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Guerrero looked a little flat at 147lbs

Mayweather looked like iron at 146lbs

Stare down was intense with no incidents.

But.......Guerrero looks absolutely way to pumped for this fight.

Getting interviewed he was shouting about smashing mayweather up and getting down etc etc a bit like Tyson Fury.

I see an early night.

Mayweather to hand out a Gatti style beat down.

Guerrero is in way over his head here and tonight has shown it.

Guerrero always looks a little flat. mayweather struggles with southpaws and at 36 and having a year out and having been in jail he wil struggle tomorrow.

That's a myth mayweather doesn't struggle with south paws

Thought that Guerrero would have looked a little but better now that he's had time to grow into the division but I guess some people just never looked ripped, like Donaire

You can see why Floyd has been practising body punches as Guerrero's body looks like an obvious target of weakness and his chin is top notch so he won't get much success there

The Ghost kind of let his emotions get the better of him there, not good, not good at all. Think the weigh in might be the moment i call this one for Mayweather.

Unless they look terrible or suddenly freakish (like on PEDs), there's often not a whole to get from trying to judge who looks the most ripped.

Everyone's body is different and some will look better physically than others but still not be as fit.

*not a whole LOT to get

24 hours is a long time.....Rehydration........can do wonders.

Diamond in the rough wrote:That's a myth mayweather doesn't struggle with south paws

ab Judah, De Marcus Corley and to some extent Victor Ortiz but Oritz less than the other two.

Mayweathers shoulder roll is not as eeefective against southpaws and it is one reason why I think mayweather never fought pacquaio.

Mayweather never fought pacquaio because manny declined drug testing.

Thats it.

mobilemaster8 wrote:Mayweather never fought pacquaio because manny declined drug testing.

Thats it.

it wasn't just drug testing it was olympic style blood Drug testing that went beyond the norm for boxing. Anyway that was not the only demand mayweather said. He also refused a 50/50 split and said something like it should be 80/20 in his favour.

In 20 years time when people look back on Floyd's legacy they will see that he never fought the other top guy in his division.

Why did Mayweather introduce the drug demands? To clean up the sport of boxing? hmmm.

victorgarco wrote:

mobilemaster8 wrote:Mayweather never fought pacquaio because manny declined drug testing.

Thats it.

it wasn't just drug testing it was olympic style blood Drug testing that went beyond the norm for boxing. Anyway that was not the only demand mayweather said. He also refused a 50/50 split and said something like it should be 80/20 in his favour.

In 20 years time when people look back on Floyd's legacy they will see that he never fought the other top guy in his division.

Olympic style testing is far better and safer. Credit to Floyd and shame on Manny for refusing it. At that time the money was agreed. Only stumbling block was that Manny claimed to be scared of needles despite his tats and that taking a vial of blood weakened him. He wanted a 24 day cut off before the fight which Floyd refused saying that it made a mockery of the term "random".

manos de piedra wrote:Why did Mayweather introduce the drug demands? To clean up the sport of boxing? hmmm.

Probably because he thought Manny was juicing. I reckon it should be the norm in boxing anyway. Interesting that all his fights now use stricter types of testing.

I wouldnt think Manny is a juicer, but his entorourage has so many hangers-on and so many people make money from the Manny-train (most without being of any actual assistance to Manny) that you never know.

Manny is a christian so he wouldn't juice.

Manny did once agree to a fight with blood testing, and was very flat that fight, didnt he?

azania wrote:

manos de piedra wrote:Why did Mayweather introduce the drug demands? To clean up the sport of boxing? hmmm.

Probably because he thought Manny was juicing. I reckon it should be the norm in boxing anyway. Interesting that all his fights now use stricter types of testing.

If he thought Pacquiao was juicing then it suggests he was impressed enough with Pacquaio to believe his performances were not clean, which in turn suggests he had concerns.

If Mayweather thought the fight would be as easy as he claimed I think he would have done more to make it happen.

I actually dont think Manny is an inherent cheat, but when your team is so big, maybe some guy is giving you special tea, to keep the gravy train flowing. I dont think Manny was too anti-testing, and logically speaking I cant see why HE would agree to 24 days instead of 14, unless someone in his team was... well

manos de piedra wrote:

azania wrote:

manos de piedra wrote:Why did Mayweather introduce the drug demands? To clean up the sport of boxing? hmmm.

Probably because he thought Manny was juicing. I reckon it should be the norm in boxing anyway. Interesting that all his fights now use stricter types of testing.

If he thought Pacquiao was juicing then it suggests he was impressed enough with Pacquaio to believe his performances were not clean, which in turn suggests he had concerns.

If Mayweather thought the fight would be as easy as he claimed I think he would have done more to make it happen.

Maybe so. But I see nothing wrong with taking strict tests to ensure both are clean. It's not as if Floyd was asking only Manny to take the tests.

azania wrote:

manos de piedra wrote:

azania wrote:

manos de piedra wrote:Why did Mayweather introduce the drug demands? To clean up the sport of boxing? hmmm.

Probably because he thought Manny was juicing. I reckon it should be the norm in boxing anyway. Interesting that all his fights now use stricter types of testing.

If he thought Pacquiao was juicing then it suggests he was impressed enough with Pacquaio to believe his performances were not clean, which in turn suggests he had concerns.

If Mayweather thought the fight would be as easy as he claimed I think he would have done more to make it happen.

Maybe so. But I see nothing wrong with taking strict tests to ensure both are clean. It's not as if Floyd was asking only Manny to take the tests.

Well he hadnt made the demands on anyone up to that point. And I think the main reason he has made the demands after is because to do otherwise would make it seem clear he was worried about facing Pacquaio. Instead he went to down this "cleaning up boxing" image which Im certainly not buying although it is a positive move for the sport overall.

Im also not convinced even if Pacquaio accepted the demands that it would have lead to the fight happening. There were countless other roadblocks that could have used, especially in the actual purse split. The overwhelming feeling I got over the whole sage was that Mayweather just didnt particularly want the fight. Too much focus on finding reasons why the fight couldnt be made, why the fight didnt matter, why Pacquaio wasnt a challenge etc instead of looking at ways the fight could happen. Since the de la Hoya fight, Mayweather has been in a position to pick who he wants to fight from about 3 divisions and dictate the terms completely. And since then impression I have got is that he hasnt really sought out the toughest challenges to him. The list of fighters he hasnt fought since his move to welterweight, looks as strong if not stronger than the list of fighters he has fought. de la Hoya, Hatton, Marquez, Mosley, Ortiz, Cotto* Guerrero vs Margarito, Cotto*, Williams, Pacquaio, Alvarez, Bradley.

Hagler didn't give Hearns a rematch and I'd fancy Hagler for that one........

Mayweather probably should have fought him but after seeing Marquez school him......doesn't matter for me.......

We can all agree Mayweather wins..

Pac should have accepted it instead of making silly excuses which made him look guilty. Call Floyd's bluff.

Same happened with Ali.......Old timers looking for any excuse not to rate him......

For this purpose Manny is a good stick..

Quite pathetic really.

azania wrote:Pac should have accepted it instead of making silly excuses which made him look guilty. Call Floyd's bluff.

He should have. But that doesnt get Mayweather off the hook.

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