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Post by sweet_pea Tue 07 May 2013, 8:36 pm

First topic message reminder :

http://www.badlefthook.com/2013/5/7/4309206/mayweather-vs-guerrero-ppv-buys-rumored-to-be-well-under-one-million

hmmm showtime execs Doh
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Post by Champagne_Socialist Fri 10 May 2013, 12:24 am

azania wrote:Its impossible. He has already moved up 4 weight divisions.

Ward stated on the social networks – "Lil Floyd says he spars middleweights. He is the only man I will sacrifice coming to 160 for.

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Post by sittingringside Fri 10 May 2013, 3:34 am

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
azania wrote:Its impossible. He has already moved up 4 weight divisions.

Ward stated on the social networks – "Lil Floyd says he spars middleweights. He is the only man I will sacrifice coming to 160 for.

We must appreciate that there is a difference between sparring a middleweight and taking a 12 round professional fight against a super middle coming down to 160 though.

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Post by davidemore Fri 10 May 2013, 7:36 am

GBP have said that it is over a million. :/


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Post by Diamond in the rough Fri 10 May 2013, 12:02 pm

davidemore wrote:GBP have said that it is over a million. :/



That's better than I thought it would apparently it didn't sell well with the Hispanic areas but sold well everywhere else

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Post by owen10ozzy Fri 10 May 2013, 12:28 pm

I have some doubt's about that. You will tend to find that numbers get inflated if the initial figures aren't as good as networks first hoped. Obviously they won't be able to inflate them to much but a small increase leaves both network and fighter looking in a better position next time around.

The rumours across varies media outlets etc have placed the figure somewhere betwen 700-900,000 and I would be much more inclined to believe these.

One of the main problems which seems to be overlooked was that the fight itself drew extremely poorly on the gate. Now obviously there are always tickets given away because it's vegas and the money is made on the table's. Yet this is the first time in many years that there have been various concerns as to the drawing power of Floyd.

With showtime giving him full control over the documentaries in the build up, they also expected much more in terms of viewing figures for the shows, which again didn't draw particularly well.

I figure he will either be asked to step up his competition in the next of a scheduled 6 fight contract.....or perhaps more likely will be told to return to the 'brash & arrogant' role which we were accustomed to seeing in the build up to many of his previous fights.

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Post by kingraf Fri 10 May 2013, 12:52 pm

Tony Soriano 1 day ago
I think he means that he should
have nocked him out.. Hi just wants
a pay chek, and to remain
undefeated.. He's not interested in
giving people what hey want.. A
good fight with not so much
running around.. I don't give a Poopie
about him beeng brain dead when
he retires.. I would like to see more
toe to toe action..
Mayweather is the boringest fighter
of all time.. Can I get an Amen ???
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I think the idiot who wrote this explained the matter at hand pretty well.
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Post by Diamond in the rough Fri 10 May 2013, 1:18 pm

Schaefer was saying maywether and golden boy are the only ones who announce there official numbers an top rank don't have a official number for any fight pacman has been in its all speculation

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Post by BoxingFan88 Fri 10 May 2013, 9:12 pm

Its all a load of rubbish, apparently Showtime are counting and its already exceeded 1mil buys, not surprising really, this IS Mayweather.

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Post by bellchees Fri 10 May 2013, 9:38 pm

No idea what to believe on the numbers but I think it might have done worse as people knew they would see Floyd again as part of the 6 fight deal. Being Semi retired for the last few years probably left people wanting to watch his fights as they thought it could be his last.

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Post by Lumbering_Jack Fri 10 May 2013, 10:35 pm

BoxingFan88 wrote:Its all a load of rubbish, apparently Showtime are counting and its already exceeded 1mil buys, not surprising really, this IS Mayweather.

Not sure why they need to 'count'. Computer systems should do that for you.

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Post by PPVxHOTTY Fri 10 May 2013, 11:20 pm

So...Showtime have signed a deal with Mayweather $200 million, so over 6 fights he averages $33.3 million per fight. Im slightly confused here so in hindsight regardless of who he fights he will 'only' get $33.3 per fight? e.g. next opponent is Canelo or just say Alexander... in a ideal world the Canelo fight generates more numbers so if he fights Alexander he will still get $33.3 million, is that right or can someone please explain this deal, thanks.

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Post by manos de piedra Fri 10 May 2013, 11:33 pm

My understanding is that Mayweather was given a guarantee of 200m with his Showtime deal. Thats the minimun he will recieve for his 6 fights. How much above that 200m he makes will depend on the ppv buys, sponsorship and quality of opposition. Alexander might net 33m but he probably earn 50m against Alvarez.

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Post by PPVxHOTTY Sat 11 May 2013, 12:28 am

manos de piedra wrote:My understanding is that Mayweather was given a guarantee of 200m with his Showtime deal. Thats the minimun he will recieve for his 6 fights. How much above that 200m he makes will depend on the ppv buys, sponsorship and quality of opposition. Alexander might net 33m but he probably earn 50m against Alvarez.

Aah right so he is guaranteed $33m, this makes me wonder whether he thinks about his legacy or he's just thinking about the $$$. Its a business fair enough and I would probably do the same, take low risk fights rather than the Canelo's and Martinez's. Imagine if Mayweather loses, I guarantee you he will retire, so this is a very risky ploy form Showtime unless theirs a clause that states Mayweather must complete all 6 fights.

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sat 11 May 2013, 12:37 am

I'm not sure if I'm correct, but for every fight he gets a guarenteed $32mil base purse. The rest of his purse is reflected by how many PPV's are sold and he takes a substantial cut from that

I'd imagine that Showtime will reject an opponent if they don't think it'll sell well Mayweather could fight guys with more losses than wins if he wanted to and get easy(easier) money

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Post by manos de piedra Sat 11 May 2013, 12:58 am

It will be interesting to see how the deal pans out for Mayweather and what he does with it. 200m is a massive guarantee so it essentially secures Mayweather all the money he needs. Its further de-incentives the need to really take on the best available opponent. Whats an extra 15 million for fighting Alvarez against 200 million already in the bank? I would imagine the deal gives Showtime some measure of say in his opponent selection but at the same time, I dont know if Mayweather would jump ship across if he still wasnt pretty much in control of his own career. For a guy who has fought less than once a year since 2007 to suddenly agree to a 6 fight deal at his age is surprising. But then again, it must be hard to turn down 200m.

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Post by kingraf Sat 11 May 2013, 8:44 am

It may be over a million, but these guys have been very vague with the actual numbers. Taking into consideration that the free doccies didnt do all too well, as well as the fact that it cost only $20 in cinemas. I have a strong suspicion the figure will be "Well over a million" without ever getting an actual number.
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Post by jimdig Sat 11 May 2013, 8:49 am

1 million + at 59.99 and 69.99 (for HD), that's crazy. Mayweather doesn't deliver a product worth 70 bucks to watch at home. 10million in the vegas gate. If its 70bucks to watch at home, how much would the cheapest tickets be??

I think there could be pressure from showtime to up the marketability of the next fights opposition. They are going to want 1.5million in the next. They had predicted cotto levels of buys for this fight. They forgot that Cotto is the 3rd biggest ppv draw currently in boxing.

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Post by Strongback Sat 11 May 2013, 9:04 am

Cotto has been in so many great scraps, he rarely fail to deliver. I look forward to a Cotto or Manny fight more than one of Floyd's one sided masterclasses.

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Post by kingraf Sat 11 May 2013, 9:15 am

Manny is the "paper view" prototype. Exciting fights, big knock outs. Thats what makes the average guy shell out. Floyd has done an amazing marketing job. Fighting on Mexican holidays, against Latino opposition.
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Post by kingraf Sat 11 May 2013, 9:16 am

Also, he is the choice for the black middle class.
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