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Post by Strongback Thu 22 Aug 2013, 10:47 pm

Professional boxer Lee Purdy is among six people charged in connection with frauds against elderly and vulnerable people in Essex.

Mr Purdy, 26, a former British welterweight champion, of Greenstead Road, Colchester, and five others have been charged with money laundering.

All have been bailed to appear before Colchester magistrates on 10 September.

They were arrested after police executed search warrants in Epping, Colchester and Clacton on Tuesday.

Also charged are Barry Lilley, 63, unemployed, of Frinton Road, Kirby Cross; Lee Symes, 33 a builder, of Church Road, Elmstead, Susan Lilley, 57, an electricity board worker, of Ipswich Road, Holland-on-Sea, Vanessa Clement, 54, a cleaner, of Bromley Road, Ardleigh, and Derek Johnstone, 69, a retiree from Ipswich Road, Holland-on-Sea.

The arrests were made by detectives from the Kent and Essex Serious Crime Directorate, following a seven-month investigation alongside Essex County Council trading standards and adult social care.

Seven other people have already been charged with conspiracy to commit fraud by false representation between 2009 and 2013.

Police said nearly 40 people, aged 65 to 99, were thought to have been victims of fraud totalling more than £1m.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-23804724

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Post by John Bloody Wayne Thu 22 Aug 2013, 11:54 pm

Well he wasn't going to make much with his boxing skills...

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Post by Strongback Fri 23 Aug 2013, 12:32 am

He wasn't going to make it with his dieting skills.


I'm really not keen on those that steal from the elderly.

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Post by spencerclarke Fri 23 Aug 2013, 12:41 am

I seriously hope this isnt true as it's dispicable

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Post by Mr Bounce Fri 23 Aug 2013, 8:06 am

Why am I not surprsied that he comes from Greenstead...

Hope he gets everything he deserves. Nasty piece of work if true.

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Post by STC Fri 23 Aug 2013, 9:25 am

".....frauds against elderly and vulnerable people" ?

Classy.
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Post by TopHat24/7 Fri 23 Aug 2013, 10:10 am

scum

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Post by Guest Fri 23 Aug 2013, 10:12 am

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Post by Rowley Fri 23 Aug 2013, 11:27 am

Can I just put my mod hat on for a minute and remind you all of the concept of innocent until proven guilty.

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Post by 88Chris05 Fri 23 Aug 2013, 11:30 am

Rowley wrote:Can I just put my mod hat on for a minute and remind you all of the concept of innocent until proven guilty.
Lefty, liberal, hippie, Blue Peter badge wearing nonsense!
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Post by seanmichaels Fri 23 Aug 2013, 11:31 am

Look on the bright side. At least they won't have to live with the consequences of the crime for too long.

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Post by Rowley Fri 23 Aug 2013, 11:32 am

Superfly is our lawyer Chris, can you blame me for wanting to avoid getting sued.

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Post by JabMachineMK2 Fri 23 Aug 2013, 11:39 am

If he's been charged we can say what we want. If he was suspected or in for questioning then its defamation of character and we could be sued. But he's been charged. Means they have sufficient evidence to do so.

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Post by adamk Fri 23 Aug 2013, 11:41 am

From Lee's twitter:

Lee Purdy ‏@LeePurdy1 3h
A supposedly friend has been using my name. The truth will come out in the end

I hope its not true and i agree with Rowley Innocent until proven guilty.

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Post by 88Chris05 Fri 23 Aug 2013, 11:46 am

Aye, being charged isn't proof of guilt. Was disappointed all-round with Purdy's effort against Alexander, but all the same I hope there's no truth in this, as it's just one of those disgusting crimes you wish nobody was capable of.
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Post by JabMachineMK2 Fri 23 Aug 2013, 11:48 am

Not proof of guilt, but does alleviate any issues with being sued talking about it.

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Post by Guest Fri 23 Aug 2013, 11:49 am

There's generally sufficient grounds for CPS to believe they've a strong possibility of getting a prosecution though. They tend not to throw that money at cases if they're onto a loser...especially in these harsh financial times

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Post by 88Chris05 Fri 23 Aug 2013, 11:51 am

Will have to wait and see then. Ooohh, it's going to be a nail biter!
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Post by Guest Fri 23 Aug 2013, 11:53 am

Unlike his fights

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Post by Rowley Fri 23 Aug 2013, 11:55 am

Have no issues with talking about it, however am not sure calling an innocent guy (which he is until proven otherwise) scum is something we want to be seen doing.

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Post by superflyweight Fri 23 Aug 2013, 11:55 am

Rowley wrote:Superfly is our lawyer Chris, can you blame me for wanting to avoid getting sued.
Just because I'm a little drunk before noon most days does not affect my abilities.

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Post by 88Chris05 Fri 23 Aug 2013, 11:55 am

I'm just waiting for Az to show up and tell us all how great this is for British boxing and Purdy's career, as nobody likes the nice guy and we need characters and 'bad guys' to help the popularity of the sport grow.
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Post by Guest Fri 23 Aug 2013, 11:58 am

Rowley, have you considered the possibility that the torrent of abuse for Purdy is personal and merely coincidental yet just happens to have come brimming to the boil at the same time an article is posted connecting him a case of fraud involving the elderly?

I think you'll find that should be sufficient to thwart any Legal issues, but don't quote me, I make tea for a living.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Fri 23 Aug 2013, 12:04 pm

88Chris05 wrote:Aye, being charged isn't proof of guilt. Was disappointed all-round with Purdy's effort against Alexander, but all the same I hope there's no truth in this, as it's just one of those disgusting crimes you wish nobody was capable of.
A colleague was on jury duty last year, one of his fellow jurors came up with this golden nugget:

"Well he wouldn't be here if he wasn't guilty, would he?".

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Post by Guest Fri 23 Aug 2013, 12:16 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:
88Chris05 wrote:Aye, being charged isn't proof of guilt. Was disappointed all-round with Purdy's effort against Alexander, but all the same I hope there's no truth in this, as it's just one of those disgusting crimes you wish nobody was capable of.
A colleague was on jury duty last year, one of his fellow jurors came up with this golden nugget:

"Well he wouldn't be here if he wasn't guilty, would he?".

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When you consider that the CPS make the decision to charge based on their opinion that a jury of twelve right minded people would be convinced by the weight of the prosecution's argument, it's not THAT far-fetched. The jury are there to test the weight of evidence for and against and make a decision based upon that.

The issue is that at Court , witnesses fail to attend or Defence Barristers are able to introduce the element of "reasonable doubt" (which again is subject to the whims of the individual and what they deem to be "reasonable") or we end up with issues surrounding the credibility of witnesses as opposed to the actual evidence they're offering.

I've given evidence in my job on a number of occasions and the guff some of these lawyers come out with is incredible however not as incredible as the fact that some jurors fall for it.

Look at the case recently when a guy was found not guilty of child sex offences becasue his barrister inmplied that the 13 year old victim was a sexual predator herself.

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Post by RatBoy66 Fri 23 Aug 2013, 12:30 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:
88Chris05 wrote:Aye, being charged isn't proof of guilt. Was disappointed all-round with Purdy's effort against Alexander, but all the same I hope there's no truth in this, as it's just one of those disgusting crimes you wish nobody was capable of.
A colleague was on jury duty last year, one of his fellow jurors came up with this golden nugget:

"Well he wouldn't be here if he wasn't guilty, would he?".

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I did Jury service a few years ago, and having spent a fair amount of time with my fellow 11 jurors, it was enough to keep me on the straight and narrow. There are a lot of people out there with the "Well he wouldn't be here if he wasn't guilty, would he?" attitude, or maybe I was just unlucky. I had one guy after the first few hours saying "I just get the feeling he's guilty".

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Post by Strongback Fri 23 Aug 2013, 12:35 pm

Being from Essex something like this was always bound to happen.

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Fri 23 Aug 2013, 12:35 pm

88Chris05 wrote:Ooohh, it's going to be a nail biter!
Is anybody else picturing Chris saying this in a Larry Grayson style?

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Post by Guest Fri 23 Aug 2013, 12:45 pm

RatBoy66 wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:
88Chris05 wrote:Aye, being charged isn't proof of guilt. Was disappointed all-round with Purdy's effort against Alexander, but all the same I hope there's no truth in this, as it's just one of those disgusting crimes you wish nobody was capable of.
A colleague was on jury duty last year, one of his fellow jurors came up with this golden nugget:

"Well he wouldn't be here if he wasn't guilty, would he?".

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I did Jury service a few years ago, and having spent a fair amount of time with my fellow 11 jurors, it was enough to keep me on the straight and narrow. There are a lot of people out there with the "Well he wouldn't be here if he wasn't guilty, would he?" attitude, or maybe I was just unlucky. I had one guy after the first few hours saying "I just get the feeling he's guilty".  
It happens, or you get people saying, "Well he doesn't look like the sort of person to shove a glass in someone's face, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt!"

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Post by Il Gialloblu Fri 23 Aug 2013, 1:15 pm

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
88Chris05 wrote:Ooohh, it's going to be a nail biter!
Is anybody else picturing Chris saying this in a Larry Grayson style?
 
Not really, Tino, but this...
 
superflyweight wrote:Just because I'm a little drunk before noon most days does not affect my abilities.
 
... was definitely Lionel Hutz in my head.
 
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Post by seanmichaels Fri 23 Aug 2013, 1:20 pm

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
88Chris05 wrote:Ooohh, it's going to be a nail biter!
Is anybody else picturing Chris saying this in a Larry Grayson style?
I had this in my head

Spoiler:

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Post by TopHat24/7 Fri 23 Aug 2013, 2:35 pm

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TopHat24/7 wrote:
88Chris05 wrote:Aye, being charged isn't proof of guilt. Was disappointed all-round with Purdy's effort against Alexander, but all the same I hope there's no truth in this, as it's just one of those disgusting crimes you wish nobody was capable of.
A colleague was on jury duty last year, one of his fellow jurors came up with this golden nugget:

"Well he wouldn't be here if he wasn't guilty, would he?".

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Look at the case recently when a guy was found not guilty of child sex offences becasue his barrister inmplied that the 13 year old victim was a sexual predator herself.
He was found guilty though, wasn't he?

It was only in regards to sentencing that the victims alleged attitude and promiscuity were taken into account.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 23 Aug 2013, 2:37 pm

Let's just wait for the trial.......They thought they had a good case against Barry George....

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Post by TopHat24/7 Fri 23 Aug 2013, 2:38 pm

DAVE667 wrote:
RatBoy66 wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:
88Chris05 wrote:Aye, being charged isn't proof of guilt. Was disappointed all-round with Purdy's effort against Alexander, but all the same I hope there's no truth in this, as it's just one of those disgusting crimes you wish nobody was capable of.
A colleague was on jury duty last year, one of his fellow jurors came up with this golden nugget:

"Well he wouldn't be here if he wasn't guilty, would he?".

picard
I did Jury service a few years ago, and having spent a fair amount of time with my fellow 11 jurors, it was enough to keep me on the straight and narrow. There are a lot of people out there with the "Well he wouldn't be here if he wasn't guilty, would he?" attitude, or maybe I was just unlucky. I had one guy after the first few hours saying "I just get the feeling he's guilty".  
It happens, or you get people saying, "Well he doesn't look like the sort of person to shove a glass in someone's face, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt!"
Worse, my boss was in about 10 years ago and one of the jurors was a devout Muslim woman (wore everything but the face-veil) and when they did their first round robin round the table after retiring she said "I don't believe in UK justice, only Allah can judge.", just crossed her arms and refused to say another word!

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Post by Guest Fri 23 Aug 2013, 2:42 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Let's just wait for the trial.......They thought they had a good case against Barry George....
There's still far more people who committed the crime found guilty than there are gross miscarriages of justice.

And since when were you voted spokesperson for the Court of public opinion? If we want to make wildly inaccurate and inflammatory statements without availing ourselves of all the pertinent facts, who are you to tell us otherwise?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 23 Aug 2013, 2:48 pm

DAVE667 wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Let's just wait for the trial.......They thought they had a good case against Barry George....
There's still far more people who committed the crime found guilty than there are gross miscarriages of justice.

And since when were you voted spokesperson for the Court of public opinion? If we want to make wildly inaccurate and inflammatory statements without availing ourselves of all the pertinent facts, who are you to tell us otherwise?
Well why have a trial then..........If his eyes are too close together just hang him....

How pathetic..

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Post by Guest Fri 23 Aug 2013, 2:56 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Let's just wait for the trial.......They thought they had a good case against Barry George....
There's still far more people who committed the crime found guilty than there are gross miscarriages of justice.

And since when were you voted spokesperson for the Court of public opinion? If we want to make wildly inaccurate and inflammatory statements without availing ourselves of all the pertinent facts, who are you to tell us otherwise?
Well why have a trial then..........If his eyes are too close together just hang him....

How pathetic..
Grow up TRUSS, I'm clearly taking the p!$$ (got out the wrong side of the womb, this fella). Whilst the case of Barry George is a high profile one, let's not start thinking that it happens with alarming regularity (arguments that it shouldn't really happen at all are for another thread and another day). The fact is that the CPS generally have a strong basis for their reasons to prosecute yet some people seek to highlight the outlandish ones whilst the thousands and thousands of "every day" cases that are concluded satisfactorily get nary a mention.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 23 Aug 2013, 3:00 pm

1. I'm never growing up..........Life is too short...

2. I never know when you're joking........because most of your opinions are strange to say the least..

3. I don't like women that drink pints....Cool 

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Post by Guest Fri 23 Aug 2013, 3:03 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:1. I'm never growing up..........Life is too short...

2. I never know when you're joking........because most of your opinions are strange to say the least..

3. I don't like women that drink pints....Cool 
1...but not as short as you
2... humour is subjective, some appreciate it, other don't.
3...it's hardly relevant to the conversation, you strange little man!

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 23 Aug 2013, 3:04 pm

DAVE667 wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:1. I'm never growing up..........Life is too short...

2. I never know when you're joking........because most of your opinions are strange to say the least..

3. I don't like women that drink pints....Cool 
1...but not as short as you
2... humour is subjective, some appreciate it, other don't.
3...it's hardly relevant to the conversation, you strange little man!
well you can't say fairer than that..

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Post by Rowley Fri 23 Aug 2013, 3:07 pm

I don't like women drinking pints either Truss. Fortunately TSMR is a lady and would never dream of such vulgarity.

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Post by Guest Fri 23 Aug 2013, 3:10 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:1. I'm never growing up..........Life is too short...

2. I never know when you're joking........because most of your opinions are strange to say the least..

3. I don't like women that drink pints....Cool 
1...but not as short as you
2... humour is subjective, some appreciate it, other don't.
3...it's hardly relevant to the conversation, you strange little man!
well you can't say fairer than that..
Especially if you have a lisp

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Post by 88Chris05 Fri 23 Aug 2013, 3:54 pm

seanmichaels wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
88Chris05 wrote:Ooohh, it's going to be a nail biter!
Is anybody else picturing Chris saying this in a Larry Grayson style?
I had this in my head

Spoiler:
This is even more hurtful and upsetting than when Fight News on the old BBC site said that he imagined me looking like Mark Owen. Or when someone else (probably Dave) said that they could imagine me being a carbon copy of Roy Schneider's character in Jaws!
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 23 Aug 2013, 4:00 pm

Don't mention fightnews............Guy was a real pain...stalked me no end.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Fri 23 Aug 2013, 4:16 pm

88Chris05 wrote:
seanmichaels wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
88Chris05 wrote:Ooohh, it's going to be a nail biter!
Is anybody else picturing Chris saying this in a Larry Grayson style?
I had this in my head

Spoiler:
This is even more hurtful and upsetting than when Fight News on the old BBC site said that he imagined me looking like Mark Owen. Or when someone else (probably Dave) said that they could imagine me being a carbon copy of Roy Schneider's character in Jaws!
Tino and Sean clearly haven't heard you on the podcast.....

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Post by Steffan Fri 23 Aug 2013, 4:37 pm

I dont mind my birds drinking out of a pint glass

The more drunk they get the better as I can worry less about my own behaviour

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Post by Adam D Fri 23 Aug 2013, 4:49 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:
88Chris05 wrote:
seanmichaels wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
88Chris05 wrote:Ooohh, it's going to be a nail biter!
Is anybody else picturing Chris saying this in a Larry Grayson style?
I had this in my head

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This is even more hurtful and upsetting than when Fight News on the old BBC site said that he imagined me looking like Mark Owen. Or when someone else (probably Dave) said that they could imagine me being a carbon copy of Roy Schneider's character in Jaws!
Tino and Sean clearly haven't heard you on the podcast.....
You look more like Kurt Russell from The Thing

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Post by AlexHuckerby Fri 23 Aug 2013, 5:36 pm

I don't even like pints myself, especially not a woman...

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Post by ShahenshahG Fri 23 Aug 2013, 5:48 pm

AlexHuckerby wrote:I don't even like pints myself, especially not a woman...
We get that you are gay, can you stop spreading your propoganda or putin might kill you.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Fri 23 Aug 2013, 7:35 pm

I actually cannot fathom as to why people like "pints" they smell atrocious, make you fat and taste like genuine p1$$, pure disgusting.

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