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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 28 Jun 2013, 9:02 am

Mine would be..........Turning round Holmes robbery against Spinks in the 2nd fight and see how history changed..........

My guess is Holmes would stay in the HBO unification series (ego was too big!!)..........Would lose to Tyson in 87..........Douglas happens sooner ( after all Holmes and Spinks 88 and 89 fights need filling!!!) maybe in America and he probably quits like he did against Tucker as the logistics are different......Tyson - Holy happens in 90...........with for me Tyson winning.........

Whether Washington happens or not remains to be seen........

However just that result changes everything...........

Runner up - Curry - Honey...........

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Post by Fists of Fury Fri 28 Jun 2013, 9:10 am

Naz against Barrera.

We were robbed of some stunning bouts by that one - imagine Naz v Morales for a start? The humdinger that never was. Naz Marquez. Naz Pacquiao. It could have proved even more of a golden era.

The most annoying thing is that victory was within Naz's grasp, too. Application was sadly lacking around that time of his career. It was never a question of talent.

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Post by Fists of Fury Fri 28 Jun 2013, 9:10 am

Good article by the way Trussy, very interesting.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 28 Jun 2013, 9:13 am

Flattery will get you everywhere...........

Interesting to see where Naz goes If he beats Barrera..........maybe Morales.........

Funny thing is Naz couldn't win........He loses to Barrera he's over rated.......If he'd won Marco was on the slide..

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Post by Rowley Fri 28 Jun 2013, 9:21 am

Like Fists would have to be Naz Barrera for me solely because I was a huge Naz fan and I cannot remember a result that upset me so much. However think the result would not have made that much difference to his career. By that point Naz had surrounded himself with yes men and was playing at the game and his training. A win in that would have just reinforced his misguided belief he could get away with not putting the graft in and sooner or later someone proving him wrong was an inevitability.

From a more practical point of view suspect Lewis not getting splattered by McCall may have been a good one. Not impossible without this the fights with Bowe and Tyson could have materialized, which would have been good at the time.

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Post by rob-glos Fri 28 Jun 2013, 9:21 am

Brentford losing to Yeovil in the play off final.

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Post by Fists of Fury Fri 28 Jun 2013, 9:24 am

I think Morales would have been the natural progression. Erik would have wanted to get one over on Naz to prove a point to Marco too, you'd have thought.

Rowley's correct though...at that stage Naz would simply have relaxed even more and furthered his obsession with his own power. There were some classy operators around at the time and you can be sure that one of them would have shown otherwise.

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Post by Valero's Conscience Fri 28 Jun 2013, 10:02 am

Castillo getting the nod against Mayweather first time out.

Then there would have been the possibility of Floyd fighting far more regularly in better fights as he wouldn't have been cautious about his '0'.

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Post by Fists of Fury Fri 28 Jun 2013, 10:08 am

Spot on, Valero.

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Post by kingraf Fri 28 Jun 2013, 10:10 am

Ali-Norton III. Norton won II, but Forman cooked him last time out, so it wouldnt change anything. But if he got III, like he deserved, then he would have been remembered better.
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 28 Jun 2013, 10:12 am

Ernie Shavers probably becomes heavyweight champion..

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Post by seanmichaels Fri 28 Jun 2013, 10:29 am

Nunn v Toney for me. Nunn well ahead on points until the 10th when he got sloppy and sparked. If Nunn had have won that fight I think he was due to fight Eubank.

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Post by Union Cane Fri 28 Jun 2013, 10:33 am

Klitschko Chisora.

Imagine that.
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Post by DoubleD22 Fri 28 Jun 2013, 10:34 am

Leonard V Duran 2,

Duran being one of my favourite fighters it pained me to hear the 'No Mas'

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Post by kingraf Fri 28 Jun 2013, 10:35 am

Norton still won the lot of those fights.
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 28 Jun 2013, 10:35 am

Duran then gets creamed off Hearns three years earlier..

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 28 Jun 2013, 10:37 am

The big one would be Burns landing a hayemaker on Johnson............

Perhaps Rowley's boys Burley and Langford become top 5 alltimers.........As Johnson makes blacks challenging for the heavy title semi-acceptable as he lost

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 28 Jun 2013, 10:38 am

I disagree with Norton winning all three.........He blew the last one......which was close..

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Post by Union Cane Fri 28 Jun 2013, 10:44 am

Union Cane wrote:Klitschko Chisora.

Imagine that.

To extrapolate that a little...

The Munich brawl becomes irrelevant, Haye stays retired.

The slave contract that Chisora signed means he must face Wlad, who goes on to become undisputed champion.

Wlad (being not very good and reliant purely on his size) is beaten by Fury.

Tyson Fury, the undefeated, undisputed Heavyweight Champion of the World.


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Post by Rowley Fri 28 Jun 2013, 10:48 am

Burns is an interesting one Truss. Had he done Johnson one has to imagine Langford would have got an opportunity somewhere between 1908 and 1912 when he was on an absolute tear. All the reports suggest Sam was a likeable guy without any of Jack’s abilities to ruffle feathers outside the ring. Suspect he would beat any of the white fighters who could have held the title during that period. Have to suspect the door would not have been shut on a lot of black fighters for so long.

As you have alluded to the picture could have been so different. Wills would surely have got his chance potentially before Dempsey, who knows if Dempsey even wins the title because him beating Wills at his best is far from a given.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 28 Jun 2013, 10:52 am

Imagine..........Burns vs Ketchel ........wow what a matchup!!!!!!!

Langford v Dempsey probably happens after all too Wink

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Post by bhb001 Fri 28 Jun 2013, 11:13 am

Union Cane wrote:
Union Cane wrote:Klitschko Chisora.

Imagine that.

To extrapolate that a little...

The Munich brawl becomes irrelevant, Haye stays retired.

The slave contract that Chisora signed means he must face Wlad, who goes on to become undisputed champion.

Wlad (being not very good and reliant purely on his size) is beaten by Fury.

Tyson Fury, the undefeated, undisputed Heavyweight Champion of the World.



But we know he will become master of the world anyway. So this is surely just timing

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Post by J.Benson II Fri 28 Jun 2013, 11:21 am

Union Cane wrote:
Union Cane wrote:Klitschko Chisora.

Imagine that.

To extrapolate that a little...

The Munich brawl becomes irrelevant, Haye stays retired.

The slave contract that Chisora signed means he must face Wlad, who goes on to become undisputed champion.

Wlad (being not very good and reliant purely on his size) is beaten by Fury.

Tyson Fury, the undefeated, undisputed Heavyweight Champion of the World.



Fury then gets beat by Harrison.

Audley - WBO, IBF, IBO, WBC, WBA and Ring Magazine Champion of the World.

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Post by Guest Fri 28 Jun 2013, 12:01 pm

Mrs Fury - looks at her pregnacy test, it says NEGATIVE and the world spins on it's axis a little smoother.

Lewis/Holyfield I - Lewis gets thought of a little better by folk not having to go through the rematch

Froch/Dirrel - see how cocky Froch is then.

Holyfield/Valuev

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Post by BlakkMamba Fri 28 Jun 2013, 1:29 pm

Joe Calzaghe - Robin Reid.

I think that early setback for calzaghe and the win for Reid would have driven both men onto greater things.

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Post by huw Fri 28 Jun 2013, 3:35 pm

Johnny Owen vs Lupe Pintor - After his death it seems that it was just a matter of time before the inevitable happened (thin skull) but it would have been great for him to have won the title before it happened.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Fri 28 Jun 2013, 3:37 pm

Mine would be Benn vs McLennan from a moral point of view. Just wish the fight had maybe been stopped earlier or maybe just fought on a different time. May have found the problem that led to his unfortunate paralysis.........

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Post by mobilemaster8 Fri 28 Jun 2013, 3:37 pm

Errrrr to be fair BlackMamba, Calzaghe did actually go on to HUGE great things irrespective of a decision turn....

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Post by seanmichaels Fri 28 Jun 2013, 3:52 pm

mobilemaster8 wrote:Mine would be Benn vs McLennan from a moral point of view. Just wish the fight had maybe been stopped earlier or maybe just fought on a different time. May have found the problem that led to his unfortunate paralysis.........

You mean Benn v Gerald McMilliband?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 28 Jun 2013, 3:52 pm

Wouldn't change Benn-Mclellan because I'd feel guilty I'd saved him when others like Paul ingle have to suffer..

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Post by seanmichaels Fri 28 Jun 2013, 3:55 pm

FFS

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 28 Jun 2013, 3:55 pm

Why FFs..........Why should a s*****g like Mclellan be saved and not Ingle ??

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Post by seanmichaels Fri 28 Jun 2013, 3:56 pm

Gerald McClellan.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 28 Jun 2013, 3:57 pm

In a pedantic mood or something..

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Post by seanmichaels Fri 28 Jun 2013, 4:00 pm

No. I'm actually having a chuckle. There was once a thread on the old 606 where his name was spelt in about 30 different ways. I don't get why his name in particular is so difficult to grasp?

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Post by Eyetoldyouso Fri 28 Jun 2013, 4:44 pm

Duran disqualified for low blow & multiple infringements against Buchanan.

Ken's future a lot rosier than it turned out.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 28 Jun 2013, 4:51 pm

Stay of execution perhaps.

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Post by Nico the gman Fri 28 Jun 2013, 5:10 pm

Barry McGuigan v Steve Cruz, felt everything went wrong for McGuigan before he climbed into the ring, wanted to pull out and was persuaded by Barney Eastwood to take the fight in 140 degree heat when not 100% fit. McGuigan deserved better.
Was a McGuigan fan, always felt he gave his all in the wrong and value for money.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Fri 28 Jun 2013, 5:12 pm

Ha! Sorry Sean only just noticed. Predictive text is the answer although being as pedantic as you are that excuse simply wont wash....

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 28 Jun 2013, 5:17 pm

Cruz-Barry is a good one..........Nelson would have picked that one !!

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Post by horizontalhero Fri 28 Jun 2013, 8:42 pm

Any of Herol Graham's world title fights .

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Post by Nico the gman Fri 28 Jun 2013, 9:15 pm

horizontalhero wrote:Any of Herol Graham's world title fights .
Yep that would be one of mine, replay the last round against Jackson and tell Bomber just to keep boxing as he did in the previous and not leave himself open.Bomber have played with the middleweights around today.

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Post by Mr Bounce Fri 28 Jun 2013, 11:24 pm

Corrie Sanders vs Wlad. Little Klitschko was allegedly being lined up to fight Lennox Lewis after disposing of Sanders and that would have been rather interesting. Shame Lewis allegedly advised Sanders exactly what he needed to do to win Whistle 

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Post by spencerclarke Sat 29 Jun 2013, 7:23 pm

Cotto v marg I surely.

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Post by milkyboy Sun 30 Jun 2013, 12:00 am

seanmichaels wrote:No. I'm actually having a chuckle. There was once a thread on the old 606 where his name was spelt in about 30 different ways. I don't get why his name in particular is so difficult to grasp?


Apparently, he only called himself g-man, because he couldn't spell McClellan himself.


Nor Gerald, most probably

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Post by Strongback Sun 30 Jun 2013, 12:35 am

Belcastro beats Naseem for Naz putting on the most distasteful ar$ehole display I have ever seen, makes it worse as it was against a vastly inferior opponent.

I would have liked to have seen Naz in with Morales, Hamed would have got schooled again because he was never in that league.  Pacquiao would have torn him apart and Marquez would have picked him apart for fun.


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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sun 30 Jun 2013, 10:18 am

Poor old Naz.........If he was Irish it would have been tasteful and Morales would be schooled..

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Post by Strongback Sun 30 Jun 2013, 10:37 am

Yawn......

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sun 30 Jun 2013, 10:39 am

You peed all over a tribute thread..Don't p**s on this one..You loser.

Stick to haye hating.


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Post by Strongback Sun 30 Jun 2013, 10:41 am

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:You peed all over a tribute thread..Don't p**s on this one..You loser.

Stick to haye hating.


You sound hot and bothered.

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