term. I would have thought being a slave, was to not have a contract. But haye never struck me as being a member of mensa. Jimmy Braddock took 10% of all future earnings that Joe Louis would make. Wonder how that compares to a kbro contract.

by KingMonkey Sun 24 Feb 2013, 2:41 pm

I've not read much of this but thought I'd wade in with my two penneth anyway.

When Price got Thompson on the ropes Thompson looked only very slightly rocked, his experience shone through but Price didn't spot it. Instead, Price seemed to think it was going to be another easy night. If he acted professionally, took his time and boxed at range he'd have had Thompson out of there inside the distance.

It seems though that Price is not made for a war. I know it happens, especially in the heavies, but at some stage he'll have to brawl and his technique deserted him..

by ONETWOFOREVER Sun 24 Feb 2013, 2:52 pm

KingMonkey wrote:I've not read much of this but thought I'd wade in with my two penneth anyway.

When Price got Thompson on the ropes Thompson looked only very slightly rocked, his experience shone through but Price didn't spot it. Instead, Price seemed to think it was going to be another easy night. If he acted professionally, took his time and boxed at range he'd have had Thompson out of there inside the distance.

It seems though that Price is not made for a war. I know it happens, especially in the heavies, but at some stage he'll have to brawl and his technique deserted him..

Very good point. I thought that when Thompson was up against the ropes near the corner he would get blown away. Price threw 3 or 4 useless shots while Thompson was peering through his guard. I thought that was strange. I expected Price to smash him but Thompson never looked bothered at all. I agree with you tho I don't think Price can war it out with anyone. He is very much in the style of Wlad jab jab straight right. No inside skills. Riddick Bowe was a big, tall heavy like Price but the man could throw leather in a war.

by azania Sun 24 Feb 2013, 2:56 pm

Price isn't very good. I think you should be honest about it. Not being very with a dodgy chin spells disaster.

Khan has a dodgy chin but has a great skillset. Good enough to compensate. The jurys out on price. Very Happy

by Gee Sun 24 Feb 2013, 3:04 pm

azania wrote:Price isn't very good. I think you should be honest about it. Not being very with a dodgy chin spells disaster.

Khan has a dodgy chin but has a great skillset. Good enough to compensate. The jurys out on price.

Khan getting dropped by the huge punching, not-blown-up-in-the-slightest Limond/Gomez and getting splattered by someone technically as poor as Prescott doesn't really tend to suggest he has a great skillset. Struggling to negate Garcia's one weapon and unable to deal with Peterson (who was completely shutout by Bradley) also lends itself to that way of thinking. Outboxed by Maidana for periods as well.

Not saying Price is the 2nd coming of Ali either. Am just merely saying your statement that Khan has a great skillset isn't exactly on the mark.

Price has time to come back. Still expect him to beat Fury if/when they ever meet.

by azania Sun 24 Feb 2013, 3:10 pm

Just watched it again. Price is shocking. Poor footwork and no head movement. No variety. Absolutely dire.

Khan has a great skillset but lacks the right mentality. if he gets his head together he will be superb.

Price? See him on prizefighter soon.

by Champagne_Socialist Sun 24 Feb 2013, 3:14 pm

azania wrote:Just watched it again. Price is shocking. Poor footwork and no head movement. No variety. Absolutely dire.

Khan has a great skillset but lacks the right mentality. if he gets his head together he will be superb.

Price? See him on prizefighter soon.

You sound like a broken record. How many times have you said Price is average? How many times have you said he is chinny? Give it a rest.

by Imperial Ghosty Sun 24 Feb 2013, 3:19 pm

Sorry Az but someone with a great skillset doesn't get beaten by Prescott, Peterson and Garcia.

by azania Sun 24 Feb 2013, 3:23 pm

In boxing you get hit. Khan is chinny so he gets beaten. I wouldn't count the Peterston fight against him as he was juicing.

Hearns had an amazing skillset yet he lost twice to a very average Iran barkley.

by Imperial Ghosty Sun 24 Feb 2013, 3:30 pm

An amazing skillset also includes the ability not to get hit clean all that often, something Hearns lacked and something Khan now lacks.

by paul12342 Sun 24 Feb 2013, 3:32 pm

Also im starting to hate this whole he got hit behind the ear and it messed his senses up theory which is what khan said about the garcia defeat also. Its boxing for goodness sake expect to get hit anywhere its part of the business..

Sadly Price got found out. Sadly unlike Fury he hasnt got time on his side and he has shown he has trouble getting up off the deck unlike fury.

I like Price he seems a nice enough bloke but i doubt he will come back from this .

by paul12342 Sun 24 Feb 2013, 3:33 pm

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Sorry Az but someone with a great skillset doesn't get beaten by Prescott, Peterson and Garcia.

Khans got skills he just cant stick to a gameplan and lets his heart rule his head.

by azania Sun 24 Feb 2013, 3:46 pm

Are you suggesting that hearns didn't have an amazing skillset ghosty?

by davidemore Sun 24 Feb 2013, 3:47 pm

Look at his amateur career. How many HW Champions do you know who have been put on their behind as much as David Price was as an amateur?

He lacks a chin.

The man also lacks confidence and it is seen in his performances. He starts slowly, he prods with his jab, his reactions are affected. He can look very stiff and confused by movement.

I have been saying for a long time how I felt Price was overrated and if he fought Fury he would lose.

Thompson was his biggest weight in years and 42 years of age. Yet, his movement and speed confused him.

Can David Price come back?

I don't think so, not with his chin history.

The post fight press conference says it all. Maloney selling the KO as a freak accident to protect his fighters confidence. A confidence he doesn't have.

Lets hope Frank recovers soon.

heart

by azania Sun 24 Feb 2013, 3:52 pm

paul12342 wrote:
Imperial Ghosty wrote:Sorry Az but someone with a great skillset doesn't get beaten by Prescott, Peterson and Garcia.

Khans got skills he just cant stick to a gameplan and lets his heart rule his head.

Agreed.

by **88Chris05** Sun 24 Feb 2013, 3:54 pm

Khan does have great skills, no question of that as far as I'm concerned. Unfortunately, much like Tommy, Meldrick and Zab before him, he's also as thick as two short planks to go with it, which has certainly cost him fights that he should have won, a common theme with all of those names.

That said, Price has skills as well, certainly offensively - so I can't fully agree with Az here! He's still a little amateurish in his stance and jabbing but does have genuine power, knows how to go to the body (as a side, what happened to Heavyweights working the high-low these days!?) and is pretty quick for a fella standing 6'8" and tipping the scales at the best part of eighteen stone.

As I said last night, I think we can be sure now that it'd be clutching at straws to suggest that his punch resistance - or lack of it - isn't an issue, as it clearly is. It's the mental toll which concerns me, rather than physical, because he has the raw tools to adapt his style and make himself harder to get to. Whether or not he has the mental strength to go about doing that with the same confidence which got him to that 15-0 record is another matter.

Last night was a shocker for Price, no doubt, and it'll take a lot of work to totally recover from it, but I'm not going to write the lad completely off just yet. Let's wait and see how he comes back from this before writing his obituary, shall we? He deserves that much at least.

by azania Sun 24 Feb 2013, 3:55 pm

Are you also agreeing that wlad has developed a great skillset ghosty?

by JabMachineMK2 Sun 24 Feb 2013, 3:59 pm

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by davidemore Sun 24 Feb 2013, 4:06 pm

Don't contribute then. A valid post.

by **hampo17** Sun 24 Feb 2013, 4:07 pm

Did we need another thread about the same subject?

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