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Post by Crimey Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:13 am

First topic message reminder :

Four days left of the transfer window and still Arsenal, Manchester United and Newcastle still aren't moving quickly. The Bale deal still hasn't gone through, there is still speculation that Real Madrid may go back in for Suarez and Arsenal could break the transfer record. Tottenham have also decided to sign everybody.

Available at the moment seems to be a list of the players who were the best in the world five years ago:

Kaka 
Fernando Torres
Samuel Eto'o (until yesterday)

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Post by MIG Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:48 pm

Get ready to watch a big bulky, sulky petulant kid play for your team.  He'll spend more time on his arse and complaining about stuff that actually trying to score goals.  Although to be fair to him, he did improve slightly last season so you never know.

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Post by Guest Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:50 pm

I'd rather have spent nothing, like Kinnear did, than have Anichebe. I'm sure your maths calculations are right but the stats 18 goals in 36 games for him just make me laugh. It's a terrible, horrifying signing and easily one of, if not, the worst in this window. Laugh 

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Post by Guest Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:51 pm

My hope is that with:

Anelka + Long + Vydra + Rosenberg + Berahino + Sessegnon + Sinclair + Amalfitano + Anichebe

That we play:

----------- Anelka
Sinclair - Sessegnon - Amalfitano
------ Yacob - Mulumbu

With Long, Vydra and Berahino on the bench. I never want Anichebe to play for us.

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Post by Guest Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:51 pm

John wrote:I'd rather have spent nothing, like Kinnear did, than have Anichebe. I'm sure your maths calculations are right but the stats 18 goals in 36 games for him just make me laugh. It's a terrible, horrifying signing and easily one of, if not, the worst in this window. Laugh 
Worst signing in the club's history.

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Post by Fernando Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:52 pm

Azzy Mahmood wrote:My hope is that with:

Anelka + Long + Vydra + Rosenberg + Berahino + Sessegnon + Sinclair + Amalfitano + Anichebe

That we play:

----------- Anichebe
Sinclair - Sessegnon - Amalfitano
------ Yacob - Mulumbu

With Long, Vydra and Berahino on the bench. I never want Anichebe to play for us.
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Post by Crimey Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:57 pm

At least you didn't get rid of Long, getting rid of him and bringing in Anichebe would have been even worse. Salvation can be found in that.

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Post by Fernando Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:02 pm

Carlton Cole in advanced talks to join West Ham Very Happy

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:02 pm

You're indestructible, always believe in Carlton Cole! 

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Post by Guest Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:05 pm

Just copied these four comments off another forum by everton fans-

1.Anichebe is absolutely terrible, and your club has been swindled.

2.Your groundsman is going to be a busy boy. Vic slaps the turf that much that the Hawthornes will resemble the Somme after a couple of games.

3.I think you'll see him sold to a Championship club within two years.

4.Ball to feet, turn and shoot, off target

Ball to feet, turn and shoot, defender blocks

Ball to feet, turn and shoot, keeper saves

Ball to feet, turn and shoot, scores

Ball to feet, turn and fall over

Ball to feet, defender knicks ball

Ball to feet, turn and moan

Ball to feet, thinks he's fouled looses the ball and sulks

Ball to feet and fall over

Whine

Whinge

Moan

Groan

Complain

Sulk

Fist smash grass ANICHEBE MAD!!!


And not forgetting the all time classic Anichebe toys out of the pram special... Throw arms in the air and nearly dislocate a shoulder.

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Post by Guest Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:06 pm

Long's not been the same player since Liverpool were rumoured to be after him last season. He's been woefully inept ever since, and I was gutted we couldn't recoup £5m for him.

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Post by Guest Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:07 pm

John wrote:Just copied these four comments off another forum by everton fans-

1.Anichebe is absolutely terrible, and your club has been swindled.

2.Your groundsman is going to be a busy boy. Vic slaps the turf that much that the Hawthornes will resemble the Somme after a couple of games.

3.I think you'll see him sold to a Championship club within two years.

4.Ball to feet, turn and shoot, off target

Ball to feet, turn and shoot, defender blocks

Ball to feet, turn and shoot, keeper saves

Ball to feet, turn and shoot, scores

Ball to feet, turn and fall over

Ball to feet, defender knicks ball

Ball to feet, turn and moan

Ball to feet, thinks he's fouled looses the ball and sulks

Ball to feet and fall over

Whine

Whinge

Moan

Groan

Complain

Sulk

Fist smash grass ANICHEBE MAD!!!


And not forgetting the all time classic Anichebe toys out of the pram special... Throw arms in the air and nearly dislocate a shoulder.
Post this on the EuroDivision homepage, they'll tell you that it sounds exactly like me Laugh

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Post by GSC Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:40 pm

Azzy Mahmood wrote:Long's not been the same player since Liverpool were rumoured to be after him last season. He's been woefully inept ever since, and I was gutted we couldn't recoup £5m for him.
Well take him on loan
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Post by Guest Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:44 pm

You've already pulled our Cox, trust me, you don't want our Long one as well.

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Post by Guest Tue Sep 03, 2013 4:13 pm

The Terror of Tylorstown wrote:Think it's safe to say that we haven't bid for Khedira
I was confused by this aswell, especially in those last few frantic hours but there are numerous sources stating United did indeed make a bid of around £36m for Khedira. I dread to think what was going down in the conference rooms inside Old Trafford last night. Woodward just pressing random panic buttons, sending off bids, left right & centre and then directing the representatives to Bognor instead of Bilbao to conclude a deal. I still can't get over that 'imposter' story. What a night. Laugh 

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Post by GSC Tue Sep 03, 2013 4:16 pm

Khedira said they made a bid
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Post by Guest Tue Sep 03, 2013 4:21 pm

I think it's going to be some time before United know themselves what on earth happened:

- Baines + Fellaini bids
- Overpaying on Fellaini
- Buttner / no Buttner involved
- Herrera and all the complications over tax, release clauses etc
- Herrera and the mystery fraudsters
- Khedira and the phantom bid
- Coentrao and the failed loan offer
- Fabregas shenanigans
- Why no Ozil
- Why no Willian
- Thiago shenanigans

The list goes on. What a shambles of a window that was for them.

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Post by Guest Tue Sep 03, 2013 4:27 pm

+ the embarrassing £10m bid for De Rossi that was never going to succeed

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Post by Guest Tue Sep 03, 2013 4:35 pm

I would choke on my cornflakes if Fellaini picked up a long-term injury. Just imagine, Giggs playing a 38-game season at CM Laugh

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Post by Guest Tue Sep 03, 2013 4:36 pm

i cant believe Carlton Cole is coming back Sad Sad

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Post by Guest Tue Sep 03, 2013 4:53 pm

this at least cheered me up after the farce that has been Uniteds Summer

http://mufclatest.com/open-letter-to-ed-woodward/

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:00 pm

CF wrote:i cant believe Carlton Cole is coming back SadSad
You are possibly the worst west ham fan i have ever heard.

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Post by The Special Juan Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:18 pm

I've read that letter. It started off well and then it descended into a rant which was pretty disappointing. Maybe I'm missing something major here but all the signs point towards Woodward screwing up. I think it was a bit of a poor show for both Fergie and Gill to go at the same time but never mind, what's done is done. I'm not going to call for anyone's head but as a fan I want answers as to what went wrong in the window. I suppose we'll never know.

It feels weird because as a United fan, I've never seen anything like this happen. The club's handled transfers really well for as long as I remember, I suppose the club had it coming eventually!!
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Post by Bull Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:31 pm

United made an "Indirect" bid for Wesley according to DM.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:33 pm

Bull wrote:United made an "Indirect" bid for Wesley according to DM.
How do you make an "Indirect" bid?

Do you send the bid to another club or something
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:36 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
CF wrote:i cant believe Carlton Cole is coming back SadSad
You are possibly the worst west ham fan i have ever heard.
Even I'm excited to see Carlton Cole and Joey O'Brien play in the same team again
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Post by Guest Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:48 pm

The Special Juan wrote:I've read that letter.  It started off well and then it descended into a rant which was pretty disappointing.  Maybe I'm missing something major here but all the signs point towards Woodward screwing up.  I think it was a bit of a poor show for both Fergie and Gill to go at the same time but never mind, what's done is done.  I'm not going to call for anyone's head but as a fan I want answers as to what went wrong in the window.  I suppose we'll never know.

It feels weird because as a United fan, I've never seen anything like this happen.  The club's handled transfers really well for as long as I remember,  I suppose the club had it coming eventually!!
I think every United fan pretty much sees Woodward as the problem (and rightly so). It doesn't help either that he's that close to the Glazers he's pretty much untouchable

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:01 pm

Olly wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
CF wrote:i cant believe Carlton Cole is coming back SadSad
You are possibly the worst west ham fan i have ever heard.
Even I'm excited to see Carlton Cole and Joey O'Brien play in the same team again
I just love Carlton. I struggle to think of any player in the Premier League who probably evokes the same reaction in his clubs fans. Its the same kind of love as you would have for Marley in Marley and Me. Hes a daft brush, but lovable.

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Post by The Terror of Tylorstown Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:08 pm

The bids for Baines, De Rossi and Fabregas don't necessarily bother me but it's the failure or lack of ambition to go after Thiago and Ozil when they were clearly available that bothers me. Whether that's down to Moyes or somebody else I don't know but we could have got the pair for £60mil and look at the midfield we would have had, Carrick, Thiago, Rooney and Ozil would be able to pass most teams off the park. Thiago would have been the trickier of the two as it's up in the air who he would have chosen but to not follow through on the interest for the sake of £18mil is mind blowing. As for Ozil, the moment Arsenal had a bid accepted we should have hijacked it there and then, plain and simply he would have chosen us no two ways about it but again nothing doing.

We could have ended up with two of Ozil, Thiago or Herrera quite easily but instead we have none of them but instead Fellani. I have no issues with that signing he's a good player who adds a bit of bite to the midfield but with all the commercial revenue, prize money, increased tv revenue we surely must have been able to spend £83mil.

Not only the incoming players but bizarrely i've heard Nani is set to sign a new contract and Anderson is still at the club, were money an issue we could have got players like them off the wage bill and recouped a fair chunk at the same time.

There are a lot of people accountable for this, seeming lack of communication between Moyes and Woodward as well as incompetence on the part of the latter and whoever let Gill leave at the same time as Ferguson. I have sympathy for Moyes as I believe a lot of this has been out of his control but I get the impression he could have been more vocal and persuasive with his transfer targets.

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Post by Guest Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:11 pm

Didnt Gill have to leave as his new position would be a 'conflict of interests'?

In other news United have signed a Swiss u-18 midfielder for 700k

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:23 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
Olly wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
CF wrote:i cant believe Carlton Cole is coming back SadSad
You are possibly the worst west ham fan i have ever heard.
Even I'm excited to see Carlton Cole and Joey O'Brien play in the same team again
I just love Carlton. I struggle to think of any player in the Premier League who probably evokes the same reaction in his clubs fans. Its the same kind of love as you would have for Marley in Marley and Me. Hes a daft brush, but lovable.
Wilbrahamovic had the same effect Sad 
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Post by GSC Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:31 pm

Palace sign Guedioura.

Ill miss him, good player but miscast as a DM. Hopefully Palace push him further forward
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Post by NickisBHAFC Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:38 pm

Is Guedioura really good enough for the Prem? Never been to impressed when i've seen him play.

I thought all West Ham fans loved Carlton Cole, don't really understand CF comment but ok. Im buzzing to see him back in the Premiership anyway Smile

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Post by Guest Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:46 pm

gazzyD wrote:In other news United have signed a Swiss u-18 midfielder for 700k
Yeah, Manchester United have signed Saidy Janko from Zurich. Don't think Man U fans are too bothered about that one in all honesty after what's gone on.

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Post by Hero Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:01 pm

Olly wrote:
Bull wrote:United made an "Indirect" bid for Wesley according to DM.
How do you make an "Indirect" bid?

Do you send the bid to another club or something
Knowing Ed Woodward they probably did.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:27 pm

Woodward: "We'd like to lodge a bid of £10 million for Wesley Sneijder."

CEO: "Umm Ed we're Norwich..."

Ed Woodward: "I know just doing a cheeky indirect"
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Post by Guest Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:31 pm

Cole is useless...he never scores, he reguarly gives the ball away, and i think its a pointless re-signing

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:54 pm

In our top 20 goalscorers of all time I believe. His game isnt all about goals anyway, and he suits our system far more than Maiga. Plus hes back up

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:55 pm

Hero wrote:
Olly wrote:
Bull wrote:United made an "Indirect" bid for Wesley according to DM.
How do you make an "Indirect" bid?

Do you send the bid to another club or something
Knowing Ed Woodward they probably did.
Im just assuming it was some guys in suits doing the bid for them.

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Post by Fernando Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:58 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
Hero wrote:
Olly wrote:
Bull wrote:United made an "Indirect" bid for Wesley according to DM.
How do you make an "Indirect" bid?

Do you send the bid to another club or something
Knowing Ed Woodward they probably did.
Im just assuming it was some guys in suits doing the bid for them.
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Post by GSC Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:15 pm

The thing I don't get is surely as United you'd say 'we're going to make a big statement signing early in the window for Moyes.'
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Post by Mat Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:39 pm

Is an indirect bid like an indirect tweet? You know, not mentioning the person by name.

@BigEdWoodward

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:45 pm

OZIL???

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Post by Dr Gregory House MD Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:49 pm

Champagne_Socialist wrote:OZIL???
D-Lo Brown?

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All this needs is a tag line going "that's how i roll bitches"

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Post by compelling and rich Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:09 pm

The Terror of Tylorstown wrote:The bids for Baines, De Rossi and Fabregas don't necessarily bother me but it's the failure or lack of ambition to go after Thiago and Ozil when they were clearly available that bothers me. Whether that's down to Moyes or somebody else I don't know but we could have got the pair for £60mil and look at the midfield we would have had, Carrick, Thiago, Rooney and Ozil would be able to pass most teams off the park. Thiago would have been the trickier of the two as it's up in the air who he would have chosen but to not follow through on the interest for the sake of £18mil is mind blowing. As for Ozil, the moment Arsenal had a bid accepted we should have hijacked it there and then, plain and simply he would have chosen us no two ways about it but again nothing doing.

We could have ended up with two of Ozil, Thiago or Herrera quite easily but instead we have none of them but instead Fellani. I have no issues with that signing he's a good player who adds a bit of bite to the midfield but with all the commercial revenue, prize money, increased tv revenue we surely must have been able to spend £83mil.

Not only the incoming players but bizarrely i've heard Nani is set to sign a new contract and Anderson is still at the club, were money an issue we could have got players like them off the wage bill and recouped a fair chunk at the same time.

There are a lot of people accountable for this, seeming lack of communication between Moyes and Woodward as well as incompetence on the part of the latter and whoever let Gill leave at the same time as Ferguson. I have sympathy for Moyes as I believe a lot of this has been out of his control but I get the impression he could have been more vocal and persuasive with his transfer targets.
I agree with nearly all of that, well said:clap: 

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:10 pm

Dr Gregory House MD wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:OZIL???
D-Lo Brown?
Former tag team partner of the rock

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All this needs is a tag line going "that's how i roll bitches"
But not £50m was it?

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Post by Marky Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:48 pm

Bull wrote:United made an "Indirect" bid for Wesley according to DM.
I'm not sure Wes Brown would be a worthwhile signing.

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Post by PPVxHOTTY Wed Sep 04, 2013 12:40 am

The Terror of Tylorstown wrote:The bids for Baines, De Rossi and Fabregas don't necessarily bother me but it's the failure or lack of ambition to go after Thiago and Ozil when they were clearly available that bothers me. Whether that's down to Moyes or somebody else I don't know but we could have got the pair for £60mil and look at the midfield we would have had, Carrick, Thiago, Rooney and Ozil would be able to pass most teams off the park. Thiago would have been the trickier of the two as it's up in the air who he would have chosen but to not follow through on the interest for the sake of £18mil is mind blowing. As for Ozil, the moment Arsenal had a bid accepted we should have hijacked it there and then, plain and simply he would have chosen us no two ways about it but again nothing doing.

We could have ended up with two of Ozil, Thiago or Herrera quite easily but instead we have none of them but instead Fellani. I have no issues with that signing he's a good player who adds a bit of bite to the midfield but with all the commercial revenue, prize money, increased tv revenue we surely must have been able to spend £83mil.

Not only the incoming players but bizarrely i've heard Nani is set to sign a new contract and Anderson is still at the club, were money an issue we could have got players like them off the wage bill and recouped a fair chunk at the same time.

There are a lot of people accountable for this, seeming lack of communication between Moyes and Woodward as well as incompetence on the part of the latter and whoever let Gill leave at the same time as Ferguson. I have sympathy for Moyes as I believe a lot of this has been out of his control but I get the impression he could have been more vocal and persuasive with his transfer targets.
Agree with nearly everything said, but Felliani was a panic buy, he wasn't even 1st choice. Imo Ozil is the type of player Utd need and Felliani is the type of player Arsenal could have done with.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:50 am

John wrote:
The Terror of Tylorstown wrote:Think it's safe to say that we haven't bid for Khedira
I was confused by this aswell, especially in those last few frantic hours but there are numerous sources stating United did indeed make a bid of around £36m for Khedira. I dread to think what was going down in the conference rooms inside Old Trafford last night. Woodward just pressing random panic buttons, sending off bids, left right & centre and then directing the representatives to Bognor instead of Bilbao to conclude a deal. I still can't get over that 'imposter' story. What a night. Laugh 
Question: Do you think Moyes/Woodward could have possibly looked any more incompetent over the last couple of months??

I'm really struggling to think so.

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