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Post by hampo17 Sat 18 May 2013, 8:35 pm

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A place to discuss all of tonights action here, hopefully Prizefighter is a good watch. The action from America promises to be good, Khan, Agogo, Peterson, Alexander, Purdy, Matthyse.


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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun 19 May 2013, 3:34 am

OMG!!!!!

DAMN THE BOY CAN PUNCH

3rd Round KO for Matthysse

Garcia next, Matthysse the real deal, guys a tank and Garcia will be out on his back

Can't believe Az thought Khan could live with this guy

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Post by as1079 Sun 19 May 2013, 3:35 am

Wow. I wasn't convinced about Matthysse but this guy is the real deal. Devastating power.

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Post by Dr Gregory House MD Sun 19 May 2013, 3:37 am

First time I've seen Matthysse, so that's what all the fuss is about, not really sure what to do with myself now, could try sleeping I suppose

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Post by compelling and rich Sun 19 May 2013, 3:38 am

imagine khan v matthysee!!! i can see khan stepping up in weight out of the way very soon!!

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Post by Gerry SA Sun 19 May 2013, 3:39 am

compelling and rich wrote:imagine khan v matthysee!!! i can see khan stepping up in weight out of the way very soon!!
Khan vs Matthysse?

Khan would be out cold inside 20 seconds lol

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Post by bellchees Sun 19 May 2013, 3:40 am

Hope the Garcia fight gets made as he can whack as well and it would be explosive before one of them goes. This puts Khan in a difficult position as style wise he has no chance against Matthysse and I don't see a Garcia rematch being any different either which leaves his only choice being moving up into a dangerous Welterweight division.

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun 19 May 2013, 3:41 am

Garcia looked a little shaken

Fans will demand him to fight Matthysse now and I can only see one outcome

The guy has come on leaps and bound as since Judah and Alexander losses and he is starting fast and he's just running through the opposition

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Post by Gerry SA Sun 19 May 2013, 3:43 am

If Matthysse vs Garcia isn't next I won't be impressed.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Angel Garcia making an excuse for Danny to vacate the WBC title to allow Lucas.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sun 19 May 2013, 3:48 am

matthysse v mayweather?

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Post by bellchees Sun 19 May 2013, 3:50 am

Champagne_Socialist wrote:matthysse v mayweather?

Way way too slow for Mayweather, he'd have a punchers chance but nothing else and I see a complete shut out for Floyd.

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun 19 May 2013, 3:52 am

If he beats Garica and Khan then it makes sense and is an easy night for Floyd

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sun 19 May 2013, 3:55 am

WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:If he beats Garica and Khan then it makes sense and is an easy night for Floyd

He beats Khan with ease and it will be a tough fight against Garcia. I see him beng countered a lot by mayweather. I hope mayweather doesn't duck alvarez to fight matthysse.

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Post by Gerry SA Sun 19 May 2013, 3:57 am

Matthysse has a relative small fan base, smaller than Robert Guerrero.

So it wouldn't make as much money as Mayweather would want to get from his bumper SHOTime deal.

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Post by spencerclarke Sun 19 May 2013, 4:02 am

Evening gents quick call in before bed.

Alexander sounds a lot like mr hanky. Disappointed with the pull out. Barker took far harder shots and was allowed to continue against martinez. Fighting one handed could have caused alexander problems later on. He more than likely would have won but it would have been closer.

Lucas looked a real class act. Unfortunately I bought in to alex's issues with him and wemt for a peterson ud. Should have followed my heart on that one. Khan's biggest problem is his machoism. If he boxed he could beat lucas but he chooses to war and thats only going to end one way. Cant see him having any issues with garcia either. If someones a crude fighter then its him.

Enjoyed the prizefighter too. Think we may see a bit more of camucho. Not world class but he will be interesting.

Thats all, night folks

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sun 19 May 2013, 4:09 am

Wow. Simply wow. That is literally destructive power. He is by FAR the best fighter at 140lbs and majority of 147lbs for that matter.

Hope he takes Garcia next, deserves the World title and to be honest should still be undefeated (especially with the Alexander fight!).

I'm sure some fans on the forum stated he was over-rated and not world class or something and that Peterson would box him and win.

Errrrr well that's proved a lot of people wrong, including myself who thought he would maybe get a LKO or UD.....never at all expected this.

Roll on Garcia, I've been waiting for that guy to be knocked out for a while.

Mathyssee by EKO.

Night folks.

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Post by Atila Sun 19 May 2013, 4:51 am

azania wrote:Nah. The title as it stands is correct. SSM is a shell of his former self. He doesn't fight anymore. He survives.

Keeping that fine looking woman is costing him his health.
He won tonight though. I can't make up my mind whether that's a good or bad thing. Good as I'm glad that he won. Bad is now I expect he'll continue to fight.

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Post by Diamond in the rough Sun 19 May 2013, 8:13 am

This puts golden boy in a difficult situation I read somewhere it made no difference if the belt was on the line tonight it's up to them if he fights mattysse! So they can either feed khan to mattysse and up his fan base but pretty much ruin khan or he fighs Garcia which I don't think they want to do!

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Post by hampo17 Sun 19 May 2013, 9:27 am

I can see why Barker pulled Purdy out. He wasn't throwing enough punches and the ones he did throw where nothing more than arm punches really.

Matthyse was devastating. A fight between him and Garcia is unlikely to last six rounds but what a six rounds it would be.

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Post by azania Sun 19 May 2013, 9:34 am

Someone pass me the humble pie. Matthysse look a killer. Forget the 140 division. This guy is ready for the big one. Step forward Floyd.

He'd run through Khan and any other lww.

Sad about Moseley winning. It means the show continues.

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Post by ShahenshahG Sun 19 May 2013, 9:46 am

I reckon I could knock matthyse out. By fighting him Laugh

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Post by spencerclarke Sun 19 May 2013, 9:46 am

It will be interesting to see if alex still see matthysse as a hype job

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Post by milkyboy Sun 19 May 2013, 10:03 am

No middle ground then az? Gone from hype job to world beater? I thought Peterson would tough it out with him, but don't think he fully recovered from the glancing blow of the first knock down. It's mightily impressive to stop a guy who's never been stopped before, but Peterson visits the canvas regularly enough to mean this result was always a possibility.

Great stuff from matthysse, he 's an exciting banger, but i'm not rewriting by atg light welter lust just yet.

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Post by milkyboy Sun 19 May 2013, 10:12 am

Not sure what to make of Purdy. I don't blame him for taking the fight, I admire his courage...And yet... I think that's the worst performance, most out of their depth, I've ever seen from a Brit in a world title fight... Plod forward, get hit repeatedly, throw the occasional slow lumbering punch.

It literally looked like they'd pulled someone out of the bar to make the numbers up. Alexander, was just working out on a heavy bag.

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Post by ShahenshahG Sun 19 May 2013, 10:20 am

I think he might have been drained milky, but the result was hardly ever in doubt.

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Post by BoxingFan88 Sun 19 May 2013, 11:14 am

I'm going to enjoy this after eating humble pie for the Donaire vs Rigo fight.

I told you that Matthysse was going to destroy Peterson Smile

Some people thought Khan had a chance picard

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Post by azania Sun 19 May 2013, 11:25 am

milkyboy wrote:No middle ground then az? Gone from hype job to world beater? I thought Peterson would tough it out with him, but don't think he fully recovered from the glancing blow of the first knock down. It's mightily impressive to stop a guy who's never been stopped before, but Peterson visits the canvas regularly enough to mean this result was always a possibility.

Great stuff from matthysse, he 's an exciting banger, but i'm not rewriting by atg light welter lust just yet.

He'll take out Garcia. Khan could be tricky with his speed. But Khan's problem is that he's a fast started and will golooking for LM. Big mistake. The guy simply punches too hard for anyone at that weight.

Put him in with Floyd. The defensive master against the power punching attacking fighter. A classic matchup. Obviously Floyd will be favoured and should be. But that guy has the equaliser.

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Post by All Time Great Sun 19 May 2013, 11:39 am

Lots of over hyping Matthysee here. Yes, he's a great puncher- but if you can avoid him for 4-5 rounds his power will start to decline. I recall very similar comments re: Maidana when he was fighting like a KO artist.

If Khan was willing to not get Macho, he could probably beat this guy quite handily. Boxers such as Alexander and Bradley wouldn't have a problem too.

LP is a limited fighter in my opinion, he obviously doesn't have great power (e.g caught Khan flush several times, but he never went down) and this is probably the last we'll hear about his career.

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Sun 19 May 2013, 11:48 am

Khan talking about Mayweather again wants no part of Matthyse

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Post by BoxingFan88 Sun 19 May 2013, 11:51 am

All Time Great wrote:Lots of over hyping Matthysee here. Yes, he's a great puncher- but if you can avoid him for 4-5 rounds his power will start to decline. I recall very similar comments re: Maidana when he was fighting like a KO artist.

If Khan was willing to not get Macho, he could probably beat this guy quite handily. Boxers such as Alexander and Bradley wouldn't have a problem too.

LP is a limited fighter in my opinion, he obviously doesn't have great power (e.g caught Khan flush several times, but he never went down) and this is probably the last we'll hear about his career.

I don't think it does, he dropped Judah late, he KOed Alusegun late, he isn't just a straight forward brawler.

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Post by BoxingFan88 Sun 19 May 2013, 11:52 am

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:Khan talking about Mayweather again wants no part of Matthyse

Who does? Garcia didn't seem to keen either.

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Post by azania Sun 19 May 2013, 11:52 am

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:Khan talking about Mayweather again wants no part of Matthyse

When was he saying that?

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Post by azania Sun 19 May 2013, 11:53 am

BoxingFan88 wrote:
ONETWOFOREVER wrote:Khan talking about Mayweather again wants no part of Matthyse

Who does? Garcia didn't seem to keen either.

Are you reading into body language?

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Post by hampo17 Sun 19 May 2013, 12:13 pm

All Time Great wrote:Lots of over hyping Matthysee here. Yes, he's a great puncher- but if you can avoid him for 4-5 rounds his power will start to decline. I recall very similar comments re: Maidana when he was fighting like a KO artist.

If Khan was willing to not get Macho, he could probably beat this guy quite handily. Boxers such as Alexander and Bradley wouldn't have a problem too.

LP is a limited fighter in my opinion, he obviously doesn't have great power (e.g caught Khan flush several times, but he never went down) and this is probably the last we'll hear about his career.

Why? He's still a world champion, just got stopped by probably the hardest hitting guy in the division. Khan couldn't avoid Diaz while trying not to be macho, Matthyse would time and that would be all she wrote.

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Post by azania Sun 19 May 2013, 12:24 pm

I certainly hope its the last we see of Peterson. Cheating in other sports is not the same as cheating in boxing. You lose a point/goal in other sports. You can lose your life in boxing.

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Post by Diamond in the rough Sun 19 May 2013, 12:26 pm

Khan I to macho an I think would be knocked down a few times before either his corner pull him out or he gets knocke out cold! He struggled with Diaz and Garcia whooped him mattysse hits harder then them with both hands

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Post by John Bloody Wayne Sun 19 May 2013, 12:26 pm

Done me proud Lucas, my boy Very Happy

Judging from the Olusegun fight, the last one in which he was taken into the late rounds, his power only grows as the fight goes on.

If only it weren't for the Arum/Golden Boy thing. Mathysse v Pacquiao or Bradley would be like a Tarantino movie.

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Post by milkyboy Sun 19 May 2013, 12:35 pm

All Time Great wrote:Lots of over hyping Matthysee here. Yes, he's a great puncher- but if you can avoid him for 4-5 rounds his power will start to decline. I recall very similar comments re: Maidana when he was fighting like a KO artist.

If Khan was willing to not get Macho, he could probably beat this guy quite handily. Boxers such as Alexander and Bradley wouldn't have a problem too.

LP is a limited fighter in my opinion, he obviously doesn't have great power (e.g caught Khan flush several times, but he never went down) and this is probably the last we'll hear about his career.

He fought Alexander, and gave him plenty of problems atg. Assuming his last fight (and the somewhat forlorn attempt to make himself box office) hasn't dented Bradley's confidence, its Bradley I 'd pick to have his number... Though Bradley's currently at welter.

I can see a bandwagon starting to roll for mayweather matthysse, and why not.. We all love a boxer v brawler match up.

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Post by eddyfightfan Sun 19 May 2013, 12:40 pm

people seem a little quick for him to face mayweather- did you guys learn nothing from gurrero?

i was and still am a beleiver that mattyhsse is the real deal but i would like him to take out khan, garcia, and maybe alvardo or somebody, and then pick up a title at 147 (also rematching alexander/judah possibly as well) before he takes on floyd, who will no doubt want the fight at 147.

he needs experience to go with his talent before going for p4p 1

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Post by azania Sun 19 May 2013, 12:42 pm

Floyd hasn't got long to go. As Saul seems to be ducking him the next best option is Lucas.

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Post by ShahenshahG Sun 19 May 2013, 12:49 pm

hahahaha gordy worthy

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Post by All Time Great Sun 19 May 2013, 1:05 pm

milkyboy wrote:
All Time Great wrote:Lots of over hyping Matthysee here. Yes, he's a great puncher- but if you can avoid him for 4-5 rounds his power will start to decline. I recall very similar comments re: Maidana when he was fighting like a KO artist.

If Khan was willing to not get Macho, he could probably beat this guy quite handily. Boxers such as Alexander and Bradley wouldn't have a problem too.

LP is a limited fighter in my opinion, he obviously doesn't have great power (e.g caught Khan flush several times, but he never went down) and this is probably the last we'll hear about his career.

He fought Alexander, and gave him plenty of problems atg. Assuming his last fight (and the somewhat forlorn attempt to make himself box office) hasn't dented Bradley's confidence, its Bradley I 'd pick to have his number... Though Bradley's currently at welter.

I can see a bandwagon starting to roll for mayweather matthysse, and why not.. We all love a boxer v brawler match up.

I agree the Alexander fight was close, but that was an off night for Alexander to be fair (albeit he did score a victory by a contentious decision).

Matthysee is a brilliant power puncher, but I do believe he will be exposed against the top boxers in the division (well he's already lost to Judah & Alexander). Albeit, at 140lbs, it appears the slug festers seem to be getting all the praise recently. Would like to see Garcia vs. Matthyse- that would be fun.

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Post by Colan (niner) Sun 19 May 2013, 1:07 pm

Lamont Peterson disappointed me. Considering his first name is the same as my surname, he should have done me proud

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Post by milkyboy Sun 19 May 2013, 1:40 pm

eddyfightfan wrote:people seem a little quick for him to face mayweather- did you guys learn nothing from gurrero?

i was and still am a beleiver that mattyhsse is the real deal but i would like him to take out khan, garcia, and maybe alvardo or somebody, and then pick up a title at 147 (also rematching alexander/judah possibly as well) before he takes on floyd, who will no doubt want the fight at 147.

he needs experience to go with his talent before going for p4p 1

I wasnt saying he had to fight him straightaway... Ideally he'd clean up the light welters first. However as az says, Father Time is knocking for floyd and sometimes you just have to strike while the iron is hot.

There's nothing to take from Guerrero. The ghost could have had a dozen top fights at welter and still been schooled by floyd. i didn't watch it as it was entirely predictable.

Despite not bring as sold on matthysse as some, I'd watch him fight floyd. I 'd expect mayweather to win, but I'd have that 'what if' element of doubt to keep me interested. Matthysse is hardly green... he's 30, and whilst more top level experience would obviously be beneficial, what prepares you for floyd?

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sun 19 May 2013, 2:07 pm

Mathyssee soulf still be undefeated.....he is quite clearly the best fighter at LWW at the moment and would crush Garcia (who I think is garbage) within the same time as Peterson.

Khan should not even entertain it.......

Neither should anyone else for that matter!

Hope he unifies the division then gets a good payday against Floyd.

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Post by Lumbering_Jack Sun 19 May 2013, 2:17 pm

He's a little to high risk for Floyd. I except Garcia to fight Floyd next year having both avoided Lucas.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 19 May 2013, 6:03 pm

Well, Matthysse looked pretty damn good last night. I have to give it to him, I thought Lamont would be good enough to avoid the power early and get a foothold in the fight and show how to beat Matthysse, that just didn't happen.

Still think he's there to be exposed, he's too limited for my liking, but fair play to him, I didn't see him bombing Peterson away in 3, still reckon there will be someone that exposes him as a limited fighter mind you.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 19 May 2013, 6:04 pm

spencerclarke wrote:Evening gents quick call in before bed.

Alexander sounds a lot like mr hanky. Disappointed with the pull out. Barker took far harder shots and was allowed to continue against martinez. Fighting one handed could have caused alexander problems later on. He more than likely would have won but it would have been closer.

Lucas looked a real class act. Unfortunately I bought in to alex's issues with him and wemt for a peterson ud. Should have followed my heart on that one. Khan's biggest problem is his machoism. If he boxed he could beat lucas but he chooses to war and thats only going to end one way. Cant see him having any issues with garcia either. If someones a crude fighter then its him.

Enjoyed the prizefighter too. Think we may see a bit more of camucho. Not world class but he will be interesting.

Thats all, night folks

Not the first time I've been wrong mate haha.

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Post by spencerclarke Sun 19 May 2013, 7:56 pm

Haha we all get them wrong from time to time. Me more than most if my place in the prediction league is anything to go by. I like matthysse I think he will get on well in the next few years but I do agree a boxer rather than a fighter gives him trouble, probably not at 140 though

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Post by Diamond in the rough Sun 19 May 2013, 11:20 pm

Lumbering_Jack wrote:He's a little to high risk for Floyd. I except Garcia to fight Floyd next year having both avoided Lucas.


He's not high risk at all but he is low reward! He's not fast enough to trouble floyd!

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Post by compelling and rich Mon 20 May 2013, 9:52 am

garcia v matthyse should be a good fight, both like a tear up

not sure why the sudden rush for matthyse to fight mayweather he's a light welter and not even proven the best at that weight let alone welter. a big good un beats a little good un and not sure if you've realised this but that mayweather lad isnt bad

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