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Post by Cari Sat 02 Mar 2013, 6:18 pm

First topic message reminder :

Munster

F Jones; D Howlett, C Laulala, J Downey, D Hurley; R O’Gara, C Sheridan; D Kilcoyne, D Varley, S Archer; I Nagle, B Holland; P Butler, T O’Donnell, J Coughlan. Replacements: M Sherry, W du Preez, BJ Botha, D Foley, S Dougall, D Williams, I Keatley, I Dineen.

Ospreys

R Fussell, T Habberfield, J Spratt, A Beck, T Isaacs, M Morgan, K Fotuali'i, D Jones, S Baldwin, C Griffiths, A Wyn Jones (Capt), L Peers, J King, S Lewis, J Thomas, REPLACEMENTS: M Dwyer, M Thomas, D Arhip, I Gough, D Baker, A Ellis/S Davies, R Webb, T Grabham.

Note: Sam Davies will make his PRO12 debut if he is used off the bench.

At Thomond Park , 6.30pm
Referee: Nigel Owens (WRU, 93rd competition game)
Assistant Referees: Mark Patton, Eanna O'Dowd (both IRFU)
Citing Commissioner: Eddie Walsh (IRFU)
TMO: Dermot Moloney (IRFU)

Live on RTE and S4C

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Post by wales606 Sat 02 Mar 2013, 7:44 pm

Excellent conversion

13 - 13
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Post by Cari Sat 02 Mar 2013, 7:44 pm

Morgs attempts conversion and it's perfick!!

13-13 at 52 minutes. Gaaaaaame oooon!

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Post by sheephead Sat 02 Mar 2013, 7:45 pm

JT and his attempted jar head touch down =D

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Post by Cari Sat 02 Mar 2013, 7:47 pm

BJ Botha on now whilst Archer's in the bin.

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Post by Golden Sat 02 Mar 2013, 7:48 pm

LeinsterFan4life wrote:Its amazing how quickly Archer is improving in his scrummaging.

Hes coming along nicely alright. I wonder how much of that is Bothas influence. If it is him then I guess hes earning his salary cause I havent been too impressed with him on the pitch this season.

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Post by Cari Sat 02 Mar 2013, 7:49 pm

Marc Thomas on for Duncan Jones. I think Jones needs to come off, even though Thomas is quite inexperienced.

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Post by sheephead Sat 02 Mar 2013, 7:50 pm

Can't see us getting anywhere with this game with the difference in class with front row subs =(

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Post by Cari Sat 02 Mar 2013, 7:52 pm

Oh dear Morgs, you over cooked that kick. O's making silly little errors now. Cool head boys!

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Post by Cari Sat 02 Mar 2013, 7:54 pm

Arhip is on now. He's quite good apparently. He can play at 1, 2 or 3. Doesn't speak much English though...

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Post by wales606 Sat 02 Mar 2013, 7:55 pm

Cari wrote:Arhip is on now. He's quite good apparently. He can play at 1, 2 or 3. Doesn't speak much English though...

Must make lineout calls difficult if he is playing hooker
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Post by Cari Sat 02 Mar 2013, 7:58 pm

Well, I should think he's picked up the important basics...he's settling into the region well by all accounts.

The two scrumhalves having a bit of handbags boxing

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Post by Cari Sat 02 Mar 2013, 7:59 pm

Nigel's missed TOD offside...shame Morgs couldn't get that intercept there.

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Post by Golden Sat 02 Mar 2013, 8:01 pm

Williams is just atrocious.

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Post by Cari Sat 02 Mar 2013, 8:02 pm

Nice one ROG - his mistake gives Sam Lewis some ball...but Munster get it back. This is a very tight game.

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Post by wales606 Sat 02 Mar 2013, 8:02 pm

Cari wrote:Well, I should think he's picked up the important basics...he's settling into the region well by all accounts.

The two scrumhalves having a bit of handbags boxing

Which two? Habberfield, Issacs, Fotuali? Wink
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Post by valjester Sat 02 Mar 2013, 8:05 pm

God, you can hear POC roaring from the sidelines, hopefully he will be back soon.

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Post by Cari Sat 02 Mar 2013, 8:09 pm

Come on O's...keep your nerve...patience....patience....

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Post by Cari Sat 02 Mar 2013, 8:11 pm

Nice one Laulala! He drops the ball....would've been over with that I reckon as well.

If we get a draw it'll be useful to us....but a win would be better.

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Sat 02 Mar 2013, 8:13 pm

That Moldovan prop has been impressive. Good find for the Ospreys scouts.

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Post by Cari Sat 02 Mar 2013, 8:14 pm

oof that was borderline forward pass...but the O's get away with it. makes no difference as Munster get possession.

Same Lewis is having a really good game. Potential MOTM. 4 minutes to go...

Everyone's expecting ROG to save Munster with the DG.

Nigel telling off Munster at the line out.


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Post by wales606 Sat 02 Mar 2013, 8:15 pm

Tight finish in sight
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Post by Golden Sat 02 Mar 2013, 8:16 pm

If Munster dont get the win surely theres no chane of them getting top 4

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Post by Cari Sat 02 Mar 2013, 8:17 pm

Munster are currently 6th. A win would give them more chance of making the final top four at least.

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Post by Cari Sat 02 Mar 2013, 8:18 pm

Brilliant! ROG attempts a DG and it's way off!!! Yahoo

Happy with that.

13 -13 FT.

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Post by Golden Sat 02 Mar 2013, 8:18 pm

Rog fluffs the drop goal.

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Post by wales606 Sat 02 Mar 2013, 8:19 pm

What an utterly ludicrous decision to take a DG from halfway, ROG has lost it
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Post by Cari Sat 02 Mar 2013, 8:21 pm

Yep, and yet Munster and Ireland still rely on him.

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Sat 02 Mar 2013, 8:22 pm

Im sure people will say ROG played well but You just need to look at Munster's attacking play and see how awful it was.

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Post by sheephead Sat 02 Mar 2013, 8:23 pm

A draw......its like thinking you've pulled a stunner and waking up next to ur sister! Or brother for Cari..
Unless she lying and she a Clive!

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Post by TJ1 Sat 02 Mar 2013, 8:23 pm

I thought ROG played well - some good passing flat and fast

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Sat 02 Mar 2013, 8:25 pm

He played well because he had some good passes? Sure isn't that what you expect from a rugby player?

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Post by Cari Sat 02 Mar 2013, 8:26 pm

Anyone know who MOTM was?

The table now looks like this:

Glasgow 61
Ulster 61
Leinster 59
Scarlets 50
Ospreys 47

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Post by UlstermaninGlasgow Sat 02 Mar 2013, 8:26 pm

TJ wrote:I thought ROG played well - some good passing flat and fast

The problem was it was all lateral... As someone else said, there were no inside balls, switches anything to change the direction. Not a criticism of ROG per say, more of Penney's style of playing. The O's made ground with the inside balls, and the only time Munster looked like making any headway was when the back row were offloading and using inside runners...
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Post by Cari Sat 02 Mar 2013, 8:27 pm

sheephead wrote:A draw......its like thinking you've pulled a stunner and waking up next to ur sister! Or brother for Cari..
Unless she lying and she a Clive!

laughing No I'm definitely not a Clive!

We really need to get some bonus points now because we're three behind the Scarlets and I don't want them in the final four. raspberry

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Post by Gibson Sat 02 Mar 2013, 8:28 pm

If ROG even sees the Irish Squad next weekend, it will be Kidney's biggest ever mistake. And he has made 4 years of them.

Jackson and Madigan.

Munster out of the PRO12 now. I still feel Os will make it over Scarlets, along with Ulster, Leinster and Glasgow. Nice spread.
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Post by Cari Sat 02 Mar 2013, 8:29 pm

Aye Gibbo, and we'll snatch the trophy of yous again! Wink

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Post by sheephead Sat 02 Mar 2013, 8:33 pm

I've been watching catfish on MTV so I'm on my guard. I thought it was just a point between us and the Turks Cari?

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Post by UlstermaninGlasgow Sat 02 Mar 2013, 8:34 pm

Cari wrote:Aye Gibbo, and we'll snatch the trophy of yous again! Wink

Nah Cari, we all know the trophy is headed North this year. Just haven't worked out which side of the Belfast-Cairnryan Ferry it'll be on... Wink
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Post by Notch Sat 02 Mar 2013, 8:34 pm

I think it's turned into the battle for 1st place (three horse race between Ulster, Glasgow and Leinster) and the battle for 4th with Scarlets, Ospreys and Munster still in it.

Whoever finishes 4th will be up against it, so you have to think the decisive games are coming up fast.

Leinster vs Glasgow
Leinster vs Ulster

If Leinster win both of those they have a great chance of home semi and home final at the RDS and no Heineken Cup this time. Hope I'm wrong, but the momentum from those two wins would make them favourites. I think if Ulster can get a home semi and final we'll win it. Finishing first is so crucial for home advantage. And if Ulster can pull off a massive result at the RDS, it'll really put the season back on track in a big way. Thats a big ask, but not impossible depending on how many of the injured guys we get back.

Don't see any of Scarlets, Ospreys or Munster challenging if they have to hit the road in the semis against any one of the current top 3.
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Post by Cari Sat 02 Mar 2013, 8:42 pm

sheephead wrote:I've been watching catfish on MTV so I'm on my guard. I thought it was just a point between us and the Turks Cari?

No, that's the latest on the Pro-12 website.

I reckon it'll be an Ulster/Glasgae final. Where they play it is another matter...Glasgow will be raging if they miss out again this year.

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Post by sheephead Sat 02 Mar 2013, 8:45 pm

Sorry butt, I mistake. I thought I saw the table on S4C. It would be nice for the Scottish to win it. Spread the love and all that!

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Post by Cari Sat 02 Mar 2013, 8:48 pm

No YOU'RE right! They must've updated the table again since. It's now:

Glasgow 61
Ulster 61
Leinster 59
Scarlets 50
Ospreys 49

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Post by sheephead Sat 02 Mar 2013, 9:03 pm

woop woop =D Im going to have to show the Mrs this thread. Proof of mw being right

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sat 02 Mar 2013, 10:16 pm

I was very pleased with Archer and Kilcoyne tonight, it has to be said. They are getting a good amount of game time with Munster.

Also, TOD deserves a shot with Ireland. He is so good.

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Post by George Carlin Sat 02 Mar 2013, 10:24 pm

Very charitable of you both - the best result for us Weegies - a draw with no try BPs.

Yoooooou, yooooouuu aw shucks, I mean you shouldn't have.

Bu thanks. heart
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Post by red_stag Sun 03 Mar 2013, 9:14 am

Hi all,

Have to say a very enjoyable game. Good intensity and a good advert for the Pro 12.

A few bullet points on my thoughts from the game and in Munster moving forward:

- It was very well reffed. Kudos to Nigel Owens.

- Our young props are developing nicely. I would not be adverse to Munster replacing BJ Botha with a big name second row (an area we are lacking IMO).

- ROG played his best game in a long time. Still not of the standards he once had but I was very worried about how he would do. Kicked well into corners, from tee and made a vareity of other kicks such as chips.

- Although Laulala has taken a lot of criticism this year I think if paired with the right 12 he could still bring something to the table.

- Cathal Sheridan was excellent considering it was his first ever start. I dont think Stringer or Murray would have contributed much more. He managed tempo well and did not take a step before passing.

- O'Garas post game reaction to Duncan Williams (refusing to shake his hand and then having a go at him for his performance) was disgraceful.

- That back three of Felix Jones, Doug Howlett and Denis Hurley could well be second choice next year. Not enough pace in the wings at all and very nearly cost us a try.

- Although he is public enemy #1 for many Munster fans I believe in Rob Penneys vision for Munster. We need time and to weed out the players who cannot implement it.
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Post by Thomond Sun 03 Mar 2013, 10:38 am

ROG did play his best game in a while but it still was only around Rabo level at best. It's criminal how far he stands behind the scrumhalf, and doesn't take the ball at pace. RTE were using cameras that were looking down on the players at times. Munster were at the ten metre line and O'Gara was closer to the half way line not running at pace, how does he expect our backs to get anywhere?

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