Can Virat Kohli overtake any Sachin records?
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Can Virat Kohli overtake any Sachin records?
Virat Kohli smashed his 15th ton today, that in his 109th match. He's yet to be 25, can he come close to Sachin's records in limited overs cricket especially 100s? The total number of runs for Virat to overtake is a tall order with the record being at close to 18.5k number of runs in ODIs but he could target the record for centuries i.e. 35 more to go to reach 50 and break the all time record of 49 set by the little master, even that is a tall order.
I'm not sure of test matches but Virat could also set a few records in T20s. What do other readers think?
I'm not sure of test matches but Virat could also set a few records in T20s. What do other readers think?
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Re: Can Virat Kohli overtake any Sachin records?
This reader thinks you may be taking the proverbial
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Re: Can Virat Kohli overtake any Sachin records?
I know one man who could overtake some Sachin records:
Ali, Ali Cook,
Ali Cook,
Ali, Ali Cook,
na na na
And so on.
Ali, Ali Cook,
Ali Cook,
Ali, Ali Cook,
na na na
And so on.
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Re: Can Virat Kohli overtake any Sachin records?
Duty281 wrote:I know one man who could overtake some Sachin records:
Ali, Ali Cook,
Ali Cook,
Ali, Ali Cook,
na na na
And so on.
Cook simple stands no chance, but yes Virat do and might break Sachin's One Day hundreds record, if he gonna play team like Zim, Bangla, Kenya , Ireland say 50-60 matches in his career which is very likely he will break the record with ease.
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Kohli's ODI record is fabulous. He is young. But there is a long way to go if he has to come close to Sachin's records, both in terms of runs as well as hundreds.
Alastair Cook is a fine player, but I don't see him really challenging Tendulkar's ODI records. Cook might just have a chance with some of his test records, but like Kohli, there is a fair few way to go.
Alastair Cook is a fine player, but I don't see him really challenging Tendulkar's ODI records. Cook might just have a chance with some of his test records, but like Kohli, there is a fair few way to go.
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Re: Can Virat Kohli overtake any Sachin records?
India play most of its matches against the top 8 teams so its bit unfair to say that he will break Tendy record if he play against minnows. He is a talented player. He will break the record or not is still in future. But he will surely be one of the legend in future.invisiblecoolers wrote:Duty281 wrote:I know one man who could overtake some Sachin records:
Ali, Ali Cook,
Ali Cook,
Ali, Ali Cook,
na na na
And so on.
Cook simple stands no chance, but yes Virat do and might break Sachin's One Day hundreds record, if he gonna play team like Zim, Bangla, Kenya , Ireland say 50-60 matches in his career which is very likely he will break the record with ease.
Cook is still 27 and has 25 centuries in bag so he may break centuries record.
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Re: Can Virat Kohli overtake any Sachin records?
India play most of its matches against the top 8 teams so its bit unfair to say that he will break Tendy record if he play against minnows. He is a talented player. He will break the record or not is still in future. But he will surely be one of the legend in future.invisiblecoolers wrote:Duty281 wrote:I know one man who could overtake some Sachin records:
Ali, Ali Cook,
Ali Cook,
Ali, Ali Cook,
na na na
And so on.
Cook simple stands no chance, but yes Virat do and might break Sachin's One Day hundreds record, if he gonna play team like Zim, Bangla, Kenya , Ireland say 50-60 matches in his career which is very likely he will break the record with ease.
Cook is still 27 and has 25 centuries in bag so he may break centuries record.
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Re: Can Virat Kohli overtake any Sachin records?
Lets be honest - it is going to be a long time before anyone surpasses Tendulkar's records in ODI cricket. He's been at or near the top of the batting charts for most of his 23 years in international cricket. During that time, India played a lot of ODI cricket.
OK, so far Kohli has been scoring his hundreds at a higher frequency than Sachin (just poorer than 1 in 7 matches, compared to about 1 in 9.5), but he would need to keep this up for a further 13 years (based on India playing about 20 ODIs per calendar year, which seems to be the average for both ST and VKs career). So Kohli would need to retain his form until he's into his later 30s to even get close to that record. Aggregate runs will take even longer, as the difference in runs scored per match is small, and much less different than their respective averages (Kohli's average is about 4 better than STs, but runs per match is only 0.7 higher).
Cook has no hope of getting close to Sachin's ODI records - he's only played 70-odd ODIs by the age of 28, at a rate of about 10 a year. The Test records may be a more realistic target - he's essentially half way to STs number of hundreds after 7 seasons of Tests, so keeping a similar rate means he would get to 50 centuries by the age of 35 or 36, at which point he could also be quite close to the aggregate runs record (currently on 7600, double that gets 15200, which is not far behind STs 15800). Feasible if he can maintain form and fitness, but it is definitely still a long way down the road, and a lot could happen between now and then...
OK, so far Kohli has been scoring his hundreds at a higher frequency than Sachin (just poorer than 1 in 7 matches, compared to about 1 in 9.5), but he would need to keep this up for a further 13 years (based on India playing about 20 ODIs per calendar year, which seems to be the average for both ST and VKs career). So Kohli would need to retain his form until he's into his later 30s to even get close to that record. Aggregate runs will take even longer, as the difference in runs scored per match is small, and much less different than their respective averages (Kohli's average is about 4 better than STs, but runs per match is only 0.7 higher).
Cook has no hope of getting close to Sachin's ODI records - he's only played 70-odd ODIs by the age of 28, at a rate of about 10 a year. The Test records may be a more realistic target - he's essentially half way to STs number of hundreds after 7 seasons of Tests, so keeping a similar rate means he would get to 50 centuries by the age of 35 or 36, at which point he could also be quite close to the aggregate runs record (currently on 7600, double that gets 15200, which is not far behind STs 15800). Feasible if he can maintain form and fitness, but it is definitely still a long way down the road, and a lot could happen between now and then...
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records are little more than mere incidental pieces of stats
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KP_fan wrote:records are little more than mere incidental pieces of stats
Well, yes and no.
Bradman's test batting average tells you quite a lot. Others records less so, eg where they simply reflect fact that more ODIs are played.
Dernbach's record of worst bowling economy rate in history of ODIs is quite a telling stat - cause for justified questions as to why he kept being selected for that particular form of the game.
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Corporalhumblebucket wrote:KP_fan wrote:records are little more than mere incidental pieces of stats
Well, yes and no.
Bradman's test batting average tells you quite a lot. Others records less so, eg where they simply reflect fact that more ODIs are played.
Dernbach's record of worst bowling economy rate in history of ODIs is quite a telling stat - cause for justified questions as to why he kept being selected for that particular form of the game.
there is diffrence between records and stats.
I didn't say stats are meaningless......but records largely are.
Records are stats that just occur
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