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Original 8 divisions to be applied at this very moment.
by ShahenshahG Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:40 pm
If the original 8 divisions were reapplied right now for all future fights how do you see the landscape changing? Who are the winners and the losers? Also what becomes the most talent stacked division?
Just a little refresher.
Flyweight: 8 st (50,802 Kg / 112 lbs)
Bantamweight: 8 st 6 lbs (53,525 kg / 118 lbs)
Featherweight: 9 st (57,153 kg / 126 lbs)
Lightweight: 9 st 9 lbs (61,235 kg / 135 lbs)
Welterweight: 10½ st (66,678 kg / 147 lbs)
Middleweight: 11 st 6 lbs (72,574 kg / 160 lbs)
Light Heavyweight: 12½ st (79,378 kg / 175 lbs)
Heavyweight: (unlimited)
Just a little refresher.
Flyweight: 8 st (50,802 Kg / 112 lbs)
Bantamweight: 8 st 6 lbs (53,525 kg / 118 lbs)
Featherweight: 9 st (57,153 kg / 126 lbs)
Lightweight: 9 st 9 lbs (61,235 kg / 135 lbs)
Welterweight: 10½ st (66,678 kg / 147 lbs)
Middleweight: 11 st 6 lbs (72,574 kg / 160 lbs)
Light Heavyweight: 12½ st (79,378 kg / 175 lbs)
Heavyweight: (unlimited)
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Re: Original 8 divisions to be applied at this very moment.
by jimdig Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:58 am
Heavy - wlad
Light heavy - ward
Middle - Martinez (canelo 2nd favourite by a whisker)
Welter - Floyd
Lightweight - burns (can't see broner dropping back from welter)
Featherweight - doinare (I think he moves up next fight)
Bantamweight - rigendoux (can he drop a couple of pounds?)
Flyweight - (outside my scope)
For the most part, I've taken th approach that weight jumping is most likely upwards. Can't see any of the talent at lww troubling burns. Can't see them troubling Floyd for that matter.
Light heavy - ward
Middle - Martinez (canelo 2nd favourite by a whisker)
Welter - Floyd
Lightweight - burns (can't see broner dropping back from welter)
Featherweight - doinare (I think he moves up next fight)
Bantamweight - rigendoux (can he drop a couple of pounds?)
Flyweight - (outside my scope)
For the most part, I've taken th approach that weight jumping is most likely upwards. Can't see any of the talent at lww troubling burns. Can't see them troubling Floyd for that matter.
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Re: Original 8 divisions to be applied at this very moment.
by hazharrison Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:06 am
Welterweight would be unreal.
I dream this might happen someday.
I dream this might happen someday.
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Re: Original 8 divisions to be applied at this very moment.
by bellchees Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:21 pm
Trying to fight your way through the Welterweight rankings would be ridiculous. Also Floyd would surely have to be more active as there would be so many viable fights in his division and people making a claim to be number 1.
Floyd
Manny
Marquez
Kahn
Ortiz
Bradley
Garcia
Matthysse
Maidana
Alexander
Peterson
Rios
Broner
Berto
Guerrero
Brook
Thurman
Alvarado
That lot off the top of my head in one division would be immense, probably missed a few as well. Fighting your way up the rankings would be a bit tricky.
Floyd
Manny
Marquez
Kahn
Ortiz
Bradley
Garcia
Matthysse
Maidana
Alexander
Peterson
Rios
Broner
Berto
Guerrero
Brook
Thurman
Alvarado
That lot off the top of my head in one division would be immense, probably missed a few as well. Fighting your way up the rankings would be a bit tricky.
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Re: Original 8 divisions to be applied at this very moment.
by hazharrison Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:32 pm
bellchees wrote:Trying to fight your way through the Welterweight rankings would be ridiculous. Also Floyd would surely have to be more active as there would be so many viable fights in his division and people making a claim to be number 1.
Floyd
Manny
Marquez
Kahn
Ortiz
Bradley
Garcia
Matthysse
Maidana
Alexander
Peterson
Rios
Broner
Berto
Guerrero
Brook
Thurman
Alvarado
That lot off the top of my head in one division would be immense, probably missed a few as well. Fighting your way up the rankings would be a bit tricky.
How much healthier would the sport be, though?
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Re: Original 8 divisions to be applied at this very moment.
by ShahenshahG Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:02 pm
I think a division like that would make even Jeff rowley subscribe to boxnation 
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Re: Original 8 divisions to be applied at this very moment.
by Boxtthis Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:05 pm
It's funny: you look at that list and then you realise that Paulie Malignaggi is a title holder at the 147 end. If it was old style divisions he'd be just inside the top 20. I think everyone on this list beats him.bellchees wrote:Trying to fight your way through the Welterweight rankings would be ridiculous. Also Floyd would surely have to be more active as there would be so many viable fights in his division and people making a claim to be number 1.
Floyd
Manny
Marquez
Kahn
Ortiz
Bradley
Garcia
Matthysse
Maidana
Alexander
Peterson
Rios
Broner
Berto
Guerrero
Brook
Thurman
Alvarado
That lot off the top of my head in one division would be immense, probably missed a few as well. Fighting your way up the rankings would be a bit tricky.
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Re: Original 8 divisions to be applied at this very moment.
by All Time Great Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:48 pm
Boxtthis wrote:bellchees wrote:Trying to fight your way through the Welterweight rankings would be ridiculous. Also Floyd would surely have to be more active as there would be so many viable fights in his division and people making a claim to be number 1.
Floyd
Manny
Marquez
Kahn
Ortiz
Bradley
Garcia
Matthysse
Maidana
Alexander
Peterson
Rios
Broner
Berto
Guerrero
Brook
Thurman
Alvarado
That lot off the top of my head in one division would be immense, probably missed a few as well. Fighting your way up the rankings would be a bit tricky.
It's funny: you look at that list and then you realise that Paulie Malignaggi is a title holder at the 147 end. If it was old style divisions he'd be just inside the top 20. I think everyone on this list beats him.
That list is the very resson for multiple weight divisions. It is not commercially viable to have one champion in one weight division.
Having the ability to spread these fighters across 3 weight divisions- namely, LWW,WW & LMW allows for more match ups to happen.
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Re: Original 8 divisions to be applied at this very moment.
by Diamond in the rough Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:58 am
Boxtthis wrote:bellchees wrote:Trying to fight your way through the Welterweight rankings would be ridiculous. Also Floyd would surely have to be more active as there would be so many viable fights in his division and people making a claim to be number 1.
Floyd
Manny
Marquez
Kahn
Ortiz
Bradley
Garcia
Matthysse
Maidana
Alexander
Peterson
Rios
Broner
Berto
Guerrero
Brook
Thurman
Alvarado
That lot off the top of my head in one division would be immense, probably missed a few as well. Fighting your way up the rankings would be a bit tricky.
It's funny: you look at that list and then you realise that Paulie Malignaggi is a title holder at the 147 end. If it was old style divisions he'd be just inside the top 20. I think everyone on this list beats him.
he would be rios by wide UD
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Re: Original 8 divisions to be applied at this very moment.
by hazharrison Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:57 am
Bit of an odd post. There'd still be the same number of fighters. They could still all fight each other!All Time Great wrote:Boxtthis wrote:bellchees wrote:Trying to fight your way through the Welterweight rankings would be ridiculous. Also Floyd would surely have to be more active as there would be so many viable fights in his division and people making a claim to be number 1.
Floyd
Manny
Marquez
Kahn
Ortiz
Bradley
Garcia
Matthysse
Maidana
Alexander
Peterson
Rios
Broner
Berto
Guerrero
Brook
Thurman
Alvarado
That lot off the top of my head in one division would be immense, probably missed a few as well. Fighting your way up the rankings would be a bit tricky.
It's funny: you look at that list and then you realise that Paulie Malignaggi is a title holder at the 147 end. If it was old style divisions he'd be just inside the top 20. I think everyone on this list beats him.
That list is the very resson for multiple weight divisions. It is not commercially viable to have one champion in one weight division.
Having the ability to spread these fighters across 3 weight divisions- namely, LWW,WW & LMW allows for more match ups to happen.
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Re: Original 8 divisions to be applied at this very moment.
by All Time Great Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:39 pm
I don't think number 20 vs number 11 in the division will attract as much attention if it was at the same weight.
In fact, the fighters probably wouldn't even go head to head due to the lower financial rewards.
Yes, in theory it looks good on paper. But in reality, it won't pay. People only really care about who's in the top 5 in a division.
A Rios vs. Mhattyse fight would be top 5 at LWW and be considered a huge figh.
However, at a generic WW fight it would probably go under the radar. Neither fighter would get paid for it therefore, the fight won't happen.
In fact, the fighters probably wouldn't even go head to head due to the lower financial rewards.
Yes, in theory it looks good on paper. But in reality, it won't pay. People only really care about who's in the top 5 in a division.
A Rios vs. Mhattyse fight would be top 5 at LWW and be considered a huge figh.
However, at a generic WW fight it would probably go under the radar. Neither fighter would get paid for it therefore, the fight won't happen.
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