2013 Summer Transfer Window Thread....Continued.....CONTINUED

by **Crimey** Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:21 pm

First topic message reminder :

Want a couple more big deals before it closes.

Rooney
Lewandowski
Bale
Suarez

May all still be leaving.

by GSC Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:44 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Oh sorry, didnt read the name and it was someone being petulant on the football section. I will try harder in the future

Chomping at the heart strings

by Guest Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:48 am

Remy to Newcastle on loan is apparently nearing a conclusion, Ashley deciding whether or not to take on his full wages to seal the deal.

by NickisBHAFC Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:44 pm

Blackburn set to sign Tommy Spurr from Doncaster - Played a key part in helping Doncaster win the league last season.

Peterbrough sign Britt Assombalonga from Watford - A LOT of money been spent, bit risky considering he has never turned it on at this level, but Peterbrough record of signing players it bluddy amazing!

Bury sign Marlon Jackson from Bristol - Another good signing for Bury, good bet for promotion next season.

by jbeadlesbigrighthand Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:52 pm

John wrote:I do agree Arsenal have improved defensively but it's nothing to shout about. Arteta & Ramsey are woeful for the standard Arsenal should be setting and if you think they are good players then you really need help. Sagna is an embarrassment. Gibbs is injury prone and plays barely half a season, Rosicky get's off the injury table in April, looking for a new one-year deal. Mertesacker gets found out against the better strikers and has no pace for this level or top level european competition. Goalkeepers are just dire. Giroud is certainly nothing special. Gervinho needs to head for the exit door. Wilshere, great talent but needs to really exert himself on this team and stay away from injury. Diaby.......how many more months left injured? Oxlade needs to find a position, he's stagnating at Arsenal as I fear with many of our young players at top clubs. Coming off the bench and playing a dozen games does no one any good.

Walcott, Cazorla, Wilshere, Koscielny & Podolski is the nucleus. Not many. Supports the reason why one big marquee signing just doesn't fix the issues Arsenal have and won't transform them onto the next level. It should of been Suarez and another and another and another and spent about £90m like Man City have. I only envisage another trophyless season and the predictable battle for fourth with Arsenal which is a shame because the funds are there and Wenger is holding the club back. You may disagree with what I've said but it's just my view.

Are you talking about the same Arsenal that finished last season with the second best defensive record?

Your assessment of some Arsenal players is also quite strange. Arteta not good enough and Sagna an embarrassment? Strange. Gibbs may be frequently injured, but they also have Monreal. Szczeny may have had a few iffy moments last season, but he's still only 23, and since coming into the Arsenal team has generally been a positive. Mertesacker definitely is slow. However, this can be compensated for by playing alongside a quicker partner. There have been plenty of good, even great, centre backs who have lacked pace. Just look at Terry and Carragher for recent EPL examples.

I agree with you that there are areas in which Arsenal need to strengthen. They could do with a steely defensive midfielder, given that Abou Diaby is permanently broken. They also look like they could do with an additional CB with Vermaelen currently being injured. Suarez would also provide another option up front. Nonetheless, it's not like they need a whole new squad.

by GSC Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:56 pm

they could use a new CB because Vermaelen is fairly poo.

by Guest Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:28 pm

Yeah, I said they had improved but it could and should be improved further along with possibly Begovic as the new GK. Everyone agrees Sagna is dreadful, even the Arsenal fans I know, hence why you didnt offer him a new deal. Ramsey is just appalling, fades after 60 minutes and Arteta offers very little. Arsenal need three or four players and not just the one big signing. This was Wenger`s defining summer and he's failed up to now. Targets have been linked and gone elsewhere. Bringing in Suarez will not transform Arsenal into title challengers or contenders for the latter stages of Europe. Wenger had £70m to spend on assembling a team of quality and to lead him in his final years before retirement. If anything, the gap between third and fourth has widened considerably.

From your response, it appears just signing a player like Suarez is good enough this summer and that beating Spurs again is the target. No wonder the players were celebrating like they won the league when achieving the top 4. Think Wenger needs to rethink about what he actually wants to achieve.

Also, please don't tell me United are offering £35m for Cesc. What a rip off.

by GSC Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:53 pm

Cardiff will sign Caulker in a club record deal apparently. Bit surprised Spurs have let him go.

by GSC Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:00 pm

Forest are being naughty and unsettling Kelvin Wilson according to Neil Lennon.

Its almost as if hes forgotten how he signed him to begin with.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:00 pm

GSC wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Oh sorry, didnt read the name and it was someone being petulant on the football section. I will try harder in the future

Chomping at the heart strings

Blooming hypocrite!

by monty junior Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:02 pm

Luiz Gustavo close to moving to Wolfsburg, a few teams have let one slip there but then again Wolfsburg are usually willing to spend rather than p*ss about until deadline day.

by GSC Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:04 pm

My sense is Capoue is using Cardiff to flush bigger clubs into the picture.

by Guest Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:11 pm

GSC wrote:Cardiff will sign Caulker in a club record deal apparently. Bit surprised Spurs have let him go.

Selling Caulker, who has not broken through into the first team on a regular basis seems the right thing to do. If they get near £12m for him from Cardiff the that's a great deal for Spurs. They are lining up Vlad Chiriches from Bucharest as the replacement anyway and near to completing the deal.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:12 pm

Very surprised Spurs are letting Caulker go permanently. Not really sure what sense it makes letting the Dawson replacement go

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:13 pm

Thats a lot of money for Caulker, Levy strikes again!

Reportedly Diame turned down a move to Everton (http://kumb.com/story.php?id=126924 Kumb dont post rubbish) which makes me extremely happy.

by GSC Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:14 pm

Hes only 21, and Dawson will be 30 in November.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:15 pm

Kaboul I'm guessing goes above Dawson now, and they definitely need to look for better than Dawson if they want champions league.

by Guest Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:19 pm

Vertonghan, Kaboul, Dawson & Chiriches, if he signs.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:23 pm

Man this means cardiff won't be signing Leon Barnett Sad

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:25 pm

In other news, the Remy to West Ham links are apparently on the money as we have been talking to him and QPR for weeks. The problem is that Remy has no intention of going back to QPR even in a year, he doesnt want to be fighting relegations (someone should tell him thats nowhere near beyond the realms of possibility at our place or the Toon).

The whole r*** thing is a bit of a stumbling block, I presume that any club interested are going to have to do some real digging with his lawyer as to whether they really think there is a strong case against him.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:45 pm

That's a good signing for Cardiff anyways, especially if he can fulfill his potential under Malky (good CB in his day)

by GSC Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:47 pm

Barnetts going Wigan

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:58 pm

Is he? Good good. Be a decent signing for them, Championship is his level

Lugano coming over for talks with WBA apparantly

by Fernando Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:00 pm

Well the Daily Star have officially won most optimistic transfer of the year
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/329779/Arsenal-ready-to-battle-Manchester-United-for-unsettled-Real-Madrid-star-Luka-Modric?

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:29 pm

I would really, really love Modric to be back in England. If there could be a way him and Fabregas return then that would be lovely. I dont see the above happening, but would love it to be true. United should go for Modric the second they get over this Fabregas thing.

Just seen that Kieron Dyer has retired. As much as he is constantly ridiculed, I do feel for him. He came back from injury with us at one point and was immediately our best player. But it was for about two games before he broke down again.

by The Special Juan Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:41 pm

I feel for him, Hargreaves and Holden. They are 3 players who through very little fault of their own just can't stay fit. All 3 are/were decent players too which makes it more annoying. Good luck to him.

by NickisBHAFC Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:47 pm

Such a shame Dyer has retired, another name added to the long list of players who have retired Sad

Enough for one to cry!

Hit me the other day that we won't see Fergie this season, no Scholes Ping's, no Owen, no Phil Neville. But instead we have a load of unheard of foreign players Sad

by **Mat** Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:52 pm

Lugano over for talks with Albion, release clause in Kalou's contract activated and offer on the table, waiting for him to make up his mind. Talks on-going with Man City over Sinclair. Things finally getting moving.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Wed Jul 31, 2013 6:08 pm

Wonder if West Brom have said to Kalou he can play centrally

by Duty281 Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:30 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23513785

Caulker gone to Cardiff for £8 million. Wouldn't have let him go if I were AVB.

by **Mat** Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:05 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Wonder if West Brom have said to Kalou he can play centrally

Don't know about that. Clarke has been playing three out and out strikers a lot in pre-season though, so that might be how we pitched it. Do know he has been offered highest pay packet in club's history, so seems like we are pulling out all the stops.

by Guest Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:14 pm

Not sure why people are so surprised with the sale of Caulker. Yeah, he did well at Swansea but couldn't break into the Spurs side on a regular basis, even ahead of Gallas which says something. Fee is £9m which is good business again for Levy and a highly rated replacement, possibly superior to Caulker, is on the way.

Never been a huge fan of Kalou. Him & Anelka are mercenaries in my opinion, be tough act to follow will Lukaku with his physical presence now missing up top.

by GSC Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:19 pm

Unless Spurs need the 9m desperately it makes no sense. Either he's useful or loan him out and his value should only rise

by **Crimey** Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:54 pm

Still not sure why West Brom didn't go for Hooper, about the same price as Kalou with I imagine similar wages, I'd have thought they'd have been able to sign him ahead of Norwich as well. He's a much better player than Kalou, especially if they're planning to play Kalou centrally.

by The Special Juan Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:55 pm

I must be missing the bit where Kalou is a good player. I don't care what he did in France, he was worse than Torres at Chelsea and that's saying something.

I'm with what Crimey's just posted - they should have gone for Hooper. He's not worse than Kalou, not by a long shot.

by **Crimey** Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:57 pm

I like the signing of Anelka, but I think the Kalou signing is very odd and the two together certainly don't make up for no Lukaku.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:05 pm

GSC wrote:Unless Spurs need the 9m desperately it makes no sense. Either he's useful or loan him out and his value should only rise

Yeah I don't get this from Spurs's point of view. I'd be quite annoyed about this. Think Caulker could become a very good PL defender

by **Hero** Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:20 pm

I thought so initially too but stats wise he was poor last season when he was on the pitch, 9m was good business I think.

by NickisBHAFC Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:21 pm

Yeah i find this a very odd sale as well, none the less superb signing for Cardiff. Really hope Caulker does well for them and then a big club comes in for him in the future, because i have high hopes for this lad.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:30 pm

Hero wrote:I thought so initially too but stats wise he was poor last season when he was on the pitch, 9m was good business I think.

Stats can only tell you so many things.

Plus it's hardly a surprise a 21 year old is gonna have some bad games. Still got a lot of learning and developing to do.

Quite clear the kid has a lot of potential. Would've loaned him out for sure. Selling him? Bad move in my mind

by GSC Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:09 am

Fulham have nipped in front of Newcastle for Bent apparently

by GSC Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:33 am

Spurs reach an agreement for Soldado. 10m now and a series of 5m instalments.

Doesn't sound like Levy is inclined to cash in from that

by **Crimey** Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:17 am

Has anyone heard of the alleged 25% sell on clause Southampton had in Bale, which they took out for £3 million a few years ago. They must be gutted.

by GSC Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:17 am

Qpr are close to a deal for Austin

by Kay Fabe Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:22 am

GSC wrote:Forest are being naughty and unsettling Kelvin Wilson according to Neil Lennon.

Its almost as if hes forgotten how he signed him to begin with.

Obviously not naughty enough, man up and get your man Forest!!!!!!!!

Please

by GSC Thu Aug 01, 2013 1:20 pm

QPR have signed Charlie Austin.

Told you all to lump on at 7/2

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Thu Aug 01, 2013 1:20 pm

Wonder what Hull saw in his medical that QPR didn't...

by GSC Thu Aug 01, 2013 1:23 pm

Wonder what Stoke saw in Bas medical that West Ham didn't.

These 'problems' tend to disappear if the need is great enough.

Also Bruce is a toss bag for disclosing the problem to begin with

by The_Enigma Thu Aug 01, 2013 1:36 pm

Crewe close to securing Brad Inman. Been a far few championship clubs interested so if they can pull this deal off it'll be a real cope for the club. With Luke Murphy leaving, they're in need of a goal-scoring midfielder with Inman perfect for that role.

It's nice to see a footballer who's not interested in chasing a wage packet playing in Newcastle United's reserves.

by Guest Thu Aug 01, 2013 1:36 pm

@GSC is that installments deal correct? Surprised that you can do a deal in installments for a minimal fee release clause? Your not actually paying the release clause at all then are you. £10m + a series of £5m add ons doesn't actually add correctly to £26m does it. Not sure I believe that. Also Valencia need cash ASAP and have targetted Torres, so not sure how they would attempt to pay for him.

Bent & Berbatov could be a very decent partnership which should complement each other. Not sure why Kinnear didn't go and get him, one injury to Cisse and we are left with Ameobi all season.

by **Mat** Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:27 pm

Hooper was 5 million, Kalou was/is 2.6 million. Think it's fairly obvious that he's improved since his Chelsea days and to be fair, he's possibly signing for us, you don't have to be as good to play for us as you do for Chelsea.

We've played with three strikers a lot in pre-season, so he'll probably take a wide role in that trio if he signs, but with plenty of inter-changing, he'll have plenty of opportunities to go central.

And as for replacing Lukaku, unless we spent 20 million on a player, we were never going to be able to do that.

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