Nonito Donaire: Lost All Respect For Him

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After listening to him on the Boxing lab, Boxingscene's radio show, I have officially lost all respect for Donaire.

In the interview he says that Rigo was dull and if he didn't try and KO him then neither of them would have been touched, he then says that Rigo's style in the fight was HIS style, and that HE couldn't use it otherwise the fans would have been bored. So, Rigo stole your style did he Nonito? Jesus.

Donaire is pretty when he KO's, but other than that he just plods and stalks and bores. Rigo puts on a clinic, for 12 rounds, with style and grace and control, fact.

Donaire is making so many excuses throughout the interview, he sounds so needy. Admit you got whipped by a better man Nonito, admit it, you sound pathetic and sore. You say he didn't hurt you, look at your face! Look how you covered up in the 12th round to protect your battered eye! Are you delusional? you got whacked at a very high percentage. VERY HIGH.

You talk strategy in the fight but you had one and couldn't use it. You couldn't use it because Rigo took it away from you, the smaller, older, better man disabled you in the ring. Admit it you delusional sore loser, you'll still make more money than Rigo in the future, so admit it.

Grow up Donaire or pi** off.

Thoughts?

Rowley wrote:

Seanusarrilius wrote:

As for your opinion. Doesn't carry too much weight with me. No offence meant, but you're not exactly ......... Shakespeare

Bit harsh Sean, is a little known fact but the original title of Romeo and Juliet was Romeo..............and JULIET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To be or not to be......Was the question he asked himself before changing it...

Rowley wrote:

Seanusarrilius wrote:

As for your opinion. Doesn't carry too much weight with me. No offence meant, but you're not exactly ......... Shakespeare

Bit harsh Sean, is a little known fact but the original title of Romeo and Juliet was Romeo..............and JULIET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Romeo and...................................................................................... Donald Curry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not fussed on Shakespeare.

If you ran about these days talking to a human skull you would get locked up!!

They use a human skull in all the plays at the royal theatre

ShahenshahG wrote:They use a human skull in all the plays at the royal theatre

LOCK'EM ALL UP THEN!!!

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:

ShahenshahG wrote:They use a human skull in all the plays at the royal theatre

LOCK'EM ALL UP THEN!!!

Why? The guy offered it to them in his will.

Well he should have been locked up then.

Who puts something like that in a will !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Well he should have been locked up then.

Who puts something like that in a will !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That guy

Donaire is an absolute credit to the sport, everything he does and has done is what we as fans expect and want from boxers.

He is the only boxer who adheres to all year round drug testing.
He actively seeks out and fights the best all the time, he didn't need Rigondeaux but took on a high risk low reward fight because he's willing to fight anyone.
He's respectful towards his opponents and unlike many gave Rigondeaux a lot of praise for being the better man on the night.
He's an exciting fighter who tries to give the fans what they want.

If you can't respect him then who can you respect.

ShahenshahG wrote:

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Well he should have been locked up then.

Who puts something like that in a will !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That guy

Did he yea? That was very good of him.

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:

ShahenshahG wrote:

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Well he should have been locked up then.

Who puts something like that in a will !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That guy

Did he yea? That was very good of him.

Hmm, should be awarded a knighthood

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Donaire is an absolute credit to the sport, everything he does and has done is what we as fans expect and want from boxers.

He is the only boxer who adheres to all year round drug testing.
He actively seeks out and fights the best all the time, he didn't need Rigondeaux but took on a high risk low reward fight because he's willing to fight anyone.
He's respectful towards his opponents and unlike many gave Rigondeaux a lot of praise for being the better man on the night.
He's an exciting fighter who tries to give the fans what they want.

If you can't respect him then who can you respect.

Bar a couple of show reel KO's I find him dull. And against Navaerz it was so dull I fell asleep. Stank the night out because he couldn't get hold of the little guy.

davidemore wrote:

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Donaire is an absolute credit to the sport, everything he does and has done is what we as fans expect and want from boxers.

He is the only boxer who adheres to all year round drug testing.
He actively seeks out and fights the best all the time, he didn't need Rigondeaux but took on a high risk low reward fight because he's willing to fight anyone.
He's respectful towards his opponents and unlike many gave Rigondeaux a lot of praise for being the better man on the night.
He's an exciting fighter who tries to give the fans what they want.

If you can't respect him then who can you respect.

Bar a couple of show reel KO's I find him dull. And against Navaerz it was so dull I fell asleep. Stank the night out because he couldn't get hold of the little guy.

Navarez is the only guy he hasn't put on the canvas in about 4 years I think and that's only because he boxed ultra negatively. How you can blame that on Donaire I don't know.

Haha at least Donaire has a KO reel worth watching!

I know, let's all go on youtube and "favorite" that great highlight reel of Rigos amateur career!! That always gets the juices flowin'. Such excitement!!

Rigo undefeated baby, Rigo took Donaire's scalp and your money.

You're like a broken record.

The better man won. Hit and not get hit. The sweet science. Rigo perfected it (almost). Nonny hasn't. Back to the drawing board for Nonny. Skill always win out.

A broken record that plays beautifully.

davidemore wrote:A broken record that plays beautifully.

Perhaps if you actually want people to become gradually anti-Rigo, then yes. Harping on about the win in this way - whilst trying to smear Donaire at every possible step, no less - probably isn't wise if you want Rigo to get the credit that he richly deserves. It was a brilliant win, but let's be reasonable here. Donaire hasn't become a disgrace overnight, and as others have pointed out he's generally a class act who does a hell of a lot for the sport, even if his post-fight comments were bitter. What d'you reckon?

azania wrote:The better man won. Hit and not get hit. The sweet science. Rigo perfected it (almost). Nonny hasn't. Back to the drawing board for Nonny. Skill always win out.

It obviously doesn't because the top amateurs don't always become the top professionals.

That is why we love professional boxing, because of the intangibles. Bute had more skill than Froch and Froch anihilated him. Taylor had more skills than Froch and Froch KOed him.

The more skilled fighter does not always win.

BoxingFan88 wrote:

azania wrote:The better man won. Hit and not get hit. The sweet science. Rigo perfected it (almost). Nonny hasn't. Back to the drawing board for Nonny. Skill always win out.

It obviously doesn't because the top amateurs don't always become the top professionals.

That is why we love professional boxing, because of the intangibles. Bute had more skill than Froch and Froch anihilated him. Taylor had more skills than Froch and Froch KOed him.

The more skilled fighter does not always win.

No. The skill is to hit your opponent and not get hit. Carl hit Bute more often that Bute hit him and harder. Carl's skills won out. Bute may be the more fancy dan type of fighter but he doesn't have Carl's skills. If he did he would have won.

John David Jackson was schooling Jorge Fernando Castro, i've not seen official punch stats for the fight but it would be very lopsided, did Jackson win? No because Castros chin and power were better, it had absolutely nothing to do with skill. Rigondeaux beat Donaire because he had a better gameplan, they box in completely different ways so it's hard to say who is the more skillful.

The better man doesn't always win nor does the more skillful man always win.

I dont think I would agree with that azania. A lesser skilled fighter can overcome a more skilled one with superior size, durability, power, stamina, endurance etc

manos de piedra wrote:I dont think I would agree with that azania. A lesser skilled fighter can overcome a more skilled one with superior size, durability, power, stamina, endurance etc

Well yes. But all things being equal ie equal weights. Generating power from punches is a skill also. I can bet that Hagler could lift heavier weights than Hearns but who do you think hits harder?

manos de piedra wrote:I dont think I would agree with that azania. A lesser skilled fighter can overcome a more skilled one with superior size, durability, power, stamina, endurance etc

Which is why we have upsets

BoxingFan88 wrote:

manos de piedra wrote:I dont think I would agree with that azania. A lesser skilled fighter can overcome a more skilled one with superior size, durability, power, stamina, endurance etc

Which is why we have upsets

Not really.

But I take your point that skills do not always win out. Khan Garcia being a case in point. But it generally does.

azania wrote:

manos de piedra wrote:I dont think I would agree with that azania. A lesser skilled fighter can overcome a more skilled one with superior size, durability, power, stamina, endurance etc

Well yes. But all things being equal ie equal weights. Generating power from punches is a skill also. I can bet that Hagler could lift heavier weights than Hearns but who do you think hits harder?

Well Hearns is undeniably more skillful than Hagler and probably more powerful even as a middleweight but what won Hagler that fight was his brain and ability (if you can call it that) to be incredibly durable.

Pep won almost twice as many rounds than Saddler but found himself losing the series 3-1.

azania wrote:

manos de piedra wrote:I dont think I would agree with that azania. A lesser skilled fighter can overcome a more skilled one with superior size, durability, power, stamina, endurance etc

Well yes. But all things being equal ie equal weights. Generating power from punches is a skill also. I can bet that Hagler could lift heavier weights than Hearns but who do you think hits harder?

Im not talking about just power. Boxers are sum of the parts which include learned skills plus mental and physical attributes. Sometimes a much more skilled fighter can lose to a lesser killed one becasue he lacks in the mental or physical departments despite having superior skills. Fighters gassing, losing concentration, lacking chin, lacking motivation or simply allowing a leser opponent outwork them.

davidemore wrote:Bar a couple of show reel KO's I find him dull. And against Navaerz it was so dull I fell asleep. Stank the night out because he couldn't get hold of the little guy.

you find Donaire dull?

You need to start watching a different sport. Worst bit of wumming I've seen for a while and I rose to it

Rigo will bring his phonebooth full of fans too his next fight. Will never be PPV. And probably will still end up as a chief support act on a Donaire undercard

Donaire will always sell, will always attract audiences and TV companies.

Rigos skills will probably never pay his bills now after the Donaire fight. Even Bob Arum cant exploit him and admitted Rigo boxed like a bore, and hes fed us some guff.

Everyone accepts that Rigo is the better of the 2, but who cares, he might get a few quid when he gets his Nightol sponsership.

Davide is an utter moron. How can you lose all respect for a boxer like Donaire just because he was critical of the fact he found Rigo frustrating?

Do you respect Football teams who when they're 1 - 0 ahead, using every cheap tactic available to waste time, running the ball to the corner? Or the team that even though they're 1 - 0 up keep going for more goals, for more excitement for the fans?

In the late 80's, early 90's Arsenal had a similar issue to Rigondeaux, they were a superb team, who didn't get as many accolades as they deserved because they were labeled as "boring, boring Arsenal" and ground out 1 - 0 victories. They were universally disliked for their style and eventually it got to the point people found them out and exploited it, resulting in Arsene Wenger coming in to shake them up again.

The point I'm trying to make here is that Rigo is beyond doubt a superb boxer, we cannot question that, and executed a well thought out strategy that made Donaire look silly at times, but the fact is that he did that to "win at all costs" rather than to provide entertainment for the fans. While appreciating his skill - the point of being recognised as the best in the world is to gain fans, it wouldn't have made a difference to anything if the arena was full or empty, or if anyone watched it on TV or not, Rigo did himself no favours and thats the point Donaire is trying to prove. If thats the way Rigo wants to box, he should be in the amateurs and allow boxing to grow and get more fans rather than become more of a purists dream.

JabMachineMK2 wrote:Davide is an utter moron. How can you lose all respect for a boxer like Donaire just because he was critical of the fact he found Rigo frustrating?

Do you respect Football teams who when they're 1 - 0 ahead, using every cheap tactic available to waste time, running the ball to the corner? Or the team that even though they're 1 - 0 up keep going for more goals, for more excitement for the fans?

In the late 80's, early 90's Arsenal had a similar issue to Rigondeaux, they were a superb team, who didn't get as many accolades as they deserved because they were labeled as "boring, boring Arsenal" and ground out 1 - 0 victories. They were universally disliked for their style and eventually it got to the point people found them out and exploited it, resulting in Arsene Wenger coming in to shake them up again.

The point I'm trying to make here is that Rigo is beyond doubt a superb boxer, we cannot question that, and executed a well thought out strategy that made Donaire look silly at times, but the fact is that he did that to "win at all costs" rather than to provide entertainment for the fans. While appreciating his skill - the point of being recognised as the best in the world is to gain fans, it wouldn't have made a difference to anything if the arena was full or empty, or if anyone watched it on TV or not, Rigo did himself no favours and thats the point Donaire is trying to prove. If thats the way Rigo wants to box, he should be in the amateurs and allow boxing to grow and get more fans rather than become more of a purists dream.

JabMachineMK2 wrote:The point I'm trying to make here is that Rigo is beyond doubt a superb boxer, we cannot question that, and executed a well thought out strategy that made Donaire look silly at times, but the fact is that he did that to "win at all costs" rather than to provide entertainment for the fans. While appreciating his skill - the point of being recognised as the best in the world is to gain fans, it wouldn't have made a difference to anything if the arena was full or empty, or if anyone watched it on TV or not, Rigo did himself no favours and thats the point Donaire is trying to prove. If thats the way Rigo wants to box, he should be in the amateurs and allow boxing to grow and get more fans rather than become more of a purists dream.

Rigo doesn't always box like that JMK2. He adapted as this was the best gameplan possible to defeat a quality operator like Donaire and it worked a treat. Might of not been the most apealing fight to the casual but I personally enjoyed watching the fight and would quite happily watch Rigo box like that again. It will be interesting see who wants to step up and take him on next.

I think this constant running down of Rigondeaux's win is starting to get a bit daft now, to be honest.

Who exactly amongst us was saying how terrible to watch and how boring Rigondeaux was before this week? Pretty much nobody from what I can remember. Lo and behold, he puts in one (excellent) no frills performance and suddenly he's bad for the sport, should be back in the amateurs, stinks halls out etc.

Granted, sometimes we don't like it when a boxer proves us wrong and makes a mockery of our predictions, but at least be reasonable about it when they do. The guy clearly outboxed one of the very best fighters on the planet, and still people want to moan about it.

Boxers don't have a "responsibility" to entertain as far as I'm concerned. They're in there to win. God forbid a fighter puts on an intelligent performance and comes up with a perfect gameplan! Genuine question to those who somehow feel that Rigondeaux's performance was an affront, or deserves to be criticised; if you were Rigondeaux, how would you have boxed to get the win? Because I can't even begin to think you might be suggesting that he had no right to be the victor just because he didn't fight the kind of fight you like!

Moreover, if Rigondeaux's performance was so bad, what does that make Donaire's?

I think it's a sad state of affairs when a fighter can handily win a unification fight against one of the best fighters in the world, and yet the majority afterwards can only muster the words "Well he won, but...." and the like. Some haven't even been that kind, in fact.

JabMachineMK2 wrote:Davide is an utter moron. How can you lose all respect for a boxer like Donaire just because he was critical of the fact he found Rigo frustrating?

Do you respect Football teams who when they're 1 - 0 ahead, using every cheap tactic available to waste time, running the ball to the corner? Or the team that even though they're 1 - 0 up keep going for more goals, for more excitement for the fans?

In the late 80's, early 90's Arsenal had a similar issue to Rigondeaux, they were a superb team, who didn't get as many accolades as they deserved because they were labeled as "boring, boring Arsenal" and ground out 1 - 0 victories. They were universally disliked for their style and eventually it got to the point people found them out and exploited it, resulting in Arsene Wenger coming in to shake them up again.

The point I'm trying to make here is that Rigo is beyond doubt a superb boxer, we cannot question that, and executed a well thought out strategy that made Donaire look silly at times, but the fact is that he did that to "win at all costs" rather than to provide entertainment for the fans. While appreciating his skill - the point of being recognised as the best in the world is to gain fans, it wouldn't have made a difference to anything if the arena was full or empty, or if anyone watched it on TV or not, Rigo did himself no favours and thats the point Donaire is trying to prove. If thats the way Rigo wants to box, he should be in the amateurs and allow boxing to grow and get more fans rather than become more of a purists dream.

Why should he be in the amateurs?

He is a unified champion and has just hammered and outboxed one of most peoples top 3 p4p fighter!!

He should be in the Pro game, as he has already proved.

The purists may not mind watching it again, but in reality boxing should have a much further reach into the hearts and minds of the masses - the way Rigo boxed that night, he wouldn't. This fight would have been better fought behind closed doors for the good its done their careers in the eyes of the public - Donaire shown to be quite one dimensional and Rigo to be a master of execution of a strategy that only the purists can appreciate. Bear in mind that as Donaire is from the Philippines, that I would say isn't graced with boxing purists, but the fans of Pacquiao who are used to all action fights. It made him look bad in his own country and not because he was out gunned, because he was out thought and I feel that's hurt him, but not to the point of "LOSING ALL RESPECT" which is a complete over exaggeration by the failings of a complete muppet.

Donaire will continue as he was, going up weight classes and finding his fights becoming difficult as they look to emulate the masterplan that Rigo adopted. He'll change his ways and probably succeed.

Rigo did himself no favours, yes he's a unified champion, but now he has made himself very hard opposition to match against as he is incredibly high risk and very low reward. If he'd have opened up and fought differently, yes he may have lost (I don't think so) but he would have gained an army of fans praising the fact he went toe to toe with Donaire. Look at Matthysse's fanbase. He's "lost" twice yet he is an exciting boxer to watch, so people don't care.

88Chris05 wrote:I think this constant running down of Rigondeaux's win is starting to get a bit daft now, to be honest.

Who exactly amongst us was saying how terrible to watch and how boring Rigondeaux was before this week? Pretty much nobody from what I can remember. Lo and behold, he puts in one (excellent) no frills performance and suddenly he's bad for the sport, should be back in the amateurs, stinks halls out etc.

Granted, sometimes we don't like it when a boxer proves us wrong and makes a mockery of our predictions, but at least be reasonable about it when they do. The guy clearly outboxed one of the very best fighters on the planet, and still people want to moan about it.

Boxers don't have a "responsibility" to entertain as far as I'm concerned. They're in there to win. God forbid a fighter puts on an intelligent performance and comes up with a perfect gameplan! Genuine question to those who somehow feel that Rigondeaux's performance was an affront, or deserves to be criticised; if you were Rigondeaux, how would you have boxed to get the win? Because I can't even begin to think you might be suggesting that he had no right to be the victor just because he didn't fight the kind of fight you like!

Moreover, if Rigondeaux's performance was so bad, what does that make Donaire's?

I think it's a sad state of affairs when a fighter can handily win a unification fight against one of the best fighters in the world, and yet the majority afterwards can only muster the words "Well he won, but...." and the like. Some haven't even been that kind, in fact.

At no point did I claim that Rigondeaux didn't put in an exceptional performance, I didn't say that he was undeserving of the victory - however it was a victory that few will get excited about, and for which he will now be difficult to match for.

And as for what I said about the amateurs, it may have been somewhat hasty to use that as definition for my point, but you can see reasoning behind it - that he is unpopularising what was previously an exciting weight bracket for non-fans to watch.

JabMachineMK2 wrote:At no point did I claim that Rigondeaux didn't put in an exceptional performance, I didn't say that he was undeserving of the victory - however it was a victory that few will get excited about, and for which he will now be difficult to match for.

And as for what I said about the amateurs, it may have been somewhat hasty to use that as definition for my point, but you can see reasoning behind it - that he is unpopularising what was previously an exciting weight bracket for non-fans to watch.

Not saying you did personally say that, Jab, but others have. In fact, others have basically trashed the performance, by some strange logic. I think you're being overly-negative on Rigondeaux and seeminly making a blanket statement about him and his career based on a single fight, but that's nothing compared to what others have been saying.

We saw two fighters who both held world titles going in box last weekend; and yet, it's the winner whose performance (and who in general) has received most of the ridicule and disdain on here in the past week. How can that be right?

I don't agree that Rigondeaux is unpopularising the weight class single-handedly, either. Why should the perception of the division rest entirely on Rigondeaux's shoulders? Does his style prevent the likes of Donaire or the British up 'n' comers like Frampton and Quigg from entertaining us?

What makes me uncomfortable here is that some of Rigondeaux's critics are acting as if he's had a reputation for sending fans to sleep for years. As I said earlier, before last saturday night, nobody was bemoaning his style or how bad he was for the sport. It's a total overreaction, and besides, I don't think a fighter needs a big fan base to justify having a place as one of the best boxers in the world.

From a personal perspective I would have had far more respect for Rigo if he had stood in front of Donaire, had a shoot out with him and got knocked sparko.

Got to agree with Chris here. It wasnt an exciting fight, but donaire is getting off Scott free for it.

They both wanted to counter.. Rigo was better at it. Like it or not the onus then falls on donaire to do something about it. He wouldn't take risks because he was getting caught... Well that's his problem. To get the win he needed to take some chances and he couldn't/wouldn't do it.

If rigo was behind on points, he might well have come out swinging... Who knows? All we do know is donaire barely through a punch.

I like donaire, and I'm sure he would have liked rigo to come looking for him, but just the usual losing fighter's sour grape stuff for me.

This was in reality though Chris, Rigo's coming out party - his chance to build an army of fans for taking out the P4P contender and 2012 fighter of the year in flashy style. His previous fights have been good, yet not great - this was his first REAL test and although he passed, it was very much a performance that won't endear him to fans. Thats my point. I like Rigo - and his performance was admirable, yet I'm playing devils advocate for the casual fan, whom if I showed that performance they'll claim boxing is boring and the fighter himself was boring to watch. Who do you know, honestly that had heard of Rigondeaux before last Saturday? You've even got idiots like Emore watching a few Youtube fights the week before he fights to make lucky guesses on the victor. There were a few (Mackem among them) who truly spoke of Rigo's greatness and were proven right, but I'll guarantee the vast majority board weren't aware of Rigo's previous fights before he was matched with Donaire. I know I wasn't. I'd watched him in the amateurs, but I am still now relatively new when it comes to his career - so my impression of Rigo is from that fight.

88Chris05 wrote:I think this constant running down of Rigondeaux's win is starting to get a bit daft now, to be honest.

Who exactly amongst us was saying how terrible to watch and how boring Rigondeaux was before this week? Pretty much nobody from what I can remember. Lo and behold, he puts in one (excellent) no frills performance and suddenly he's bad for the sport, should be back in the amateurs, stinks halls out etc.

Granted, sometimes we don't like it when a boxer proves us wrong and makes a mockery of our predictions, but at least be reasonable about it when they do. The guy clearly outboxed one of the very best fighters on the planet, and still people want to moan about it.

Boxers don't have a "responsibility" to entertain as far as I'm concerned. They're in there to win. God forbid a fighter puts on an intelligent performance and comes up with a perfect gameplan! Genuine question to those who somehow feel that Rigondeaux's performance was an affront, or deserves to be criticised; if you were Rigondeaux, how would you have boxed to get the win? Because I can't even begin to think you might be suggesting that he had no right to be the victor just because he didn't fight the kind of fight you like!

Moreover, if Rigondeaux's performance was so bad, what does that make Donaire's?

I think it's a sad state of affairs when a fighter can handily win a unification fight against one of the best fighters in the world, and yet the majority afterwards can only muster the words "Well he won, but...." and the like. Some haven't even been that kind, in fact.

88Chris05 wrote:Not saying you did personally say that, Jab, but others have. In fact, others have basically trashed the performance, by some strange logic. I think you're being overly-negative on Rigondeaux and seeminly making a blanket statement about him and his career based on a single fight, but that's nothing compared to what others have been saying.

We saw two fighters who both held world titles going in box last weekend; and yet, it's the winner whose performance (and who in general) has received most of the ridicule and disdain on here in the past week. How can that be right?

I don't agree that Rigondeaux is unpopularising the weight class single-handedly, either. Why should the perception of the division rest entirely on Rigondeaux's shoulders? Does his style prevent the likes of Donaire or the British up 'n' comers like Frampton and Quigg from entertaining us?

What makes me uncomfortable here is that some of Rigondeaux's critics are acting as if he's had a reputation for sending fans to sleep for years. As I said earlier, before last saturday night, nobody was bemoaning his style or how bad he was for the sport. It's a total overreaction, and besides, I don't think a fighter needs a big fan base to justify having a place as one of the best boxers in the world.

Chris you have summed it up perfectly in my opinion

Like I've said, Rigo fought one fight like that and nows he's boring. Was every saying Groves was boring when he ran and was on the back foot the whole fight against DeGale? Would you say he fights like this every fight? I think a few people on here should go on Youtube and actually watch one of his previous fights.

Terrible comparison!!

Groves vs Degale was tight, they both opened up in parts throughout the fight.

So did Rigo on Donaire!! Comparing the styles of both fights not the actual fight.

Doesn't change the fact that people think Rigo is a boring boxer after (probably!) only seeing that fight.

Im sorry but thats a load of bull.

Rigo is in his 30s, is a more complete fighter.

Degale and Groves are young, still learning, not world champions, fought a domestic fight unlike Donaire vs Rigo which was on the world stage.

I watched Rigo against Casey, say what you want, Casey was and is a wreckless fighter who won an awful prizefighter series then won the EBU title against Hyland who is hardly a world beater. Casey last fought against a Euro type opponent and got beat. He is turd.

Watched Rigo against Marroquin, wasn't impressed either, he struggled in that fight getting his whiskers tested then playing it safe to the point where he stank out an entire arena against Donaire.

People are on here defending him now as if hes the next Mayweather when only about a week ago where claiming Donaire was going to flatten him due to his "chin issues". Now everyone is an expert on his past.

As JM said, Saturday was his platform to the ever endearing US audience and he blew a stinker.

He went life and death with a shot Cordoba who Bernard Dunne KO'ed.

Wasnt a defensive genius that night.

All this guff about its all about hit and not get his, he missed over 250 of his 370 punches he threw. Not that accurate either.

And just to back up how the comparison of Groves DeGale is not the best to use.

Haye Vs Valuev: Haye got slated for running.

Mayweather vs Baldimer: Another performance like saturdays. Mayweather also got slated for that.

The world stage is a lot different to a domestic fight and World Class fighters are expected to be value for money. Someone who wears trainers into the ring and ducks and runs isn't what people come to pay for.

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Im sorry but thats a load of bull.

Rigo is in his 30s, is a more complete fighter.

Degale and Groves are young, still learning, not world champions, fought a domestic fight unlike Donaire vs Rigo which was on the world stage.

I watched Rigo against Casey, say what you want, Casey was and is a wreckless fighter who won an awful prizefighter series then won the EBU title against Hyland who is hardly a world beater. Casey last fought against a Euro type opponent and got beat. He is turd.

Watched Rigo against Marroquin, wasn't impressed either, he struggled in that fight getting his whiskers tested then playing it safe to the point where he stank out an entire arena against Donaire.

People are on here defending him now as if hes the next Mayweather when only about a week ago where claiming Donaire was going to flatten him due to his "chin issues". Now everyone is an expert on his past.

As JM said, Saturday was his platform to the ever endearing US audience and he blew a stinker.

He went life and death with a shot Cordoba who Bernard Dunne KO'ed.

Wasnt a defensive genius that night.

All this guff about its all about hit and not get his, he missed over 250 of his 370 punches he threw. Not that accurate either.

Please quote where I referred to Rigo as a defensive genius? Or said he's the next Mayweather? Or refer myself as an expert on his past. Stop taking things out of proportion. Am only posting my opinion not fact.

Please explain how Cordoba was shot against Rigo? Every always bangs on about who the pro game is different to the am's and he took Cordoba on in his 7th fight! I didn't think it was close if am honest, but again my opinion which am goin to try and throw down your throat like your trying to do.

I did think Donaire would win, as there was question marks over Rigo's chin and I thought with the speed and power of Donaire would catch him eventually (he did but got up after 1 second). Which is more the reason why I was impressed with Rigo, on how neglected Donaire's advantages. Rigo gave away height and reach advantage and still out boxed him on the back foot. And he missed over 250 of his 370 punches he threw? He still had over 30% connection rate.

If you weren’t impressed with that, especially someone who only had 11 fights going in against a top 5 p4p4 who have been destroying every whose been put in front of him, that’s your opinion. But you’re not going to change mine. No mater how much drivel you type.

Ok, another opinion is drivel to you.......nice

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Ok, another opinion is drivel to you.......nice

Haha think Truss is rubbing off on you!

Ok not all of it was drivel but when you start sayin he only landed 30% of his punches it was gettin a little tedious