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Post by Imperial Ghosty Thu 12 May 2011, 6:23 pm

Having seen the flyweight tournament go untouched thought i'd chuck it to one side and get on with a more interesting division instead namely the featherweights. You know the drill top 8 of all time in the division in no particular order.

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Post by HumanWindmill Thu 12 May 2011, 6:32 pm

Pep
Saddler
Attell
Sanchez
Driscoll
Arguello
Dundee
Chocolate

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Post by WelshDevilRob Thu 12 May 2011, 6:51 pm

Azumah Nelson
Vincente Saldivar
Sandy Saddler
Eusebio Pedroza
Salvador Sanchez
Kid Chocolate
Jim Driscoll
Willie Pep

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Thu 12 May 2011, 7:10 pm

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Driscoll
Arguello
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Nelson
Attell
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Post by azania Thu 12 May 2011, 7:28 pm

Saddler
Attell
Sanchez
Saldivar
Nelson
Arguello
Chocolate
Pep

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Post by manos de piedra Thu 12 May 2011, 7:52 pm

Are superfeathers included?

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Thu 12 May 2011, 7:56 pm

Not for this one Manos, forgot to mention it include the junior featherweights though

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Post by azania Thu 12 May 2011, 7:57 pm

The Mighty Atom wrote:Not for this one Manos, forgot to mention it include the junior featherweights though

In that case I'd like to find a place for wilfredo gomes. Does it have to be 8?

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Thu 12 May 2011, 8:05 pm

Only eight Az otherwise the tourney style gets ruined

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Post by azania Thu 12 May 2011, 8:05 pm

The Mighty Atom wrote:Only eight Az otherwise the tourney style gets ruined

ok. I'll stick with my 8.

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Thu 12 May 2011, 8:06 pm

you can swap one if you wish

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Post by manos de piedra Thu 12 May 2011, 8:37 pm

Hmmm, its tricky due to fighters that have graced there and the crossovers. Getting a bit hazy on what wins for certain fighters came at superbantam/feather/superfeather.

Sanchez
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Pep
Arguello
Attell
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Morales
Gomez

Feel like Ive left so many out though.....

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Post by captain carrantuohil Thu 12 May 2011, 9:59 pm

Saddler
Pep
Sanchez
Armstrong
Miller
Kilbane
Arguello
Saldivar

I hate leaving out Nelson, Pedroza and Driscoll like hell, but there you go, I suppose.

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Post by azania Thu 12 May 2011, 10:00 pm

The Mighty Atom wrote:you can swap one if you wish

I cant see Gomes beating any of them. Not even with colour tv.

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Post by wow_junky Fri 13 May 2011, 10:03 am

1. Sanchez
2. Pep
3. Saddler
4. Armstrong
5. Pacquiao
6. Attell
7. Driscoll
8. Saldivar

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Post by 88Chris05 Fri 13 May 2011, 11:49 am

1. Pep
2. Saddler (might be a wash out if they meet in the tournament as Saddler simply had Pep's number, but you can't leave either of them out)
3. Sanchez
4. Dixon
5. Attell
6. Pedroza
7. Saldivar
8. Armstrong
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Post by Imperial Ghosty Fri 13 May 2011, 1:23 pm

Disagree with you to a degree there Chris but will leave that debate for when it becomes more relevant

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Post by Scottrf Fri 13 May 2011, 1:26 pm

Yeah there's an argument Pep was past his best for much of their fights.

Your list sounds good to me MA.

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Post by Rowley Fri 13 May 2011, 1:28 pm

HumanWindmill wrote:Pep
Saddler
Attell
Sanchez
Driscoll
Arguello
Dundee
Chocolate

I like the look of Windy's list but may be tempted to get rid of either Dundee or Arguello for Terry McGovern, could bring some fun to proceedings

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Post by manos de piedra Fri 13 May 2011, 1:36 pm

Im surprised Morales hasnt got more mentions to be honest. Think his only loss at superbantam/feather is to Barrera. Has plenty of good wins at those weights.

Just shows the quality in the division I guess.

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Post by HumanWindmill Fri 13 May 2011, 1:42 pm

rowley wrote:
HumanWindmill wrote:Pep
Saddler
Attell
Sanchez
Driscoll
Arguello
Dundee
Chocolate

I like the look of Windy's list but may be tempted to get rid of either Dundee or Arguello for Terry McGovern, could bring some fun to proceedings

I thought about McGovern, jeff, but I decided to save him ( and also George Dixon, ) for the bantams.

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Post by Rowley Fri 13 May 2011, 1:44 pm

Can see where you're coming from just liked the idea that somewhere along the line Saddler could be paired up against Terry. To be honest I was having all on fighting the temptation to put Naz in, but feared I was setting myself up for a coxy style Tunney Jones meltdown

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Post by HumanWindmill Fri 13 May 2011, 1:49 pm

rowley wrote:Can see where you're coming from just liked the idea that somewhere along the line Saddler could be paired up against Terry. To be honest I was having all on fighting the temptation to put Naz in, but feared I was setting myself up for a coxy style Tunney Jones meltdown

Yes, I believe discretion should certainly be the better part of valour, there. Tell you what, though, I never thought about Saddler v McGovern. Good Lord above, what a scrap that would have been !

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Fri 13 May 2011, 7:05 pm

Actually don't see how Saddler would win this tournament, too many guys i'd favour over him head to head.

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Post by The Galveston Giant Fri 13 May 2011, 7:16 pm

Will get mine up shortly Atom.
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Post by The Galveston Giant Fri 13 May 2011, 7:23 pm

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Eusebio Pedroza
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Post by Imperial Ghosty Fri 13 May 2011, 7:25 pm

Good to see this getting more attention which I presumed it would, voting closes midday on Sunday

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Post by Rowley Fri 13 May 2011, 8:23 pm

Atom, think you will find as you move up the weights they will become more popular, a lot of people, myself included, knowledge of the lower weights ain't great, and with the modern trend for weight jumping the lower weights tend to be stacked towards old timers. The series will lead to some cracking debates and arguments in the higher weight classes. However I implore you do not match Roy Jones with Tunney under any circumstances

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Fri 13 May 2011, 8:42 pm

I thought i'd give the lower weights a go but alas it was not to be, possibly also the two divisions where there is a clear almost undeniable number one who most would pick to win. Agreed though, my knowledge below featherweight is almost non existent and to this day I have no interest in any fights happening in the lower divisions.

Well depends how it goes Jeff, can't remember the Tunney Jones debate and fear were I around i'd have sided quite vocally with Coxy on that one, the lightweights is where it will all kick off even here we have some interesting potential match ups and I for one expect a lot of grief for one prediction i'll make.

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Fri 13 May 2011, 8:46 pm

I'm warning Azania right now if Pep and Saddler get paired together I'm re-writing history. Pep is one of my top 3 favourite fighters he will be winning.
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Post by Colonial Lion Fri 13 May 2011, 9:16 pm

May I enquire as to the nature of the list?

Is it intended to be the greatest featherweights? Or ones that offer exciting match ups? Or personal favourites?

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Post by Scottrf Fri 13 May 2011, 9:21 pm

Colonial Lion wrote:May I enquire as to the nature of the list?

Is it intended to be the greatest featherweights? Or ones that offer exciting match ups? Or personal favourites?
In the past it's been a bit of a mixture. The greatest but with a view to excluding those that have already met in the ring as much as possible, as well as trying to get a bit of variety of styles.

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Sat 14 May 2011, 11:38 am

My list was based on who I feel achieved the most in the division but can be based on whatever you want

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Post by azania Sat 14 May 2011, 11:46 am

prettyboykev wrote:I'm warning Azania right now if Pep and Saddler get paired together I'm re-writing history. Pep is one of my top 3 favourite fighters he will be winning.

Saddler would break his legs before KOing him.

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Sat 14 May 2011, 12:36 pm

azania wrote:
prettyboykev wrote:I'm warning Azania right now if Pep and Saddler get paired together I'm re-writing history. Pep is one of my top 3 favourite fighters he will be winning.

Saddler would break his legs before KOing him.

Probably tear his arms off and beat him with it instead of just ripping it out the socket.
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Post by sittingringside Sat 14 May 2011, 2:51 pm

Pep
Saddler
Pedroza
Sanchez
Morales
Kid Chocolate
Arguello
Saldivar

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Sat 14 May 2011, 7:13 pm

Top three spots are secure with any one of 6 fighters with a look in for the final 5 spaces

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Sat 14 May 2011, 7:41 pm

When's it getting started mate?
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Post by Imperial Ghosty Sun 15 May 2011, 11:08 am

Voting closes at 12 today and then i'll post the eight and we shall begin

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Post by ArchBritishchris Sun 15 May 2011, 11:39 am

1. Sanchez
2. Pep
3. Armstrong
4. Saddler
5. Olivares
6. Saldivar
7. Arguello
8. Pedroza
9. Chocolate
10. Elorde

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Sun 15 May 2011, 11:41 am

Just the 8 Chris

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Sun 15 May 2011, 12:39 pm

With the inability of some to read the eight boxers through to the featherweight tournament are in no particular order

Jim Driscoll
Vicente Saldivar
Willie Pep
Salvador Sanchez
Sandy Saddler
Abb Attell
Alexis Arguello
Kid Chocolate

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Post by sittingringside Sun 15 May 2011, 1:12 pm

A very solid looking 8 there, would have been nice to have some more modern representation.

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Sun 15 May 2011, 1:15 pm

Think it might be a trend for all them if i'm honest, there was a combined two votes for pre 1990 boxers which is very surprising considering the views of some

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