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Melbourne Rebels v British & Irish Lions, 25 June
First topic message reminder :
AAMI Park, Melbourne
Tuesday June 25, 7:40pm local
Referee: Glen Jackson (New Zealand)
Referee: Romain Poite (France), Craig Joubert (South Africa)
Television match official: Ben Skeen (New Zealand)
Assessor: Lyndon Bray
TEAM LINE UPS:
Rebels
01. Nic Henderson
02. Ged Robinson
03. Laurie Weeks
04. Cadeyrn Neville
05. Hugh Pyle
06. Jarrod Saffy
07. Scott Fuglistaller
08. Gareth Delve (c)
09. Luke Burgess^
10. Bryce Hegarty
11. Lachlan Mitchell
12. Rory Sidey
13. Mitch Inman
14. Tom English
15. Jason Woodward
Replacements:
16. Pat Leafa
17. Cruze Ah Nau*
18. Paul Alo-Emile
19. Luke Jones
20. Jordy Reid
21. Nic Stirzaker
22. Angus Roberts
23. Cooper Vuna
*Rebels debut
^Rebels first start
Lions:
15. Rob Kearney
14. Sean Maitland
13. Manu Tuilagi
12. Brad Barritt
11. Simon Zebo
10. Owen Farrell
09. Conor Murray
08. Toby Faletau
07. Sean O'Brien
06. Dan Lydiate (captain)
05. Ian Evans
04. Richie Gray
03. Dan Cole
02. Richard Hibbard
01. Ryan Grant
Replacements:
Rory Best, Tom Court, Matt Stevens, Tom Croft, Justin Tipuric, Ben Youngs, Billy Twelvetrees, Stuart Hogg.
Preview 1 (from ESPN Sport):
AAMI Park, Melbourne
Tuesday June 25, 7:40pm local
Referee: Glen Jackson (New Zealand)
Referee: Romain Poite (France), Craig Joubert (South Africa)
Television match official: Ben Skeen (New Zealand)
Assessor: Lyndon Bray
TEAM LINE UPS:
Rebels
01. Nic Henderson
02. Ged Robinson
03. Laurie Weeks
04. Cadeyrn Neville
05. Hugh Pyle
06. Jarrod Saffy
07. Scott Fuglistaller
08. Gareth Delve (c)
09. Luke Burgess^
10. Bryce Hegarty
11. Lachlan Mitchell
12. Rory Sidey
13. Mitch Inman
14. Tom English
15. Jason Woodward
Replacements:
16. Pat Leafa
17. Cruze Ah Nau*
18. Paul Alo-Emile
19. Luke Jones
20. Jordy Reid
21. Nic Stirzaker
22. Angus Roberts
23. Cooper Vuna
*Rebels debut
^Rebels first start
Lions:
15. Rob Kearney
14. Sean Maitland
13. Manu Tuilagi
12. Brad Barritt
11. Simon Zebo
10. Owen Farrell
09. Conor Murray
08. Toby Faletau
07. Sean O'Brien
06. Dan Lydiate (captain)
05. Ian Evans
04. Richie Gray
03. Dan Cole
02. Richard Hibbard
01. Ryan Grant
Replacements:
Rory Best, Tom Court, Matt Stevens, Tom Croft, Justin Tipuric, Ben Youngs, Billy Twelvetrees, Stuart Hogg.
Preview 1 (from ESPN Sport):
Preview 2 (from ABC Sport):
Luke Burgess to direct Rebels
ESPN Staff
June 23, 2013
Luke Burgess will make his first start in Australia in almost two years after being named in Melbourne Rebels' run-on side to play the British & Irish Lions at AAMI Park on Tuesday.
Burgess, who has played 37 Tests for the Wallabies, recently returned to Australia from French Top 14 side with a stated aim of facing the Lions. "Every rugby player's dream is to have the opportunity to play the British & Irish Lions in their home country, and I am very honoured to have been selected to start for the Rebels and get a chance to play them," Burgess said. "Having been in Melbourne a couple of weeks now, I have built some solid combinations with this young playing group, and have enjoyed working alongside Nic Stirzaker in the half-back role. Together, we have both been able to apply a game plan that will look to challenge the Lions, and something we are both looking forward to."
Burgess made mention of the contrasting style between the two continents as a point of difference in his game management. "European rugby is a lot different to what we have down under, and I think I can bring an edge to the Rebels' attack and control the tempo of the game. It's important we establish this early, as we have seen what they can do when allowed to control the match."
Kurtley Beale, James O'Connor and Nick Phipps are unavailable for selection due to Wallabaies commitments, but the Rebels welcome the return of Hugh Pyle and Jarrod Saffy from injury. Rookie fly-half Bryce Hegarty also returns to the run-on side after missing the Rebels' previous match due to illness.
"There are many great milestones in this match," Rebels coach Damien Hill said. "Not only is it the first opportunity the Rebels have to play the British & Irish Lions in front of our members and fans, but it will be the first match for Cruze Ah-Nau at the Rebels and Luke's first start at the club. I am very proud of the way Melbourne has embraced the Rebels, and we hope to repay that with a record attendance at AAMI Park, and a historical moment in Victorian sporting history.
"We have been without a number of our high-profile players this season but the squad has met these challenges head on with many of the younger members like Bryce, Tom English, Jason Woodward, Jordy Reid, Angus Roberts and Pat Leafa getting their first taste of Super Rugby. Their efforts have contributed to a number of excellent team performances this season and they are excited about the challenge they will face together on Tuesday night."
2013 Lions Tour: England centre Manu Tuilagi to face Melbourne Rebels on Tuesday
England centre Manu Tuilagi will return to action after injury against the Melbourne Rebels on Tuesday after coach Warren Gatland named him in the British and Irish Lions team for the match on Sunday.
Tuilagi suffered a shoulder injury during the match against the Queensland Reds two weeks ago and has not played since but will link up with Brad Barritt for the match against Australia's youngest Super Rugby team.
The team will be led by England lock Geoff Parling, who links up in the second row with Scotland's Richie Gray in a strong pack.
Although this was clearly a second string, or dirt-tracker, team, Gatland said a good performance would put players in contention for the second Test, where they will be looking to wrap up the series after Saturday's 23-21 win over the Wallabies.
"I think it's important for the players to get an opportunity on Tuesday," the New Zealander said.
"We've kept saying all along that there's still a chance for performances to really catch the eye and Tuesday night is another chance to go out and impress.
"We were disappointed with the Brumbies result, I think it was a gentle reminder of certain things we needed to remember for the Test match.
"So for certain guys taking the field on Tuesday, it would be nice to continue with that momentum for the second Test."
Several players saw their Test places go up in smoke when the Lions lost to a Brumbies side in Canberra last Tuesday and get a chance to make amends.
There is also a string contingent of players who were on the bench against the Wallabies at Lang Park, including loose forward Dan Lydiate and Scottish back Sean Maitland.
Owen Farrell starts at fly half in a halves partnership with Irishman Conor Murray while hooker Rory Best, who captained the Lions against the Brumbies, is named among the replacements.
Sean O'Brien gets a chance to impress at openside flanker with Lydiate coming in at blindside and Justin Tipuric, a favourite of many for a Test start at the beginning of the tour, on the bench.
Irish winger Tommy Bowe, who played a major role on the 2009 series in South Africa, has made a rapid recovery after fracturing a bone in his hand against the Reds but was not included in the team to ensure he is fit for Saturday.
There was also good news about another centre, Welsh battering ram Jamie Roberts, who sustained a hamstring strain in last weekend's match against the New South Wales Waratahs.
"They've done a fantastic job getting those guys back and fit and we don't think Jamie Roberts is too far away as well, he was up and running last week and he's potentially in contention for that second Test as well," Gatland said on Sunday.
"So to have Tommy fit and back and to have Manu fit and back as well it's a great contribution from the medical team and the fitness staff.
"The squad is looking healthy, we've got nearly everyone available, which is great, and if you look at the Australians, they took a bit of a battering last night.
"So we're in a good place now and looking forward to Tuesday."
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Victor he hasn't thrown a crooked one yet - the last line out was a knock on by Gray
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On train from HK to Guanzhou listening on RTE....that sounded like a cracker.
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Zebo threw the final pass out to Maitlandbsando wrote:I don't think zebo was part of that try, maitland threw the pass to Tuilagi then got back round to his position on wingCari wrote:Wowsers! Great passing between Tuilagi, Zebo and Faletau! Try for Maitland!
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Re: Melbourne Rebels v British & Irish Lions, 25 June
Mutter mutter meetings mutter mutter
I can't be bothered pasting in the 1st 15 mins of comments from the Beeb - see http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/23038841
I can't be bothered pasting in the 1st 15 mins of comments from the Beeb - see http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/23038841
BBC Sport wrote:15 mins:
TRY (MURRAY, CON FARRELL) - Melbourne Rebels 0-7 Lions
The Lions disassemble the Rebels at a five metre scrum. Number eight Toby Faletau is held just short but Ireland scrum-half Conor Murray spins over the line to score. Owen Farrell makes it 16 successful kicks from 17 on tour as he slots the tricky conversion.
19 mins:
Melbourne Rebels 0-7 Lions
The Lions are destroying the Rebel scrum. Darth Vader would be pleased.
22 mins:
Melbourne Rebels 0-7 Lions
Scrum superb, line-out not so hot. Richie Gray loses control this time.
Great play from Toby Faletau though to win a penalty at a ruck, Owen Farrell kicks to the corner but once again the Lions' handling lets them down as Dan Cole knocks on five metres from the line.
24 mins:
Melbourne Rebels 0-7 Lions
The Lions front row slumps to the ground like a stroppy toddler, penalty Rebels and they clear their lines. Frustrating for the visitors.
25 mins:
MISSED PENALTY (Woodward) - Melbourne Rebels 0-7 Lions
Sean O'Brien penalised for offside at a ruck. First points for the hosts?
It's pretty straight, just inside the Lions' 10m line, and Jason Woodward... pushes it wide.
28 mins:
TRY (MAITLAND, CON FARRELL)- Melbourne Rebels 0-14 Lions
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VictorU3 wrote:I just don't understand it a NFL quarter back can throw a ball 50m+ on the spot yet our hookers can't throw the ball 5-15m straight!
Its pants can't someone else throw it in?
Good try Maitland made by Manu, has to start the test imo.
Don't have to be dead straight for a QB throw, usually throwing for a player to run onto to at least within a margin of error. Also, top QBs are rare and very valuable because the ability to make those passes is very very hard and America probably has as many people playing NFL as there are rugby players in the world and JUST ABOUT enough top QBs for every franchise to have one
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Ahh unlucky. Good stepping by zebo. Zebo Maitland wing combo is nice to watch!
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Scoped wrote:Except how often does a QB not make his pass?
Well that depends on the other team but during practice they are very accurate, its not like the hooker is going to be flattened before he throws it no excuse imo.
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Bsandro - before Faletau slipped there was some great passes from Tuilagi and Zebo all coming from a great SOB pass. It was a shame that Faletau slipped, but it worked out in the end anyway, they got the position they needed.
Shame that was forward.
Shame that was forward.
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Pyleboy65 wrote:Victor he hasn't thrown a crooked one yet - the last line out was a knock on by Gray
Not crooked just not to a jumper.
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SoB having a great game
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36 on for Barritt who's been blood subbed.
Kiwi - we've been posting updates here anyway.
Kiwi - we've been posting updates here anyway.
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BBC Sport wrote:28 mins:
TRY (MAITLAND, CON FARRELL) - Melbourne Rebels 0-14 Lions
That's a gem from the Lions. Sean O'Brien's pop pass finds Manu Tuilagi at pace and he blasts through Gareth Delve, takes out three more men and finds Sean Maitland on the inside.
The Scotland winger makes 30m and finds Toby Faletau, and although the Wales number eight slips just short of the line, the Lions recycle and quick hands from Simon Zebo send Maitland over in the corner.
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Yeah he's been really good at the breakdownRDW_Scotland wrote:SoB having a great game
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ChequeredJersey wrote:VictorU3 wrote:I just don't understand it a NFL quarter back can throw a ball 50m+ on the spot yet our hookers can't throw the ball 5-15m straight!
Its pants can't someone else throw it in?
Good try Maitland made by Manu, has to start the test imo.
Don't have to be dead straight for a QB throw, usually throwing for a player to run onto to at least within a margin of error. Also, top QBs are rare and very valuable because the ability to make those passes is very very hard and America probably has as many people playing NFL as there are rugby players in the world and JUST ABOUT enough top QBs for every franchise to have one
Yeh I doubt Aaron Rodgers, Brady, Manning bros cannot throw a rugby ball like a nfl football. Roll on sept!
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POC still there watching the game. He's staying until the end of tour anyway apparently. Love the way AWJ notices the camera and tries to hide his black eye.
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I mean that even after the pass is thrown they still miss their targets often
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Lydiate's making some good tackles again.
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Also Hookers have to do a lot of physical stuff and defence and breakdown work. QBs' bread and butter is passing straight under pressure and tweaking the pre-learned gameplan
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SOB looking really good but it does help having two other back row who are doing their job and not out in the backs looking for glory.
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Cari wrote:Lydiate's making some good tackles again.
Lydiate and SOB both have a lot to play for, I still think one could feature on Saturday
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Scoped wrote:I mean that even after the pass is thrown they still miss their targets often
As do our hookers who only have to throw it a few metres and have time to compose themselfs, I'm sorry its a basic skill no excuse for poor throwing imo
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Lydiate is having a stormer leaving SOB to do what a 7 should do
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Lions offside, Rebels going for the corner rather than taking the three points. Bold decision from Delve.
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Never said theres an excuse, just that its a popr comparison
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Yay! Ianto gets the ball away to safety.
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Faletau, Gray and Lydiate making a hell of a lot of tackles.
Please can our backline stop being surprised by SOB's offloads and catch a few of them?
Please can our backline stop being surprised by SOB's offloads and catch a few of them?
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Barritt back on now he's patched up.
Barritt back on now he's patched up.
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Re: Melbourne Rebels v British & Irish Lions, 25 June
BBC Sport wrote:37 mins:
Melbourne Rebels 0-14 Lions
Something that was awful, but has now improved dramatically (now that's a segue people) is the Lions line-out. Richard Hibbard finds his man and the tourists clear their lines.
38 mins:
Melbourne Rebels 0-14 Lions
Rebels on the attack, Lions fall offside and the hosts kick to the corner. Crowd delighted.
Crowd then less delighted as the Lions steal the line-out courtesy of Ian Evans and clear.
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Well, the English players in the team have never seen an offload before...
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I would say leave 36 on. Cole is still looking a little out of sorts or is it just me? Hes much better than what these games suggest
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http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/completionPct
QBs aren't THAT accurate, btw
QBs aren't THAT accurate, btw
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Scoped wrote:Never said theres an excuse, just that its a popr comparison
Practice makes perfect imo, its a basic skill for a Pro to get right.
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Cole seems less involved than grant, but grant is looking a bit out of it too to be honest. When he plays for Scotland he usually looks sharper in the loose. Seems to be a bit sluggish tonight.
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How is Grant getting on?
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Riskysports wrote:How is Grant getting on?
Seems to be doing OK although he took a massive hit from Delve early on. Sky pundits reckon Grant is in with shout for the test side as is Ianto they say.
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ChequeredJersey wrote:Well, the English players in the team have never seen an offload before...
:OK:
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Grant is looking good in scrum and has been good in loose, but not as good as we know he can be.
As well as grant I would say Evans is playing well, Maitland, tuilagi, sob and lydiate. All pushing for a test spot.
As well as grant I would say Evans is playing well, Maitland, tuilagi, sob and lydiate. All pushing for a test spot.
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GZ is one of the worst places I have ever visited. Its a wonder that your internet is actually fast enough to stream in audio. The government slows everything down so much. Hopefully you have a good hotel.mid_gen wrote:On train from HK to Guanzhou listening on RTE....that sounded like a cracker.
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Has anyone put their hands up for Test selection (would prefer people to suggest players from another country to remove inherent bias)?
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Farrell looking sharp. Plenty of endeavour.
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He took a very heavy blow from Delve early on which seemed to give him a black eye and certainly has left him dazed. He's made a lot of tackles, was instrumental in a couple of scrum penalties and conceded one when he turned his shoulder in and dropped the front row. Hopefully he'll get his head cleared at half time and come back strongly.Riskysports wrote:How is Grant getting on?
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LondonTiger wrote:Has anyone put their hands up for Test selection (would prefer people to suggest players from another country to remove inherent bias)?
SOB and Lydiate and Faletau have all done what they do rather well. Farrell looks assured though he won't start
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Agree. But Lions have only two tries. Against this team should be a lot more by now.bsando wrote:Grant is looking good in scrum and has been good in loose, but not as good as we know he can be.
As well as grant I would say Evans is playing well, Maitland, tuilagi, sob and lydiate. All pushing for a test spot.
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Tuilagi looking like a freight train going forward but I get really nervous about how often he shoots out of the defensive line. He's done it all game. Probably just desperate to get involved, but it really bends our defensive shape.
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The whole backrow are doing well enough. There's no reason why two of them couldn't go in to the test team and one for the bench.
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Don't worry Doc. The floodgates will open in the next 40.
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LondonTiger wrote:Has anyone put their hands up for Test selection (would prefer people to suggest players from another country to remove inherent bias)?
Farrell and Tuilagi.
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Farrell for Sexton in the 2nd test?
Not a joke, he offers a more controlled game imo, just needs someone to tell him not to kick all the time.
Not a joke, he offers a more controlled game imo, just needs someone to tell him not to kick all the time.
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