Which fighters have slipped off the radar quicker than they appeared on it?
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Which fighters have slipped off the radar quicker than they appeared on it?
Been thinking about a few fighters that were right up there in World Rankings but have all of a sudden disappeared and not been heard off in the big boxing circles since?
One person for me who sticks out is Nehomar Cermeno. He was 19-0 with two great wins over Mijares when he challenged Anselmo Moreno for the full WBA Bantamweight title. He lost a very tight SD. A rematch was ordered and once again he lost by tight SD. At this point he is now 19-2 and I didnt see him again in major boxing circles.
I just had a quick look at his recored and he is now 20-5. He has lost to good guys as well (Terrazas, Montiel and Bakhtin) and is now campaiging up at Super Bantam. He has however not fought in a year.
Are there any other fighters like this that have been close to breaking through before falling spectacuarly away from the limelight
One person for me who sticks out is Nehomar Cermeno. He was 19-0 with two great wins over Mijares when he challenged Anselmo Moreno for the full WBA Bantamweight title. He lost a very tight SD. A rematch was ordered and once again he lost by tight SD. At this point he is now 19-2 and I didnt see him again in major boxing circles.
I just had a quick look at his recored and he is now 20-5. He has lost to good guys as well (Terrazas, Montiel and Bakhtin) and is now campaiging up at Super Bantam. He has however not fought in a year.
Are there any other fighters like this that have been close to breaking through before falling spectacuarly away from the limelight
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Erislandy Lara looks like he might just disappear from view
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Andre Dirrell is headed that way if he doesn't make a big move soon. Has time on his side for now, but he's in danger of becoming a part of the 'Where are they now?' club.
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Dirrell is a great shout. I think he could have won the Super Six had he not had his problems
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Very talented lad TMWofJB, that's for sure. It was really just a lack of experience which cost him the fight against Froch, for me. He demonstrated that he had the perfect style to beat Carl at that point; if he'd have realised how good he was or believed in himself enough to step it up earlier, he had it within him to run away with the decision and the WBC belt.
In fairness it looked as if he'd learned from that mistake against Abraham for the most part, until that ending. Can't quite make my mind up on that one, but he's been cleared to fight after all that business for a long time now but just doesn't seem to be that interested - there's no urgency there. If he applies himself properly he'll win a world belt or two without any hassle, I'd think.
In fairness it looked as if he'd learned from that mistake against Abraham for the most part, until that ending. Can't quite make my mind up on that one, but he's been cleared to fight after all that business for a long time now but just doesn't seem to be that interested - there's no urgency there. If he applies himself properly he'll win a world belt or two without any hassle, I'd think.
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Thought Gamboa would have been one, promising future, making all the right noises... disappears and reappears as a shadow of his former self.
Daniel Jacobs was a well promoted prospect with Golden Boy. Won accolades as the ESPN Prospect of the year and was well reviewed on the Ring... until his loss to Pirog. I thought it was a little too quiet then I found he was diagnosed with osteosarcoma (a form of bone cancer). He has gone on to fight 4 more times since being given the all clear but I've not seen any coverage of him!
Daniel Jacobs was a well promoted prospect with Golden Boy. Won accolades as the ESPN Prospect of the year and was well reviewed on the Ring... until his loss to Pirog. I thought it was a little too quiet then I found he was diagnosed with osteosarcoma (a form of bone cancer). He has gone on to fight 4 more times since being given the all clear but I've not seen any coverage of him!
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Re: Which fighters have slipped off the radar quicker than they appeared on it?
jeff lacy had massive hype behind him, but after the JC fight really went of the rails and has faded into obscurity.
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Lacy stuck around for a while. Had some big fights with Taylor and RJJ before he slipped away.
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Alexander Frenkel. Not fought since Enzo Macc.
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That's a good shout, Michaels. That knockout should have given him a couple of big(ish) outings at Cruiser.
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seanmichaels wrote:Alexander Frenkel. Not fought since Enzo Macc.
Now this is suprising. Strange as he should be living off his biggest win on away soil but instead does nothing!
Lara is a good shout, there was talk on here like he was a future P4P contender.
I Gamboa lacks a ambition and drift of in the next few years.
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themadworldofjb wrote:Lacy stuck around for a while. Had some big fights with Taylor and RJJ before he slipped away.
And don't forget his fight against Manfredo Jr!! Can't get much bigger than that!! (I hate working on a friday afternoon!!)
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Valero's Conscience wrote:seanmichaels wrote:Alexander Frenkel. Not fought since Enzo Macc.
Now this is suprising. Strange as he should be living off his biggest win on away soil but instead does nothing!
I heard a rumour he was chicken oriental.
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The young Naz slinked off fairly quickly when he got his eye wiped by a real warrior.
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He was only at the top for 7 years so definitely deserves a mention here.
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Imperial Ghosty wrote:He was only at the top for 7 years so definitely deserves a mention here.
You're right he slipped off the radar quicker than he came onto it.
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richard towers and mike perez, both undefeated HWs who should be making themselfs known, and not heard a peep from either.
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Re: Which fighters have slipped off the radar quicker than they appeared on it?
Samart Payakarun was being hailed as a big star of the future in the late eighties before he boxed Jeff Fenech. He was the betting favourite and undefeated, but then got trounced and it basically finished him as a fighter. He retired pretty soon after before an unsuccessful comeback a few years down the line.
Diosbelys Hurtado, as well. Gave Whitaker absolute hell for eleven rounds as a young, untested pup, got his hands on a world title a few years later and was being tipped for big things, somehow managed to get himself stopped in his very first defence against Vivian Harris and quickly faded in to oblivion afterwards even though he was still pretty young.
Proksa might go the same way, too. This time last year he was being touted as the Middleweight to watch by many before Hope and Golovkin brought him crashing back down to earth.
Diosbelys Hurtado, as well. Gave Whitaker absolute hell for eleven rounds as a young, untested pup, got his hands on a world title a few years later and was being tipped for big things, somehow managed to get himself stopped in his very first defence against Vivian Harris and quickly faded in to oblivion afterwards even though he was still pretty young.
Proksa might go the same way, too. This time last year he was being touted as the Middleweight to watch by many before Hope and Golovkin brought him crashing back down to earth.
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Re: Which fighters have slipped off the radar quicker than they appeared on it?
David Lemieux. Was once a highly rated, up and coming KO artist.
Now......a highly rated can-crusher.
Now......a highly rated can-crusher.
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Anyone expecting much else from Juanma???
From the hottest prospect in boxing to being found out.
From the hottest prospect in boxing to being found out.
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Re: Which fighters have slipped off the radar quicker than they appeared on it?
Very possibly premature but what about that young Mexican-American LWW who went to train with Roach?
I think his name was Jose Benividaz (spelling likely wrong and on phone so can't look up).
There was a lot of hype about him circa 2 years ago and seemed like he was going to be fast tracked to greatness?
I assume he's just taking things slower than anticipated and we'll hear more soon.
I think his name was Jose Benividaz (spelling likely wrong and on phone so can't look up).
There was a lot of hype about him circa 2 years ago and seemed like he was going to be fast tracked to greatness?
I assume he's just taking things slower than anticipated and we'll hear more soon.
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I would have to say that Boystov and Dimitrenko have disappeared. two decent big punching Russian Heavys who are now nowhere to be seen
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Valero's Conscience wrote:Very possibly premature but what about that young Mexican-American LWW who went to train with Roach?
I think his name was Jose Benividaz (spelling likely wrong and on phone so can't look up).
There was a lot of hype about him circa 2 years ago and seemed like he was going to be fast tracked to greatness?
I assume he's just taking things slower than anticipated and we'll hear more soon.
Benavidez is currently 17-0 with 13KOs and now fighting at Welterweight. Hasnt fought this year however. In fact he hasnt fought since October
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themadworldofjb wrote:I would have to say that Boystov and Dimitrenko have disappeared. two decent big punching Russian Heavys who are now nowhere to be seen
They only disappear when wlad is looking for opponents - they'll resurface in a week or so.
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To be fair to Dimitrenko he has at least found his level i.e not good enough for World Titles. Got found out against Eddie Chambers of all people.
But Boytsov has indeed vanished.
But Boytsov has indeed vanished.
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Re: Which fighters have slipped off the radar quicker than they appeared on it?
Thinking about the mention of Jacobs earlier, I think Pirogs a good example. Appeared from nowhere as an opponent for Jacobs and afterwards gained a bit of a following (myself included) but has done F all since then. Pretty frustrating considering he appeared to have everything necessary to become a major force at MW...if he was on top form I'd back him to run GGG very close if not even beat him.
Also JuanMa Lopez, lost a bit of appeal after his losses but beforehand all the talk was of him and Gamboa having their superfight. I still wouldn't rule it out but it wouldn't have the same awesome factor that it could have had a few years back. (remind you of anyone else?)
Also JuanMa Lopez, lost a bit of appeal after his losses but beforehand all the talk was of him and Gamboa having their superfight. I still wouldn't rule it out but it wouldn't have the same awesome factor that it could have had a few years back. (remind you of anyone else?)
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