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Squad size - 40
 
HK Guilhem Guirado (France)
HK Richard Hibbard (Wales)
HK Scott Spurling (England)
 
PR Alex Waller (England)
PR Mohamed Boughanmi (France)
PR Dylan Smith (South Africa)
PR Ben Franks (New Zealand)

PR Dan Cole (England)
PR Paul Hill (England)
PR Tomas Francis (England)
 
LK Sam Whitelock (New Zealand)
LK Ed Slater (England)
LK Geoff Parling (England)
LK Bradley Davies (Wales)
LK Patrick Tuipultou (New Zealand)
LK Marcos Kremer (Argentina) - 30/7/97

FL Akira Ioane (New Zealand)
FL James Haskell (England)
FL Guy Thompson (England)
FL Sam Underhill - 22/07/1996
FL John Hardie (Scotland)
FL Hamish Watson (Scotland)
 
N8 Dave Denton (Scotland)
N8 Nathan Hughes (England)
 
Current - 19
 
SH Baptiste Serin (France)
SH Morgan Parra (France)
SH Henry Taylor (England)
 
FH Nicolas Sanchez (Argentina)
FH Pat Lambie (South Africa)
FH Tom Taylor (New Zealand)

CE Sonny Bill Williams (New Zealand)
CE Francis Saili (New Zealand)
CE Ollie Devoto (England)
CE Rohan Janse van Rensburg (South Africa)
CE Lionel Mapoe (South Africa)
 
WG George North (Wales)
WG Nathan Earle (England)
WG Teddy Thomas (France)
WG Telusa Veainu (Tonga)
 
FB Stuart Hogg (Scotland)
FB Delon Armitage (England)
FB Aaron Morris (England)

Academy - 16
 
HK - James Fish - 15/07/96
LK - Nick Isiekwe - Saracens U18
LK - Jack Nay - 29/7/97
BS - Joe Batley - 27/06/96
BS - James Thacker - Saracens U18
OS - Ethan Waddleton - Saracens U18

SH/WG - Thomas Chapman - Can't locate but Saracens U20
SH Max Green - 13/06/96
FH Damian Willemse - 7/5/98
WG George Perkins - England U20
WG - Charlie Kingsman (Unknown. Sat his A Levels this year)
FH - Josh Sharp U18s
CE - Tyrese Johnson Fisher - 15yo
FB - Gervais Codin - 18yo
 
Saracens
Manager – Pooly
 

01. Alex Waller	09. Morgan Parra
02. Keven Mealamu	10. Morne Steyn
03. Jannie du Plessis
04. Patricio Albacete	11. Juan Imhoff
05. Victor Matfield	12. Jonathan Davies
06. Thierry Dusatoir	13. Malakai Fekitoa
07. Heinrich Brussow	14. Chris Ashton
08. Dave Denton	15. Matt Tait

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16. Jamie George 17. Max Lahiff 18. Luc Ducalcon 19. Flip van der Merwe 20. Nathan Hughes 21. Henry Taylor 22. Freddie Burns 23. Scott Williams
 
Tactics

so who are you after to get Horwill into a deal?

Not looking to offload AWJ, am looking for someone to partner with him, so can't include him in a deal.

I'm struggling to see anything if I'm being honest mate. Of that list the only one really that I would consider letting go is Steffon, and I'm struggling to see a deal.

I take it my offer for Horwill is off the table?

Afraid Murray is untradeable at the moment mate.

No probs, would still be keen to sort out something for Horwill and a back rower

What for Bradley Davies ?

Also where did you get Tomas Francis ? Is he the exeter lad ?

Make an offer mate, that way I can scope how you're valuing your lads and see where we can get to

Hi mate, sorry for the delayed response

Of that list, I would probably only consider losing Coles, Farrell and Saili at the moment

Of your guys, I'd be in for Waller, Cole, Flip, Hughes, Lambie, Foley, SBW and Fekitoa

Let me know if you can see something

Would need similar quality EQ back my way

Can we get Cole involved?

That's a big offer mate. Might have to lose one or two as I can't see where I'm going to get EQ in return there

Could do

I like Auterac, but couldn't do it without similar level of EQ back my way, sorry mate

Think we'll struggle bud, its only really Cole that I would want back my way in EQ terms and you've already said he's not for sale

Fekitoa or Mermoz?

What are you thinking then?

Throw an offer at me, let's get a starting point. Still intrigued in Horwill

Back three player and a gain elsewhere

Hughes, Lambie, Bosch, Fetikoa, Williams interest me

Think I lose out there more. If you offered me Hogg for Imhoff id say no without thinking. Williams - LLF is debatable

Change of tact, what for: Auterac, Clark and T Taylor?

Just Auterac and Taylor? What about waller?

Who can you offer mate? Would happily take Auterac if possible?

Cheers bud, will stick it on confirms

Looking at the eq hookers I think it's only really George I'd be keen on.

Guessed that, not sure what top eq could go apart from possibly trinder

Parling could go .. Waller or Ashton available?

Ben Smith not available bud. Cory Jane is probably the only back 3 player I'm willing to lose, but would need a better lock than Albacete

Jane + Parling + Wilson for

Ashton + Flip + Auterac?

Auterac, flip, Clark?

Wilson + Parling for Auterac + Flip? Extra EQ making up for flip's quality?

Possibly but not sure as we've seemed quite far apart

Hogg and Cave
For
Imhoff and Fetikoa

Auterac what for ? TOugh to gauge as he is potential but you know my views on his potential

Foley/Mermoz?

Robson is a fair deal I just need a SH more than a LH so will pass

Brown + B.James + Mafi
for
Tait + Mermoz + Shields

Not sure, testing out something with you and Matt.

Interested in the following mate:

George, Guirado, Auterac, Horwill, Denton, Clark, Taylor, Mermoz and Imhoff

I can't see any like for like in what you want mate.

Had another think and could lose Faletau in the right offer mate.

Well I'd want to include some of the lads I have mentioned to lose Faletau. 

To be more specific: George, Auterac, Horwill, Taylor, and Denton/Clark

I was thinking more:

Faletau + Flood + ? + ?
=
Denton + Taylor + George + Auterac

Well I wasn't getting any EQ in return, one of them at least for Flood in return and then perhaps drop the other for Horwill?

I was keen on bringing in one of George or Auterac, or even Clark!

Horwill for Lavanini?

If you say so mate, I was trying to be more flexible, but doesn't seem like you're too keen to do the same! 

Change of tact then, Bosch or Fekitoa?

Seperate

Only if Fekitoa was involved

Not sure Foley is of high enough quality to lose Louw for.

I'd agree - but could be nowhere in 6 months. Or best around! Difficult to lose Louw for though.

Thought long and hard.

Trying not to jut sell players cos of bad form issues in my squad. I've had a shocking run of bad form but good for the last couple of years.

If Foley was that good you'd play him

Tait + Mermoz + Foley + Mealamu
For
Brown + Maitland + James + Creevy