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Post by KO-KING Tue 28 May 2013, 6:23 pm

Just my List of the rankings of fighters, Weight Class to Weight class

Champion - Who ever holds the Ring Belt

Heavyweight

Champion - Wladimir Klitchsko
1 - Vitali Klitschko
2 - David Haye
3 - Alexander Povetkin
4 - Tomasz Adamek
5 - Bermane Stiverne
6 - Ruslan Chagaev
7 - Cristobal Arreola
8 - Tyson Fury
9 - Kubrat Pulev
10 - Tony Thompson


Cruiserweight

Champion - Yoan Pablo Hernandez
1 - Marco Huck
2 - Krzysztof Wlodarczyk  
3 - Guillermo Jones
4 - Ola Afolabi
5 - Denis Lebedev
6 - Lateef Kayode
7 - Firat Arslan
8 - Troy Ross *
9 - Mateusz Masternak *
10 - Alexander Alekseev *


Light Heavyweight

Champion - Adonis Stevenson
1 - Bernard Hopkins
2 - Jean Pascal  
3 - Chad Dawson
4 - Nathan Cleverly
5 - Sergei Kovalev
6 - Tavoris Cloud
7 - Tony Bellew
8 - Beibut Shumenov
9 - Isaac Chilemba
10 - Karo Murat



Super Middleweight

Champion - Andre Ward
1- Carl Froch
2 - Mikkel Kessler
3 - Lucian Bute
4 - Sakio Bika
5 - Robert Stieglitz
6 - Arthur Abraham
7 - George Groves
8 - Edwin Rodriguez
9 - James DeGale
10 - Thomas Oosthuizen


Middleweight

Champion - Sergio Martinez
1 - Gennady Golovkin
2 - Martin Murray
3 - Daniel Geale
4 - Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
5 - Peter Quillin
6 - Felix Sturm
7 - Matthew Macklin
8 - Sam Soliman
9 - Hassan N'Dam
10 - Darren Barker


Light Middleweight

Champion - Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez
1 - Austin Trout
2 - Erislandy Lara
3 - Miguel Cotto  
4 - Carlos Molina
5 - Vanes Martirosyan
6 - Ishe Smith
7 - Demetrius Andrade
8 - Cornelius 'K9' Bundrage
9 - Zaurbek Baysangurov *
10 - Willie Nelson *


Welterweight

Champion - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
1 - Juan Manuel Marquez
2 - Manny Pacquiao
3 - Timothy Bradley Jr.
4 - Devon Alexander
5 - Kell Brook
6 - Marcos Maidana
7 - Robert Guerrero
8 - Andre Berto
9 - Adrien Broner
10 - Paulie Malignaggi


Light Welterweight

Champion - Danny Garcia
1 - Lucas Matthysse
2 - Amir Khan
3 - Mike Alvarado
4 - Lamont Peterson
5 - Brandon Rios
6 - Zab Judah
7 - Khabib Allakhverdiev
8 - Olusegun Ajose
9 - Karim Mayfield
10 - Cesar Rene Cuenca *


Lightweight

Champion - Vacant
1 - Adrien Broner
2 - Ricky Burns
3 - Miguel Vazquez
4 - Richard Abril
5 - Antonio DeMarco
6 - Kevin Mitchell
7 - Sharif Bogere
8 - Raymundo Beltran
9 - Paulus Moses
10 - Gavin Rees  


Super Featherweight

Champion - Vacant
1 - Yuriorkis Gamboa
2 - Takashi Uchiyama
3 - Argenis Mendez
4 - Juan Carlos Burgos
5 - Roman Martinez
6 - Diego Magdaleno
7 - Juan Carlos Salgado *
8 - Takashi Miura *
9 - Gamaliel Diaz *
10 - Takahiro Ao *


Featherweight

Champion - Mikey Garcia
1 - Chris John
2 - Abner Mares
3 - Daniel Ponce De Leon
4 - Orlando Salido
5 - Jhonny Gonzalez
6 - Evgeny Gradovich
7 - Billy Dib
8 - Juan Manuel Lopez
9 -  Robinson Castellanos *
10 - Javier Fortuna *

Super Bantamweight

Champion - Guillermo Rigondeaux
1 - Nonito Donaire
2 - Victor Terrazas *
3 - Carl Frampton
4 - Scott Quigg
5 - Jeffrey Mathebula *
6 - Vic Darchinyan
7 - Leo Santa Cruz
8 - Fernando Montiel
9 - Jorge Arce
10 - Cristian Mijares


Bantamweight

Champion - Vacant
1 - Anselmo Moreno
2 - Shinsuke Yamanaka *
3 - Koki Kameda
4 - Joseph Agbeko
5 - Jamie McDonnell
6 - Julio Ceja

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Below this weight class I only Know 1 or 2 fighters in each of the divisions so cant really do a ranking on them (* - for fighters I haven't seen just read about and gone of their resume)


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Post by davidemore Tue 28 May 2013, 6:25 pm

What is this?

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Post by KO-KING Tue 28 May 2013, 6:30 pm

Cruiserweight

Champion - Yoan Pablo Hernandez
1 - Krzysztof Wlodarczyk
2 - Marco Huck
3 - Guillermo Jones
4 - Ola Afolabi
5 - Denis Lebedev
6 - Lateef Kayode
7 - Firat Arslan
8 - Troy Ross
9 - Mateusz Masternak
10 - Alexander Alekseev

I've only seen the top 7, rest are off their records (who they have fought and results)


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Post by KO-KING Tue 28 May 2013, 6:31 pm

davidemore wrote:What is this?

Just my rankings with in weight classes, the first post just had the Heavyweights, I'll finish it off in a bit

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Post by KO-KING Wed 29 May 2013, 5:34 pm

This is my ranking, this isn't complete to strawweight, simply because I haven't watched enough of those fights between the little guys

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Post by 88Chris05 Thu 30 May 2013, 11:23 am

Nice work, KO-KING. There's not many who'd have the patience to compile something like this!

Could naturally quibble a few placings here and there, as anyone would, but on the whole there isn't much to grumble about. Murray as the number one Middleweight behind the champion in Martinez would perhaps raise a few eyebrows, I guess. I'd probably swap him with Golovkin (as well as Sturm with Macklin) and then maybe remove Oosthuizen completely from the Super-Middleweights right now, but very good stuff overall.
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 30 May 2013, 11:58 am

Murray number 1..............Who's he beat ??

But good effort..

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Post by KO-KING Thu 30 May 2013, 3:33 pm

88Chris05 wrote:Nice work, KO-KING. There's not many who'd have the patience to compile something like this!

Could naturally quibble a few placings here and there, as anyone would, but on the whole there isn't much to grumble about. Murray as the number one Middleweight behind the champion in Martinez would perhaps raise a few eyebrows, I guess. I'd probably swap him with Golovkin (as well as Sturm with Macklin) and then maybe remove Oosthuizen completely from the Super-Middleweights right now, but very good stuff overall.

Thanks, I did it over 2 days, Murray has a debatable loss to sturm and Martinez, I can see why you can have others ahead, but who has Golovkin exactly beaten, he would go number one for me if he beats Macklin though, who would you have instead of Oosthuizen, he has potential, good aggressive style. big guy stands at about 6'3/4'' goes to the body well.

You know much about the lower weights?

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Post by kingraf Thu 30 May 2013, 3:37 pm

How is Tommy Oosthuizen only ten? Behind Groves? Really?
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Post by KO-KING Thu 30 May 2013, 3:38 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Murray number 1..............Who's he beat ??

But good effort..

who has anyone else beat, Golovkin hasnt beaten anyone, Geale you can make an argument for and Quilin, but no one has really done much, Could be said Murray should have W's over Strum and Martinez, if he did so, he would be knocking on the P4P top 10 list if not in it

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Post by KO-KING Thu 30 May 2013, 3:41 pm

kingraf wrote:How is Tommy Oosthuizen only ten? Behind Groves? Really?

Haha, its my opinion, some saying he shouldnt be in top 10, you're saying he should be ahead of groves.

Groves has beaten better opposition, he is now going on to become a contender, Oosthuizen is still a prospect type fighter, Groves has beaten Euro champ undefeated Degale, Undefeated tough anderson, Paul smith who was a solid fighter, veteran Glen Johnson and looked impressive against Alcoba recently

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Post by 88Chris05 Thu 30 May 2013, 3:42 pm

With regards to Murray, well I actually thought that Sturm just about edged him out. A draw wasn't a 'wrong' decision per se at all, but I don't think it's a Harry hard luck story for Murray, either. To put that in to context, Macklin six months prviously had already been much more unfortunate against Sturm, and about six months after that Geale relived the German of his belt.

Granted, Murray was unlucky to not get at least a share of the spoils against Martinez. But from a technical point of view I think Golovkin is a better fighter than Murray and I'd prefer his more emphatic results when trying to trank the 160 pounders, albeit they've come against a slightly lower rank of opposition than the likes of Martinez.

I wouldn't really take much umbrage to you slotting Oosthuizen in at number ten, to be honest, but I just haven't been as impressed with him as others. Very slapdash and wide open, and just doesn't make good enough use of that hiehgt and reach.

I'd probably take him out and slot DeGale in there. Both did about the same quality of job on Zuniga, but DeGale has probably mixed it with slightly better compeition at 168. Groves, who is at number seven in your list, only just scraped by DeGale by the skin of his teeth and there are still plenty who believe DeGale dersved the nod, for instance.

Just a small suggestion, as I said, but nothing really wrong with anything you've posted here.
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Post by kingraf Thu 30 May 2013, 3:46 pm

Ring mag has him at four for a reason. You cant say you selected Groves because he has a better resume, having posted one comment ago that while GGG hasnt beaten anyone, you would put him at number 1 if he beats Macklin, who you have at seven!! Obviously its your opinon, but I think youre wrong.
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Post by KO-KING Thu 30 May 2013, 4:01 pm

88Chris05 wrote:With regards to Murray, well I actually thought that Sturm just about edged him out. A draw wasn't a 'wrong' decision per se at all, but I don't think it's a Harry hard luck story for Murray, either. To put that in to context, Macklin six months prviously had already been much more unfortunate against Sturm, and about six months after that Geale relived the German of his belt.

Granted, Murray was unlucky to not get at least a share of the spoils against Martinez. But from a technical point of view I think Golovkin is a better fighter than Murray and I'd prefer his more emphatic results when trying to trank the 160 pounders, albeit they've come against a slightly lower rank of opposition than the likes of Martinez.

I wouldn't really take much umbrage to you slotting Oosthuizen in at number ten, to be honest, but I just haven't been as impressed with him as others. Very slapdash and wide open, and just doesn't make good enough use of that hiehgt and reach.

I'd probably take him out and slot DeGale in there. Both did about the same quality of job on Zuniga, but DeGale has probably mixed it with slightly better compeition at 168. Groves, who is at number seven in your list, only just scraped by DeGale by the skin of his teeth and there are still plenty who believe DeGale dersved the nod, for instance.

Just a small suggestion, as I said, but nothing really wrong with anything you've posted here.

I actually forgot about Degale..., I had DeGale beating Groves by a point, but Degale has not matched groves since then, Groves is ever Improving, cant say the same about Degale, for me the top 7 is very closely matched. I had the Sturm vs Macklin fight a Draw, I liked the cleaner work of sturm over the workrate of Macklin, although wont argue with anyone scoring it for Macklin

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Post by KO-KING Thu 30 May 2013, 4:06 pm

kingraf wrote:Ring mag has him at four for a reason. You cant say you selected Groves because he has a better resume, having posted one comment ago that while GGG hasnt beaten anyone, you would put him at number 1 if he beats Macklin, who you have at seven!! Obviously its your opinon, but I think youre wrong.

Nobody is a bit of an exaggeration, Macklin is a solid fighter, the top 7 is very close, with no one having a good win of recent, with vs any other equally ranked fighter would hugely boost ones resume, same if Macklin Beat Golovkin he would be pushing for the top spot behind Martinez. How would you justify ranking Ooz over groves

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Post by kingraf Thu 30 May 2013, 5:03 pm

Thomas is a very good fighter, had a very lucky draw a few years back, but barely lost a round since. Put away a solid, if limited Aaron Pryor jr.. Beat fellow up and comer Sierra. Nearly shut out Zuniga (11-1 12-0 11-1). A fight with Stevenson was looming, but kinda disappeared very quickly. Overrall, Groves may get bigger fights in future, physically, he isnt as threatening, while he is fighting in a bigger market
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Post by KO-KING Thu 30 May 2013, 8:09 pm

kingraf wrote:Thomas is a very good fighter, had a very lucky draw a few years back, but barely lost a round since. Put away a solid, if limited Aaron Pryor jr.. Beat fellow up and comer Sierra. Nearly shut out Zuniga (11-1 12-0 11-1). A fight with Stevenson was looming, but kinda disappeared very quickly. Overrall, Groves may get bigger fights in future, physically, he isnt as threatening, while he is fighting in a bigger market

The guy doesnt even use his size

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Post by azania Thu 30 May 2013, 9:58 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Murray number 1..............Who's he beat ??

But good effort..

You have to give these Brits some latitude. Lets ignore the best in the division, GGG, and put Murray above him.

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Post by kingraf Thu 30 May 2013, 10:01 pm

Well, then he has a bigger ceiling then Groves, as it is, I still have him higher
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Post by spencerclarke Fri 31 May 2013, 1:25 pm

Decent job on the whole KO-King. A fee quibbles but a fairly impressive punt, I'd be suprised to see any such list without at least a little bit of personal favourtism. It's a shame some of the complainants don't have a go themselves. Smile

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Post by kingraf Fri 31 May 2013, 3:01 pm

I only picked out one complaint, and I dont think any one came forward with more than two. So it suggest that KO either really knows his boxing, or this site doesnt know as much as it should. I suspect its a bit of the latter, but mostly the former.
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Post by kingraf Fri 31 May 2013, 3:06 pm

Although I dont understand why I should make my own if I agree with everything except one fighter. But for you Spencer.

Heavyweight
Champion - Wladimir Klitchsko
1 - Vitali Klitschko
2 - David Haye
3 - Alexander Povetkin
4 - Tomasz Adamek
5 - Bermane Stiverne
6 - Ruslan Chagaev
7 - Cristobal Arreola
8 - Tyson Fury
9 - Kubrat Pulev
10 - Tony Thompson

Cruiserweight
Champion - Yoan Pablo Hernandez
1 - Krzysztof Wlodarczyk
2 - Marco Huck
3 - Guillermo Jones
4 - Ola Afolabi
5 - Denis Lebedev
6 - Lateef Kayode
7 - Firat Arslan
8 - Troy Ross *
9 - Mateusz Masternak *
10 - Alexander Alekseev *

Light Heavyweight
Champion - Chad Dawson
1 - Bernard Hopkins
2 - Jean Pascal
3 - Nathan Cleverly
4 - Sergei Kovalev
5 - Tavoris Cloud
6 - Tony Bellew
7 - Beibut Shumenov
8 - Isaac Chilemba
9 - Karo Murat
10 - Juergen Braehmer

Super Middleweight
Champion - Andre Ward
1- Carl Froch
2 - Mikkel Kessler
3 - Lucian Bute
4 - Sakio Bika
5 - Robert Stieglitz
6 - Arthur Abraham
7 - Edwin Rodriguez
8 - Adonis Stevenson
9 - Thomas Oosthuizen
10 - George Groves

Middleweight
Champion - Sergio Martinez
1 - Martin Murray
2 - Gennady Golovkin
3 - Daniel Geale
4 - Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
5 - Peter Quillin
6 - Felix Sturm
7 - Matthew Macklin
8 - Sam Soliman
9 - Hassan N'Dam
10 - Darren Barker

Light Middleweight
Champion - Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez
1 - Austin Trout
2 - Miguel Cotto
3 - Erislandy Lara
4 - Carlos Molina
5 - Vanes Martirosyan
6 - Ishe Smith
7 - Demetrius Andrade
8 - Cornelius 'K9' Bundrage
9 - Zaurbek Baysangurov *
10 - Willie Nelson *

Welterweight
Champion - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
1 - Juan Manuel Marquez
2 - Manny Pacquiao
3 - Timothy Bradley Jr.
4 - Devon Alexander
5 - Kell Brook
6 - Robert Guerrero
7 - Andre Berto
8 - Paulie Malignaggi
9 - Marcos Maidana
10 - Ruslan Provodnikov

Light Welterweight
Champion - Danny Garcia
1 - Lucas Matthysse
2 - Amir Khan
3 - Mike Alvarado
4 - Lamont Peterson
5 - Brandon Rios
6 - Zab Judah
7 - Khabib Allakhverdiev
8 - Olusegun Ajose
9 - Karim Mayfield
10 - Cesar Rene Cuenca *

Lightweight
Champion - Vacant
1 - Adrien Broner
2 - Ricky Burns
3 - Miguel Vazquez
4 - Richard Abril
5 - Antonio DeMarco
6 - Kevin Mitchell
7 - Sharif Bogere
8 - Raymundo Beltran
9 - Paulus Moses
10 - Gavin Rees

Super Featherweight
Champion - Vacant
1 - Yuriorkis Gamboa
2 - Takashi Uchiyama
3 - Argenis Mendez
4 - Juan Carlos Burgos
5 - Roman Martinez
6 - Diego Magdaleno
7 - Juan Carlos Salgado *
8 - Takashi Miura *
9 - Gamaliel Diaz *
10 - Takahiro Ao *

Featherweight
Champion - Mikey Garcia
1 - Chris John
2 - Abner Mares
3 - Daniel Ponce De Leon
4 - Orlando Salido
5 - Jhonny Gonzalez
6 - Evgeny Gradovich
7 - Juan Manuel Lopez
8 - Billy Dib
9 - Robinson Castellanos *
10 - Javier Fortuna *

Super Bantamweight
Champion - Guillermo Rigondeaux
1 - Nonito Donaire
2 - Victor Terrazas *
3 - Carl Frampton
4 - Scott Quigg
5 - Jeffrey Mathebula *
6 - Vic Darchinyan
7 - Leo Santa Cruz
8 - Fernando Montiel
9 - Jorge Arce
10 - Cristian Mijares

Bantamweight
Champion - Vacant
1 - Anselmo Moreno
2 - Shinsuke Yamanaka *
3 - Koki Kameda
4 - Joseph Agbeko
5 - Jamie McDonnell
6 - Julio Ceja
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Post by spencerclarke Fri 31 May 2013, 4:49 pm

Haha top man. Good job.

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Post by KO-KING Tue 04 Jun 2013, 8:24 pm

kingraf wrote:Well, then he has a bigger ceiling then Groves, as it is, I still have him higher

sorry I dont know you mean by this comment

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Post by kingraf Tue 04 Jun 2013, 8:31 pm

I mean, with the right technical adjustments. He has the potential to go further than Groves, even if Groves is granted the same adjustments.

But on the raw data we have now, I would still place Tommy higher than Groves.
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Post by KO-KING Tue 04 Jun 2013, 8:34 pm

kingraf wrote:I mean, with the right technical adjustments. He has the potential to go further than Groves, even if Groves is granted the same adjustments.

But on the raw data we have now, I would still place Tommy higher than Groves.

I meant to ask, why you think that (not criticism) just asking

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Post by kingraf Tue 04 Jun 2013, 8:36 pm

Because from a physical stand point, Oosthuizen just tops Groves in all the major areas.
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Post by KO-KING Tue 04 Jun 2013, 8:46 pm

kingraf wrote:Because from a physical stand point, Oosthuizen just tops Groves in all the major areas.

But whats the point if he isnt going to use it, some fighters just don't learn to use their natural gift of size, P Williams is a perfect example of this, Oos looks like he is going down the same way. Even if I thought he has higher potential i wouldnt rank him higher due to the opposition he has faced

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 04 Jun 2013, 9:49 pm

Amir Khan number 2 at 140.........Bless ko-king he'll never change.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Tue 04 Jun 2013, 10:48 pm

Nice post although id have Fury nowhere near top ten (not sure how you have him higher than his recent duck of Pulev).

Id have cleverly ahead of pascal

Id have Froch ahead of Ward

Id have martinez below a lot with golovkin at the top

Khan aint top 5 period

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Post by Boxtthis Wed 05 Jun 2013, 10:04 am

mobilemaster8 wrote:Nice post although id have Fury nowhere near top ten (not sure how you have him higher than his recent duck of Pulev).

Id have cleverly ahead of pascal

Id have Froch ahead of Ward

Id have martinez below a lot with golovkin at the top

Khan aint top 5 period

And where would Fury be on your list? I don't rate him at all, but the HW division is so woeful right now that he's probably fringe top 10.

Pascal has fought and beat far greater opposition that Cleverly has ever thought about facing. Cleverly does not deserve to be top 3 or 4 because he hasn't faced anyone of note.

Froch ahead of Ward? Is that a joke? Ward dismantled both Froch and Kessler, then KO'd the LHW champion. Why do some people insist on claiming that Froch is competing with Ward for top spot right now? Ward has beaten all the top contenders handily and hasn't lost. How can you move him down? That makes no sense. Froch has established himself as a firm second best, that's all.

Martinez is the reigning and defending champion. Golovkin is great, but he's yet to step up in competition. His last two fights have been against middle of the road LMWs. No justification for placing him above Martinez simply on perception of his potential.

With Bradley and Marquez now WWs, the only LWWs you could reasonably put in front of Khan are: Matthysse, Garcia, Alvarado (maybe), Peterson (only if you ignore his cheating), Rios (maybe - but he has no real LWW record). He's beaten Judah and Maidana. It's all very well to say 'he's nowhere near top 5' - but who do you have in front of him?




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Post by KO-KING Sun 09 Jun 2013, 9:35 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Amir Khan number 2 at 140.........Bless ko-king he'll never change.

Ring have it the same way, Alvarado can be ahead of him, but thats the only one

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Post by azania Sun 09 Jun 2013, 9:37 pm

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TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Amir Khan number 2 at 140.........Bless ko-king he'll never change.

Ring have it the same way, Alvarado can be ahead of him, but thats the only one

Garcia and Matthysse should be ahead of him. I have Khan 3rd. When he beats Garcia he will be second. If he boxes smart he will out box Lucas. But its a moot point seeing as he's going up a division to take Alexander's title away from him.

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Post by KO-KING Sun 09 Jun 2013, 9:39 pm

azania wrote:
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TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Amir Khan number 2 at 140.........Bless ko-king he'll never change.

Ring have it the same way, Alvarado can be ahead of him, but thats the only one

Garcia and Matthysse should be ahead of him. I have Khan 3rd. When he beats Garcia he will be second. If he boxes smart he will out box Lucas. But its a moot point seeing as he's going up a division to take Alexander's title away from him.

they are, check the ranking

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Post by KO-KING Mon 10 Jun 2013, 5:42 pm

Dawson down from his champ position, taken by Adonis Stevenson, degale into top 10 after space is left by Adonis Stevenson. maidana moves up after his TKO win, Lara moves up after his win, just enough in my opinion to go past Cotto.

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Post by KO-KING Tue 18 Jun 2013, 6:01 pm

Mikey Garcia retains his position at the top, whilst Lopez moves down and swaps places with Billy Dib

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Post by Boxtthis Tue 18 Jun 2013, 8:22 pm

Vanes Martirosyan vs Demetrius Andrade for the WBO title has been ordered. Baysangurov got stripped, but gets first shot at the winner.

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Post by KO-KING Tue 02 Jul 2013, 5:22 pm

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