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Season 6 Homepage I
First topic message reminder :
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 – Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish
Links
Fixture List
Released/Championship/National League/Academy Bidding
Foreign Transfers
Budgets
European Homepage
Anglo Welsh Homepage
Welcome to Season 6 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 – Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish
POS | Aviva Premiership | PLAYED | WON | DREW | LOST | P F | P A | P D | T F | T A | TBP | LBP | POINTS | |
1 | Leicester Tigers | 7 | 6 | 0 | 1 | 182 | 157 | 25 | 21 | 13 | 1 | 1 | 26 | |
2 | London Wasps # | 7 | 6 | 0 | 1 | 168 | 153 | 15 | 16 | 13 | 0 | 1 | 24 | |
3 | Sale Sharks # | 7 | 5 | 1 | 1 | 187 | 166 | 21 | 21 | 16 | 1 | 1 | 23 | |
4 | Northampton Saints | 7 | 4 | 0 | 3 | 176 | 172 | 4 | 18 | 17 | 1 | 3 | 21 | |
5 | Harlequins # | 7 | 3 | 1 | 3 | 178 | 172 | 6 | 18 | 17 | 2 | 3 | 18 | |
6 | London Irish # | 7 | 3 | 1 | 3 | 176 | 153 | 23 | 20 | 14 | 1 | 3 | 17 | |
7 | Worcester Warriors | 7 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 162 | 170 | -8 | 14 | 16 | 0 | 4 | 16 | |
8 | Newcastle Falcons | 7 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 162 | 176 | -14 | 14 | 17 | 0 | 3 | 15 | |
9 | Gloucester | 7 | 2 | 1 | 4 | 163 | 166 | -3 | 14 | 16 | 0 | 4 | 14 | |
10 | Saracens | 7 | 2 | 0 | 5 | 141 | 162 | -21 | 13 | 16 | 1 | 4 | 13 | |
11 | Bath Rugby # | 7 | 2 | 0 | 5 | 138 | 175 | -37 | 13 | 19 | 0 | 4 | 11 | |
12 | Exeter Chiefs | 7 | 1 | 0 | 6 | 158 | 167 | -9 | 13 | 17 | 0 | 6 | 10 |
Links
Fixture List
Released/Championship/National League/Academy Bidding
Foreign Transfers
Budgets
European Homepage
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Welcome to Season 6 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.
Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.
Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1991.
Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:
- Domestic (other AP Teams)
Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.- Domestic (Championship and below)
Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Domestic Transfer Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on its own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.- Foreign
To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.
Structured Window
No cash will be used and each team will get effectively free transfers by way of a draft, which will run 12th, 11th, 10th …… 1st, 12th, 11th,10th… 1st place side. This will run from 10th June 2013 until all teams have had their two picks.
Open Window
Open transfer window, teams have unlimited bids provided they have the financial resources to cover them. Teams may only bid for one player at a time.
Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation
Compensation will be paid as follows
£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other
All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the Domestic Transfer Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Saturday. Managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.
Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result. To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box. If you are not providing a descriptive prediction you will be restricted to predicting a 1 point win either way.
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.
In addition, each team must have the following:-
At least 10 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.
At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.
All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).
Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.
If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.
Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.
Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.
Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.
£2m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.
AP finishing positions.
Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m
Heineken Cup
Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million
Amlin Challenge Cup
Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million
Anglo-Welsh Cup
Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million
If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.
Last edited by SirJohnnyEnglish on Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:15 am; edited 17 times in total
SirJohnnyEnglish- Posts : 8536
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Re: Season 6 Homepage I
Hardly played last season but is real quality.
I doubt Tuilagi will move to 12 though, he can't pass well enough
I doubt Tuilagi will move to 12 though, he can't pass well enough
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Re: Season 6 Homepage I
Tuilagi got very good hands and passing ability, so that wouldn't be the issue. It is his decision making that is the problem for the 12 shirt, when to pass or when to crash it up. He takes the latter option way too much at the moment, but when you can do what he does it isnt a surprise really.
Not sure on Lowe yet, is he in the EPS? I like him, but would want to see more of him in attack and creating. Hard to judge as his career has been so stop and start with injury. Shame Lindsay-Hague got injured pre-season reckon he would have got a lot of games this year, he's a class player at Quins - got to have one of the best academies going.
Not sure on Lowe yet, is he in the EPS? I like him, but would want to see more of him in attack and creating. Hard to judge as his career has been so stop and start with injury. Shame Lindsay-Hague got injured pre-season reckon he would have got a lot of games this year, he's a class player at Quins - got to have one of the best academies going.
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Re: Season 6 Homepage I
Lindsey Hague is the real deal by all accounts , I'v got him on the other game and he's more than likely going to be my right wing all season.
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Re: Season 6 Homepage I
Anyone see this howler from Roberts at the weekend?
http://www.rugbydump.com/2013/09/3366/jamie-roberts-poor-pass-bombs-try-after-great-break-from-jonny-sexton
http://www.rugbydump.com/2013/09/3366/jamie-roberts-poor-pass-bombs-try-after-great-break-from-jonny-sexton
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Chris, you live in a deluded world.
I love Tuilagi but I would never class his hands and passing ability as "very good", I doubt any Tigers fan would even go that far either.
I love Tuilagi but I would never class his hands and passing ability as "very good", I doubt any Tigers fan would even go that far either.
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Re: Season 6 Homepage I
Seen as DHL missed out on most of the summers transfer activity, would it possible to have first dibs on all of the released players?
Looking through the squads he's fell back quite a bit missing out on not making any foreign signings.
Looking through the squads he's fell back quite a bit missing out on not making any foreign signings.
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Re: Season 6 Homepage I
I was about to splash out in the released players!
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Re: Season 6 Homepage I
Sarries squad is well behind imo
When you have Joel Tomkins as your best 13 you know you're in trouble
When you have Joel Tomkins as your best 13 you know you're in trouble
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Sje, I think my points for and against are out as I had a 30-0 win
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i think thats fair for pooly to have dibs.
tuilagi doesnt have very good hands or passing, i never see him fizzing quality passes. he is an awesome player but his strength is his running and power.
tuilagi doesnt have very good hands or passing, i never see him fizzing quality passes. he is an awesome player but his strength is his running and power.
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Re: Season 6 Homepage I
As Fluxy pointed out hes already capped by the All Blacks Prop so could never be EQprop_lyd wrote:Evans has eq residency does that make him eq here?
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Tuilagi's hands are a lot better than people give him credit for, offloading is very good and I'm not saying he's in someone like Conrad Smith's league with passing as his decision making for when to pass and when to run isnt good and he does miss a load of chances to put people into space.
Taking some of the colts at my rugby team to a training session with him and he's got exceptionally good hands, but then you'd expect that from an international. Just hope he can sort out his decision making!
Taking some of the colts at my rugby team to a training session with him and he's got exceptionally good hands, but then you'd expect that from an international. Just hope he can sort out his decision making!
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Fixed now Prop cheers. Had a few teething problems with the table this week as Pete can attest to!prop_lyd wrote:Sje, I think my points for and against are out as I had a 30-0 win
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Re: Season 6 Homepage I
He's got decent hands Chris and an ok pass.
Hardly "very good" though, especially for an Int. Hes an outstanding carrier, the other parts of his game will develop.
If he had a very good pass and offload he'd probably be the best 13 about.
Hardly "very good" though, especially for an Int. Hes an outstanding carrier, the other parts of his game will develop.
If he had a very good pass and offload he'd probably be the best 13 about.
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He can offload quite well. But he doesn't have to pass if we use him at 12.
There are plenty of options that can be taken with him standing there, just for example the rugby league style play which has been used quite often can use Manu as a very big decoy, with the pass going behind him to the 13, and remaining backs.
Or the obvious shut it into him on the gainline and have runners of his shoulders. He could be well implemented. And his passing would develop. Much like Nonu has for the AB's, as his kicking, positional intelligence and just support play has helped since he moved from the wing.
There are plenty of options that can be taken with him standing there, just for example the rugby league style play which has been used quite often can use Manu as a very big decoy, with the pass going behind him to the 13, and remaining backs.
Or the obvious shut it into him on the gainline and have runners of his shoulders. He could be well implemented. And his passing would develop. Much like Nonu has for the AB's, as his kicking, positional intelligence and just support play has helped since he moved from the wing.
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Re: Season 6 Homepage I
Thing is the guy has got the pass, has shown it during the Lions tour, for Tigers and for England. Issue is he has tunnel vision and goes for contact or a carry without looking at who is in space. Is an issue for him and why he couldn't play 12 at the moment unless he had a distributing no10. Don't think it is a case of him not having the passing ability, its that he doesnt quite have the awareness he needs and looks for contact.
With that I'd agree he doesnt have a great passing game, but not due to his ability. Think it was during this year's 6 nations when he could have put Ashton away countless times but didnt pass it to him as went for contact instead.
With that I'd agree he doesnt have a great passing game, but not due to his ability. Think it was during this year's 6 nations when he could have put Ashton away countless times but didnt pass it to him as went for contact instead.
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Remember home sides to have their teams in by tonight please
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http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3821_8914431,00.html
Genia to be dropped??
Genia to be dropped??
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Nic White is a good player , can see McKenzies logic.
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Clermount are set to sign Alun Wyn Jones , Sean O'Brian , Jamie Heaslip and Ma'a Nonu.
But the big move is Tom Biggs to RL
But the big move is Tom Biggs to RL
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Re: Season 6 Homepage I
Apart from Nonu those signings do really strengthen an already brilliant side.
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So Toulon have officially signed Juan Smith. Might be able to get something out of the end of career.
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Apparently Toulon, Toulouse and Clermont have all bid for Flood for end of the season. Reckon he will go.
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Said he'll go after RWC15
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Wouldn't mind seeing him back in black up north. Along with Tait. I can dream...
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Flux,
What brings you to support Falcons? I'v always wondered with you been from the Isles of White.
What brings you to support Falcons? I'v always wondered with you been from the Isles of White.
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I have a relative from the area and with them being a fan, welsh and keen on rugby they influenced me from my change from the round ball game to the proper game.
It's a bit like my dad has always been a Leeds fan but his side of the family have always lived on the island, but that influence as a kid on me is why I'm Leeds United fan in the background as well.
It's a bit like my dad has always been a Leeds fan but his side of the family have always lived on the island, but that influence as a kid on me is why I'm Leeds United fan in the background as well.
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do you live on the isle of White flux?
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Yeah, all my life apart from the past three years at university.
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i havent been there in about 10 years but know a couple of people that lived there all their life but moved to england recently. nice place.
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It's nice, it will always be my home. But it can get a bit dull lol.
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Talk of him retiring if he can't come back 100% , Think it's rubbish tbh. Croft is a full athlete and will be cotton rolled back by tigers. Might be moved to row as this could affect his pace.
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Australia: Israel Folau; James O'Connor, Adam Ashley-Cooper, Christian Leali'ifano, Nick Cummins; Quade Cooper, Nic White; Ben Mowen (captain), Michael Hooper, Scott Fardy; Kane Douglas, Rob Simmons; Ben Alexander, Stephen Moore, James Slipper. Replacements: Saia Fainga'a, Scott Sio, Sekope Kepu, Sitaleki Timani, Ben McCalman, Will Genia, Matt Toomua, Tevita Kuridrani.
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You haven't much luck with blind sides do you Matt!
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Anybody got any EQ they fancy dealing on?
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I may have one or two. Will mull over and offer.
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I'm about today for some squad tweaking.
All Sarries players available for the right offer, need to make some changes.
All Sarries players available for the right offer, need to make some changes.
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Falcons make 2 changes with Will Welch and Oli Tomaszayak starting over Saull and Brookes.
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Is Brookes injured? I thought he was one of your better players on Friday night.
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No he's on the bench, He done well on Friday but Tomas is a bit more round the park and a good scrum. Cueto starts at 13 for Sale so be interesting to see if Danny Barnes can get the better of him.
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Thommo is starting at 2 as well , Big powerful hooker will make up for Brookes presence.
Powell in at 12 for injured Hueller.
Powell in at 12 for injured Hueller.
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Damn Varndell is out for 3-4 months - guess we get to see how good Bassett is now though.
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What's Varndell done?
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Bicep
Hope Bassett get his chance.
Hope Bassett get his chance.
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Tomas is prob the better scrummager, not sure if he's better round the park Driver, Brookes is a cannonball.
Our backup props weren't great last week, bringing Brookes on will help
Our backup props weren't great last week, bringing Brookes on will help
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I think Bassett was at Bedford last season??? If it's the lad I'm thinking of he didn't show much at Champ level, certainly against us anyway.
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Pooly he's made rugby championship team of the year in both last two seasons, think he's scored something like 25 tries over that time too and was a bit of a star for England u20s a season or two ago. Would say he's been best wing in the Championship.
SJE you got a good player there - he was meant to do quite well for us in pre-season, have a feeling that we will go with one of the more experienced players though as when Daly is back our back three would have an average age of 21.
SJE you got a good player there - he was meant to do quite well for us in pre-season, have a feeling that we will go with one of the more experienced players though as when Daly is back our back three would have an average age of 21.
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"Pooly he's made rugby championship team of the year in both last two seasons, think he's scored something like 25 tries over that time too and was a bit of a star for England u20s a season or two ago. Would say he's been best wing in the Championship."
He looked pretty average from what I saw, think I seen him play 3 games if he was on loan at Bedford and Cato/Shortland had him their pocket.
He's a young lad and to be fair he didn't see much of the ball. He certainly wasn't the best wing in the Champ.
He looked pretty average from what I saw, think I seen him play 3 games if he was on loan at Bedford and Cato/Shortland had him their pocket.
He's a young lad and to be fair he didn't see much of the ball. He certainly wasn't the best wing in the Champ.
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