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Post by davidemore Wed 01 May 2013, 10:50 am

Really excited to see the most gifted man in sport. Back.

I'm going to try and watch in Sunday morning without knowing the result, so in advance, if anyone could post a youtube link (legal) on here, Sunday morning, then I'd bromance you forever heart

Anyway, predictions and thoughts on how the fight goes. Can you give my a quick summary of how you see it going down and a prediction. Let me show you mine:

I see The Ghost coming out with his hands up and trying to take it to Mayweather in the middle of the ring. He will have learnt that from Mayweather's last two fights that the ropes simply don't get it done. Cotto and Victor both landed shots, but they also wore themselves out slugging away on the ropes. Foreman style.

So, The Ghost to try and work the body in the first four rounds. Mayweather picking him off and shelling up when required, straight right's and body exchanges, a lack of check left's for once.

By the middle rounds The Ghost goes upstairs, starts to fight dirty, starts to try and push Mayweather against the ropes and unload. Mayweather may lose one or two rounds in the grapple, it may actually may be close in the middle rounds, but with pressure comes exposure, and The Ghost will eat some hard hooks to the side of the head... and body.

By the final four I will have Mayweather up by two or three and that's when he takes control. Putting icing on the cake with piercing blows through the gloves.

A great comeback, a great fight.

Thoughts?

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Post by Seanusarrilius Wed 01 May 2013, 5:00 pm

I got Floyd by UD

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Post by azania Wed 01 May 2013, 5:01 pm

Same here.

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Post by jack-rabbitpunch Wed 01 May 2013, 5:12 pm

pts for floyd, although i am sure katsidis gave guerrero trouble with his body punching, so may be a late tko after softening up his long torso, but that wasnt an option..

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Post by mobilemaster8 Wed 01 May 2013, 5:31 pm

Guerrero style is gret for flood. I see a similar hatton type performance.

Late stoppage.

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Post by Gerry SA Wed 01 May 2013, 7:03 pm

Ain't no way Robert Guerrero gets KO'd by Floyd Maweather.

In 7 fights at Welterweight, Mayweather has KO'd 3 of his opponents. Sharmba Williams, Ricky Hatton and Victor Ortiz(by a cheap shot). Both Williams and Hatton where career junior welterweights.

Berto who hits twice as hard as Mayweather couldn't even wobble Guerrero. So how's Mayweather gonna KO Guerrero?

As for the result, Guerrero by split decision.

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Wed 01 May 2013, 7:30 pm

Floyd wins by UD an I seriously doubt that Floyd stops him

As Gerry alluded to Mayweather doesn't carry real power, enough to keep you honest and walking through him, but isn't a renown puncher. Berto hits harder, although less often, and Guerrero took his shots pretty well

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Post by manos de piedra Wed 01 May 2013, 7:33 pm

Id say Guerrero would need to win a shut out in order to get a SD go his way

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Post by Strongback Wed 01 May 2013, 7:53 pm

Guerrero UD...........seems a no brainer.

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Post by azania Wed 01 May 2013, 8:12 pm

Guerrero wins the first 90 seconds and is schooled after that. Floyd is a very accurate puncher so a ko wouldn't surprise me.

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Post by owen10ozzy Wed 01 May 2013, 8:29 pm

Easy nights work for Floyd this one.

A lot is being made of Guerrero after his performance against Berto, and there seems to be this idea that he is an avoided fighter who has flown under the radar somewhat. Much like Sergio Martinez. Unlike the Argentine however he doesn't have that much on his ledger to suggest he poses any problems for Floyd bar being a Southpaw.

Granted the Berto performance was good but is that enough to suddenly make him this threat at Welterweight...not for me. Nor does it suggest he is of the level to take on Floyd.

He has wins of Litzau, Berto and thats about it. Katsidis is far short of elite level and Casaymayor was a few years beyond his best and thats being polite.

Saw enough even in the Berto fight to suggest that Mayweather deals with him easily. He will be eating the jab all night long and it honestly wouldn't shock me to see him stopped on his feet late on (somewhere around the 10th).

Whilst Guerrero looks good at the weight I would still say that it is a more natural weight for Mayweather. Like Az says, power isn't everything required to stop a fighter...get the timing right and a quick short shot can be just as devastating as a wound up big one.



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Post by kingraf Wed 01 May 2013, 8:30 pm

Pity Pac-May never happened, it would have been a shot in the arm for the sport. Failing that, Floyd will do a million PPVs again, and all will be well with the world. How much is Guerrero getting for this fight? And more importantly what are the odds? I put £100 on May, but if its past 20/1 for Guerrero, I might as well throw 50 quid
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Post by Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake Wed 01 May 2013, 10:35 pm

11/2 for the ghost at paddy power

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Post by kingraf Wed 01 May 2013, 11:07 pm

I'll stick to my guns.
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Post by owen10ozzy Wed 01 May 2013, 11:29 pm

I wouldn't take anything less than 25/1 for Guerrero, thats how one sided I think this fight is...joking, but I do genuinely think this will end up being a one sided clinic from Floyd (unless he has aged overnight)

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Post by davidemore Thu 02 May 2013, 10:37 am

Biggest fight in boxing all year in two days and not one prediction.

And you lot call yourself boxing fans.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 02 May 2013, 10:41 am

Fancy Guerrero to cause an upset...Think it's time for Floyd..comes to everybody in the end..

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 02 May 2013, 10:42 am

Can we possibly merge this with the Floyd-Guerrero poll thread...

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Post by rIck_dAgless Thu 02 May 2013, 10:49 am

can not see past a wide UD

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Post by Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake Thu 02 May 2013, 10:56 am

I'm going to stick a wee bet on Guerrero KO at 12/1

Floyds training camp looks unsettled to me. Uncle and father involvement looks disruptive. He had definitely slipped (slightly) against Cotto. A year out plus time in prison. Just signed a massive deal with Showtime. It's all ripe for a fall.

I get the feeling Guerrero wants it more.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 02 May 2013, 11:16 am

Second that.

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Post by hampo17 Thu 02 May 2013, 11:20 am

I've merged the two topics together, I see Floyd pulling out a wide UD or a late stoppage similar to the Hatton fight.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 02 May 2013, 11:35 am

Floyd TKO 11 or 12, having lost max 3 rounds before that.

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Post by kingraf Thu 02 May 2013, 11:41 am

If Mayweather loses this, the whole Pac-May discussions will look like a huge case of "what where we thinking".

Mayweathers doccie pulled in low ratings, The fight is not sold out yet, is America finally tired of Mayweathers fight-picking?
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Post by hampo17 Thu 02 May 2013, 11:44 am

Depends what you define as fight picking. Mayweather is WBC champ and Guerrero is his mandatory, if Mayweather chose to vacate certain people (non of here) would accuse him of ducking. Mayweather obviously feel's he can demand more of the purse if he brings a belt to the discussions so fighting his mandatory is the right thing to do.

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Post by Gentleman01 Thu 02 May 2013, 11:45 am

I’ve been impressed with Guerrero but he seems tailor-made for Mayweather. As such, I’m going to stick my neck out and predict a massacre, Mayweather to wind back the years and utterly demolish his man.

I’m going with a late stoppage, Guerrero’s corner to pull him out between rounds 9 and 11 after receiving a one-sided beating.

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Post by Seanusarrilius Thu 02 May 2013, 6:52 pm

More votes!

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Post by RanjitPatel Thu 02 May 2013, 7:54 pm

Guerrero seems to be underrated by many on here. Guess we'll find out Sunday but I think this is a tougher fight than Canelo for Floyd. Guerrero is just an all round better boxer than Canelo and good inside or out.
Tough fight that Floyd should win and get more credit for when the ghost goes onto big things in the future also.

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Post by davidemore Thu 02 May 2013, 10:28 pm

Ghost will push him but Mayweather, well, it's near impossible not to back him.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 02 May 2013, 10:44 pm

Imagine If Floyd loses......It'll be..." told you he was overrated!!"......

Come on Son...add another p4per to your resume...

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Post by kingraf Thu 02 May 2013, 10:47 pm

Im not a huge May fan, but I wouldnt beat his pfp (funny how boxing fans are so touchy about something so mythical) with that stick. Losing happens
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Post by hampo17 Fri 03 May 2013, 8:22 am

Probably won't happen but if Floyd comes out to the ghostbusters theme tune tomorrow night it'll be epic.

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Post by Rodney Fri 03 May 2013, 8:49 am

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Imagine If Floyd loses......It'll be..." told you he was overrated!!"......

Come on Son...add another p4per to your resume...

Pity he wouldn't fight the no 1 p4p guy couple of years back.

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Post by Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake Fri 03 May 2013, 9:35 am

Rueben Guerrero is a mentalist. He makes Garcia's dad look like a Trappist monk. Final press conference. Skip to 2 minutes for his showpiece

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Post by Gerry SA Fri 03 May 2013, 10:34 am

Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake wrote:Rueben Guerrero is a mentalist. He makes Garcia's dad look like a Trappist monk. Final press conference. Skip to 2 minutes for his showpiece

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q-6_pR--4A&feature=youtube_gdata_player
So Ruben saying that Mayweather is a woman beater and a jailbird is him being a 'mentalist'?

Ruben is just pointing out the facts.

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Post by kingraf Fri 03 May 2013, 10:38 am

Gerry, which channel will the fight be on?
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Post by kingraf Fri 03 May 2013, 10:44 am

Never mind bud, just saw that your location is London
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Post by Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake Fri 03 May 2013, 11:09 am

Gerry SA wrote:
Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake wrote:Rueben Guerrero is a mentalist. He makes Garcia's dad look like a Trappist monk. Final press conference. Skip to 2 minutes for his showpiece

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q-6_pR--4A&feature=youtube_gdata_player
So Ruben saying that Mayweather is a woman beater and a jailbird is him being a 'mentalist'?

Ruben is just pointing out the facts.


Regardless, its not how a sane person conducts themself at a press conference. And him beating up his wife has nothing to do with the fight

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Post by Gerry SA Fri 03 May 2013, 11:24 am

Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake wrote:
Gerry SA wrote:
Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake wrote:Rueben Guerrero is a mentalist. He makes Garcia's dad look like a Trappist monk. Final press conference. Skip to 2 minutes for his showpiece

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q-6_pR--4A&feature=youtube_gdata_player
So Ruben saying that Mayweather is a woman beater and a jailbird is him being a 'mentalist'?

Ruben is just pointing out the facts.


Regardless, its not how a sane person conducts themself at a press conference. And him beating up his wife has nothing to do with the fight
Clearly it does. The Guerreros are very religious. Straight down the middle good guys.

Mayweather is a punk who beats up women...

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Post by TopHat24/7 Fri 03 May 2013, 11:25 am

When has pre-fight smack-talk ever had anything to do with the fight?

See the other (emore, I think) thread. Few of those comments were specifically to do with the fight, were still entertaining smack (usually designed to provoke) which is probably what Ruben is doing here. He knows his son has no chance if Floyd calmly boxes in his shell all night.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Fri 03 May 2013, 11:27 am

Also, didn't one of the Mayweather's bring up Guerrero's wife's health issues - what's that got to do with anything? You can't slap someone in the face then cry to your mommy when they slap you back.

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Post by hampo17 Fri 03 May 2013, 11:34 am

Gerry SA wrote:
Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake wrote:
Gerry SA wrote:
Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake wrote:Rueben Guerrero is a mentalist. He makes Garcia's dad look like a Trappist monk. Final press conference. Skip to 2 minutes for his showpiece

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q-6_pR--4A&feature=youtube_gdata_player
So Ruben saying that Mayweather is a woman beater and a jailbird is him being a 'mentalist'?

Ruben is just pointing out the facts.


Regardless, its not how a sane person conducts themself at a press conference. And him beating up his wife has nothing to do with the fight
Clearly it does. The Guerreros are very religious. Straight down the middle good guys.

Mayweather is a punk who beats up women...


Straight down the middle good guys? Ruben Guerrero has been to jail himself, and his son just got arrested for carrying a gun and will go infront of the judge after this fight charged with criminal possession..


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Post by TopHat24/7 Fri 03 May 2013, 11:37 am

*gun wasn't loaded.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Fri 03 May 2013, 11:39 am

Also, I don't believe there was any ammo whatsoever, just some empty clips.

His fists were more dangerous than that weapon.

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Post by hampo17 Fri 03 May 2013, 11:40 am

He's still going infront of the judge with criminal possession of a firearm. Not some a straight up good guy does in my opinion.

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Fri 03 May 2013, 11:43 am

Yea its becoming a bit difficult to keep with Roberts good guy religious act when his father is there almost gloating about how he went to jail for a longer time than Floyd did and he took it like a 'man'. Add that Robert was caught with a fire arm and is always talking about how he likes to keep guys in the fight just to beat them up

Reuben needs to realise that he's not fighting (or maybe he will) but his son is and needs to stop making a boobie of himself and allow his son to be in the best frame of mind

Mayweather won't give a damn about pre fight smack talk, so why bother. If anything the Guerrero's have upped the trash talking as the fight gets closer whereas Floyd is being more withdrawn

All seems a little exaggerated on Guerrero's part making it seem almost fake

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Post by TopHat24/7 Fri 03 May 2013, 11:52 am

hampo171 wrote:He's still going infront of the judge with criminal possession of a firearm. Not some a straight up good guy does in my opinion.

Still think that's a deliberately overly-simplistic way to find a stick to beat him with. He turned up at the airport, handed the gun over himself when checking in, it wasn't concealed or found on a search, he openly disclosed it.

Yes he was wrong, which is why he has been charged with a crime, but a stupidity/ignorance excuse washes a lot better with him than it does with Floyd beating his missus.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 03 May 2013, 11:55 am

What they should have done is told him they'd be seeing him to get a statement at a later date.....

If he's beating Mayweather after six rounds...Then would be as good a time as any to insist on him making one..

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Post by owen10ozzy Fri 03 May 2013, 11:56 am

Personally get the impression it's more a case of the Guerrero's talking up their chances in attempt to make themselves believe.

This is a huge pay day for Robert, one which he has never been close to making before and unless he wins will likely never win again...does he believe he can actually win though. I think in his heart of hearts he doesn't.

I really don't get the furore around Guerrero. Granted he is a good fighter...but a top ten P4P'er...not in my eyes! Ring magazine put too emphasis on this 'weight hopping' sometimes and whilst I do think he has great achievements in winning titles at 4 weights his record his hardly stacked with stellar names.

As I said earlier he gets broken down in a bit of a clinic by Mayweather, who will show he is perhaps not declining in the manner some people believe and wins either very lop sided decision or may even take him out late on.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 03 May 2013, 11:59 am

You know the factor in this fight is what has Mayweather got left.........

People are basing the fight on the last Mayweather they saw.....He's reaching an age now when coupled with his relative inactivity no one knows for sure what kind of Mayweather turns up........

Fathertime and all...............

Why I'm picking Guerrero.

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