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Post by disneychilly Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:35 am

Anyone have this problem?

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Post by LondonTiger Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:40 am

I am having a variety of "new features" in the last couple of days. I had assumed this was from changing browser from Firefox to Chrome

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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:42 am

Forumotion has rolled out a new upgraded editor. there's a "switch editor mode" button 3 icons to the right of the emoticons, or you could try a different browser
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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:43 am

Some new changes. Can't remember which thread it's on but I think if you click on the bottom right you can drag and shape the text box to your needs Disney.

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Post by GunsGerms Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:50 am

Yes Im having the same problem. There is a little icon on the bottom right hand side of the text box that you can click on and readjust size. However, as of today this doesnt work anymore if you are quoting someones post. Instead the text box just closes in on itself and cannot be readjusted.

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Post by GunsGerms Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:52 am

Actually scratch that the bottom right hand icon seems to be working again. Try it.

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Post by Adam D Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:54 am

Sorry about this guys - I promise its not the admin tinkering with it!
 
If you go to the homepage, in the top section there is a thread where other people have posted issues.
 
I have the same problem at work, I cant quote anymore and if I try to send a PM, my internet crashes completely (this is at work only as the firewall is brutal and we are using Windows -1)
 
If you want to quote, I suggest you copy and paste the stuff you need into the quick reply box, highlight it in there and hit the speech bubble (which quotes it)

https://www.606v2.com/t359p750-help-ask-your-questions-here#2120577

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Post by GunsGerms Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:59 am

Adam D wrote:Sorry about this guys - I promise its not the admin tinkering with it!
 
If you go to the homepage, in the top section there is a thread where other people have posted issues.
 
I have the same problem at work, I cant quote anymore and if I try to send a PM, my internet crashes completely (this is at work only as the firewall is brutal and we are using Windows -1)
 
If you want to quote, I suggest you copy and paste the stuff you need into the quick reply box, highlight it in there and hit the speech bubble (which quotes it)

https://www.606v2.com/t359p750-help-ask-your-questions-here#2120577

Hi Adam, I have the same problem. However, for quoting I can get around this by resizing the text box using the resize icon on the bottom right hand side of the textbox. Sometimes however, then I cant drop the cursor below the quoted text in the text box. This can be resolved by cutting the whole quote and pasting it back in.

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Post by aucklandlaurie Fri Jun 14, 2013 5:30 am

Where I come from we have a saying " If it aint broke, dont fix it"

 I cant get Adam D's directions to work.

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Post by Portnoy's Complaint Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:07 am

<ctl Z> sometimes does what it's meant to do (undo) and sometimes redo or paste it seems.
A bit confusing.

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Post by Exiledinborders Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:13 am

When I use quote button my comments appear as part of the original quote. I am using the same browser as I have been using for years. Something has definitely changed on the site.

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Post by GunsGerms Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:15 am

Exiledinborders wrote:When I use quote button my comments appear as part of the original quote. I am using the same browser as I have been using for years. Something has definitely changed on the site.

Cut the quoted text out completly and then type your message. Then paste the quote back in above.

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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:17 am

Exiledinborders wrote:When I use quote button my comments appear as part of the original quote. I am using the same browser as I have been using for years. Something has definitely changed on the site.

The software provider have done an upgrade - nothing us Admins can do about it Sad

Click on the "switch editor mode" button (to the right of the emoticons smileyface) and you should be OK
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Post by Portnoy's Complaint Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:44 am

I wonder how thorough the testing was at Forumotion.

(Wait a bit and it'll resolve into legible text/image)




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Are some of the pertinent questions asked before signing up to the site to probe their (The forum of forums) new editor.


Forumotion is pleased to announce the arrival of its new editor on your Forums

We have chosen a simple and complete messages editor that allows you to have a direct view of items to put on your forum pages (images, text, colors ...)

This is what it look's like:


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This editor is composed of two modes:




  • WYSIWYG mode,
    Which displays the elements as they should appear on-line on your forum.
  • Source code mode,
    Which displays all the corresponding BBCode tags.



You can switch between thoses two modes via this button:


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Here is a detailed list of the new Editor Features:


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Note:

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  • Enable extended message editor
  • Enable WYSIWYG by default in messages




The text box shrinks when I'm typing. Not sure how to rectify. Icon_exclaim2. This new editor is still in beta. Therefore, there may still be some bugs. These will be corrected by gathering feedback from the community. (It should be noted that the change will not be in your admin panel.)


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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:16 am

I find the best way to deal with shrinkage is to tie a rubber band around it...

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Post by Portnoy's Complaint Thu Jun 20, 2013 9:09 am

Have to say that ForuMotion's imposed changes make 606v2 worse.

The new quote facility is truly crêpe.

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Post by Effervescing Elephant Thu Jun 20, 2013 9:11 am

greytiger wrote:Have to say that ForuMotion's imposed changes make 606v2 worse.

The new quote facility is truly crêpe.

Wow, just worked out how to get the old quote view back. New one is pure shoite!
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Post by SecretFly Thu Jun 20, 2013 9:19 am

All I wanted to know was how to get the bloody cursor out of another guy's quote!!!!

So I was forced to find the old system pretty promptly. It's funny how quick the mind works when you're mad....(angry Whistle )

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Post by Portnoy's Complaint Thu Jun 20, 2013 9:36 am

But. But.
I'm not anti-change so I don't want to, however tiny any improvements are to improve the platform, to be a saboteur or a Luddite.

I'm all for progress. Except when it goes backwards.

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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Thu Jun 20, 2013 9:46 am

greytiger wrote:But. But.
I'm not anti-change so I don't want to, however tiny any improvements are to improve the platform, to be a saboteur or a Luddite.

I'm all for progress. Except when it goes backwards.

Hi all,

I think (note the word) that I've managed to at least make the non-wysiwyg editor the default option when quoting - which will hopefully at least save you clicking the "switch editor" button every new session. Please let me know if that hasn't worked, it's the 1st time I've ever used javascript.


Forumotion are well aware of the bug (there's a nice 1000-post thread on their forum full of forum admins complaining about it), touch wood they find a solution quickly.

There are other bugs being reported by other forums around Internet Explorer (vomit ) and the mobile version.
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Post by Portnoy's Complaint Thu Jun 20, 2013 9:58 am

A 'new session' meaning re-logged into v2?

On an individual comment I just c&p the phrase and utilise the user ref facility in the quote icon and paste.

Fifty shades of crêpe.

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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:16 am

greytiger wrote:A 'new session' meaning re-logged into v2?

On an individual comment I just c&p the phrase and utilise the user ref facility in the quote icon and paste.

Fifty shades of crêpe.

Yep, a new browser session.


Compared to some of the guys complaining to Forumotion your expression of annoyance is actually rather mild GT Smile
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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:20 am

Pete C (Kiwireddevil) wrote:

greytiger wrote:A 'new session' meaning re-logged into v2?

On an individual comment I just c&p the phrase and utilise the user ref facility in the quote icon and paste.

Fifty shades of crêpe.



Yep, a new browser session.


Compared to some of the guys complaining to Forumotion your expression of annoyance is actually rather mild GT Smile
Yahoo, looks like I've managed a fix - I'm typing this in the fancy editor version Smile Yahoo
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Post by SecretFly Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:23 am

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greytiger wrote:A 'new session' meaning re-logged into v2?

On an individual comment I just c&p the phrase and utilise the user ref facility in the quote icon and paste.

Fifty shades of crêpe.





Yep, a new browser session.


Compared to some of the guys complaining to Forumotion your expression of annoyance is actually rather mild GT Smile


Yahoo, looks like I've managed a fix - I'm typing this in the fancy editor version Smile Yahoo
Testing, testing!!!!  So am I..but for how long???

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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:28 am

SecretFly wrote:

Pete C (Kiwireddevil) wrote:



Pete C (Kiwireddevil) wrote:





greytiger wrote:A 'new session' meaning re-logged into v2?

On an individual comment I just c&p the phrase and utilise the user ref facility in the quote icon and paste.

Fifty shades of crêpe.







Yep, a new browser session.


Compared to some of the guys complaining to Forumotion your expression of annoyance is actually rather mild GT Smile




Yahoo, looks like I've managed a fix - I'm typing this in the fancy editor version Smile Yahoo


Testing, testing!!!!  So am I..but for how long???
Laugh

Well we're all right so far

(said the optimist after falling off the highrise roof when he was halfway to the ground)
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Post by Portnoy's Complaint Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:36 am

Pete C (Kiwireddevil) wrote:
SecretFly wrote:


Pete C (Kiwireddevil) wrote:




Pete C (Kiwireddevil) wrote:






greytiger wrote:A 'new session' meaning re-logged into v2?

On an individual comment I just c&p the phrase and utilise the user ref facility in the quote icon and paste.

Fifty shades of crêpe.








Yep, a new browser session.


Compared to some of the guys complaining to Forumotion your expression of annoyance is actually rather mild GT Smile





Yahoo, looks like I've managed a fix - I'm typing this in the fancy editor version Smile Yahoo




Testing, testing!!!!  So am I..but for how long???

Laugh

Well we're all right so far

(said the optimist after falling off the highrise roof when he was halfway to the ground)

It's only the final mm that counts.
This is a Firefox test.

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Post by Portnoy's Complaint Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:53 am

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greytiger wrote:But. But.
I'm not anti-change so I don't want to, however tiny any improvements are to improve the platform, to be a saboteur or a Luddite.

I'm all for progress. Except when it goes backwards.


Hi all,

I think (note the word) that I've managed to at least make the non-wysiwyg editor the default option when quoting - which will hopefully at least save you clicking the "switch editor" button every new session. Please let me know if that hasn't worked, it's the 1st time I've ever used javascript.

Forumotion are well aware of the bug (there's a nice 1000-post thread on their forum full of forum admins complaining about it), touch wood they find a solution quickly.

There are other bugs being reported by other forums around Internet Explorer (vomit ) and the mobile version.

Just another test. This time of expected functionality.


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Post by Knowsit17 Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:17 am

I don't seem to be able to quote anyone and write anything outside the quote box. Basically anything I want to add in reference just looks like part of the quote, it won't let me type anything outside the same box as the quote. Judging by a couple of comments some people are having the same problem.

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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:20 am

Knowsit17 wrote:I don't seem to be able to quote anyone and write anything outside the quote box. Basically anything I want to add in reference just looks like part of the quote, it won't let me type anything outside the same box as the quote. Judging by a couple of comments some people are having the same problem.


That's the problem I've just fixed (hopefully - see upthread), can you try again? 

If it doesn't work, what browser are you using?
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Post by Knowsit17 Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:22 am

Apologies, only just realised my problem's already been mentioned. Cheers:thumbsup:

Edit: I use Chrome btw

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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:26 am

Knowsit17 wrote:Apologies, only just realised my problem's already been mentioned. Cheers👍

Edit: I use Chrome btw
There's also still a problem with spaces around smilies apparently Smile - you may need to hit the space bar 1st.
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Post by Knowsit17 Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:32 am

Pete C (Kiwireddevil) wrote:

Knowsit17 wrote:Apologies, only just realised my problem's already been mentioned. Cheers👍

Edit: I use Chrome btw


There's also still a problem with spaces around smilies apparently Smile - you may need to hit the space bar 1st.

Noted, it showed as a smiley when I first clicked the icon.

As you may be able to tell the quote problem seems to be solved Yahoo

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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:40 am

Knowsit17 wrote:

Pete C (Kiwireddevil) wrote:



Knowsit17 wrote:Apologies, only just realised my problem's already been mentioned. Cheers👍

Edit: I use Chrome btw




There's also still a problem with spaces around smilies apparently Smile - you may need to hit the space bar 1st.



Noted, it showed as a smiley when I first clicked the icon.

As you may be able to tell the quote problem seems to be solved Yahoo

I used to get annoyed by the added space put in by the smilies, as I'd usually already typed a space - so the change works for me Wink
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Post by nathan Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:51 am

I know I asked a while back but is there anymore thoughts about moving to your own hosting, making it all a more combined experience?

The revenue from the ads would cover some of the costs and I'm we could all donate a few pennies to hello out.

I would love us to get to the stage of having even having our own mobile apps

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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:17 pm

nathan wrote:I know I asked a while back but is there anymore thoughts about moving to your own hosting, making it all a more combined experience?

The revenue from the ads would cover some of the costs and I'm we could all donate a few pennies to hello out.

I would love us to get to the stage of having even having our own mobile apps


There's a few issues with a change:
*Firstly there's porting people over - Forumotion owns the domain name "www.606v2.com" and the membership database, so we'd have to get everyone over to a new name, and manually recreate everyone's user ids (as an Admin I can "see" your email address in via the Admin area, but copying the email address field is disabled as a security measure (a good one IMO)). There's a lot of potential for error in manually typing usernames and email addresses into a new system. On the plus side it'd let us get rid of the "606" handle, which the BBC aren't too impressed we're using. But persuading our whole user base to move with us would be tricky.

*Secondly, message board software for self-hosting is generally either expensive, or rubbish (or at least it was the last time we looked into it) - with Forumotion we get a bit of control over the ads, and the ads at least cover the hosting charges. And us Admins probably don't have the right sort of tech savvy to do that stuff ourselves.

We have toyed with a change from time to time, but ultimately decided to try expanding the v2Journal side, which we have a lot more control over


As far as mobile apps goes, apparently (I found out today while researching the quoting issue) there were improvements to the mobile site rolled out in Feb (I don't actually know anyone who still used the old version given how bad the beta was), but the new editor has major issues with the mobile site (worse than the Internet Explorer 7/8 and Windows XP problems). We've also been lucky that we hadn't done any customisation of the old editor, forums that did are in a lot of pain now.
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Post by nathan Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:27 pm

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nathan wrote:I know I asked a while back but is there anymore thoughts about moving to your own hosting, making it all a more combined experience?

The revenue from the ads would cover some of the costs and I'm we could all donate a few pennies to hello out.

I would love us to get to the stage of having even having our own mobile apps



There's a few issues with a change:
*Firstly there's porting people over - Forumotion owns the domain name "www.606v2.com" and the membership database, so we'd have to get everyone over to a new name, and manually recreate everyone's user ids (as an Admin I can "see" your email address in via the Admin area, but copying the email address field is disabled as a security measure (a good one IMO)). There's a lot of potential for error in manually typing usernames and email addresses into a new system. On the plus side it'd let us get rid of the "606" handle, which the BBC aren't too impressed we're using. But persuading our whole user base to move with us would be tricky.

*Secondly, message board software for self-hosting is generally either expensive, or rubbish (or at least it was the last time we looked into it) - with Forumotion we get a bit of control over the ads, and the ads at least cover the hosting charges. And us Admins probably don't have the right sort of tech savvy to do that stuff ourselves.

We have toyed with a change from time to time, but ultimately decided to try expanding the v2Journal side, which we have a lot more control over


As far as mobile apps goes, apparently (I found out today while researching the quoting issue) there were improvements to the mobile site rolled out in Feb (I don't actually know anyone who still used the old version given how bad the beta was), but the new editor has major issues with the mobile site (worse than the Internet Explorer 7/8 and Windows XP problems). We've also been lucky that we hadn't done any customisation of the old editor, forums that did are in a lot of pain now.

ah cool, thanks for your response. phpBB (the forum software used) is free and can be easily installed on separate hosting. I've done my own forum and combined it with wordpress (well just finishing it off) and its working well. I'll have a look into if there is a way around moving the dB from forumotion to hosting elsewhere. I'm more than willing to help out with the techy stuff. Who should I pm if I find anything?

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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:29 pm

nathan wrote:



Pete C (Kiwireddevil) wrote:




nathan wrote:I know I asked a while back but is there anymore thoughts about moving to your own hosting, making it all a more combined experience?

The revenue from the ads would cover some of the costs and I'm we could all donate a few pennies to hello out.

I would love us to get to the stage of having even having our own mobile apps







There's a few issues with a change:
*Firstly there's porting people over - Forumotion owns the domain name "www.606v2.com" and the membership database, so we'd have to get everyone over to a new name, and manually recreate everyone's user ids (as an Admin I can "see" your email address in via the Admin area, but copying the email address field is disabled as a security measure (a good one IMO)). There's a lot of potential for error in manually typing usernames and email addresses into a new system. On the plus side it'd let us get rid of the "606" handle, which the BBC aren't too impressed we're using. But persuading our whole user base to move with us would be tricky.

*Secondly, message board software for self-hosting is generally either expensive, or rubbish (or at least it was the last time we looked into it) - with Forumotion we get a bit of control over the ads, and the ads at least cover the hosting charges. And us Admins probably don't have the right sort of tech savvy to do that stuff ourselves.

We have toyed with a change from time to time, but ultimately decided to try expanding the v2Journal side, which we have a lot more control over


As far as mobile apps goes, apparently (I found out today while researching the quoting issue) there were improvements to the mobile site rolled out in Feb (I don't actually know anyone who still used the old version given how bad the beta was), but the new editor has major issues with the mobile site (worse than the Internet Explorer 7/8 and Windows XP problems). We've also been lucky that we hadn't done any customisation of the old editor, forums that did are in a lot of pain now.





ah cool, thanks for your response. phpBB (the forum software used) is free and can be easily installed on separate hosting. I've done my own forum and combined it with wordpress (well just finishing it off) and its working well. I'll have a look into if there is a way around moving the dB from forumotion to hosting elsewhere. I'm more than willing to help out with the techy stuff. Who should I pm if I find anything?


Probably myself or Adam D. It's a fair while ago that we looked into the dB porting stuff - funnily enough Forumotion aren't keen on anything that helps someone leave them Wink
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Post by nathan Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:36 pm

Haha, yeah I've just been reading that elsewhere. Apparently they use a "modified" version of phpbb so that's why they can't export the database for you.... yeah right

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Post by nathan Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:41 pm

Looks like it's possible but would a password reset for everyone's account as of course passwords are stored in a hashed format.

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