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Post by SirBurger Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:27 pm

I know that next season is still a long way off, but I would be interested in collecting together a list of those players that are out of contract this year. Perhaps if fans from each club posted on this thread we could re-edit the original post to make a complete list? Or am I the only one who cares about this sort of thing? I will get the ball rolling...

Aviva Premiership:

Exeter Chiefs: Luke Cowan Dickie, Dave Ewers, Tommy Hayes, Kai Horstmann, Tom Johnson, Dean Mumm, James Phillips, Jason Shoemark, Ceri Sweeney, Haydn Thomas, Hoani Tui, Damien Welch, Ian Whitten, Jack Yeandle, Romana Graham

Gloucester: Huia Edmonds, Rupert Harden, Darren Dawidiuk, Shaun Knight, Dan George, Lua Lokotui, Will James, Jimmy Cowan, Freddie Burns, Tim Taylor, Jonny Bentley, James Simpson-Daniel, Charlie Sharples, Henry Trinder, Tim Molenaar, Ryan Mills, Mike Tindall, Rob Cook, Martyn Thomas

Leicester Tigers: Rob Hawkins, Boris Stankovich, Ryan Bower, Louis Deacon, Thomas Waldrom, Michael Noone, Toby Flood, Adam Thompstone, Vereniki Goneva, Scott Hamilton, Gonzalo Camacho, Blaine Scully, Dan Bowden, Miles Benjamin,

London Irish: Halani Aulika, John Yapp, Gerard Ellis, Richard Palframan, Ian Gough (?), Ofisa Treviranus, Chris Hala'Ufia, Declan Danaher (likely to retire), Darren Allinson, Shane Geraghty, Tom Fowlie, Marland Yarde

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Leinster: Brian O'Driscoll, Leo Cullen, Gordon D'Arcy, Isaac Boss, Eoin Reddan, Rhys Ruddock, Dave Kearney, Shane Jennings, Jamie Heaslip, Sean O'Brien, Martin Moore, Leo Auva'a, Tom Denton, Aaron Dundon, Andrew Goodman, Darren Hudson, Noel Reid, Jack O'Connell, Michael Bent

Scarlets: Jonathan Davies, Rhys Priestland, Deacon Manu, Scott Williams

Ulster: Dan Tuohy, Chris Henry, Tom Court, Rory Best, John Afoa, Johan Muller


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Post by geoff998rugby Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:33 pm

For Ulster Tuohy, Henry, Court, Best - I expect all those to be formalties for re signing

Afoa and Muller will be gone

Pienaer is the biggy - hopeful of good news in the next week or so

There are some players not regulars as well - would have to dig.

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Post by Bathite Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:36 pm

Where do you think Afoa is off to? France?

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Post by VietGwentRevisited Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:36 pm

SirBurger wrote:
London Irish: Ian Gough (?), Marland Yarde
I thought Gough had indicated this was his last season?

There has been a lot of talk about Yarde - is there anything London Irish can do to keep hold of him, or will he be off to Bath, Leicester, Northampton or Saracens?

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Post by geoff998rugby Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:40 pm

 Afoa will be going home - his wife has told him so censored

I'm not joking !

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Post by formerly known as Sam Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:24 pm

With Tigers, I think Hawkins, Stankovitch, Bower, Deacon, Waldrom, Noone, Flood, Thompstone, Goneva, Hamilton, Camacho, Scully, Bowden, Hempedema and Benjamin are all out of contract at the end of the season (Scully sooner as he is on a three month deal). The majority of those will be renewed fairly comfortably. Bowden, Camacho, Hamilton and Waldrom are likely to go though.

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Post by ScarletSpiderman Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:40 pm

Scarlets -: Jon Davies, Priestland, Manu and Scott Williams (I believe). Not too sure about Liam Williams, Turnbull, McCusker and Gareth Davies, I believe they are either his season or next
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Post by Bathite Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:49 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:With Tigers, I think Hawkins, Stankovitch, Bower, Deacon, Waldrom, Noone, Flood, Thompstone, Goneva, Hamilton, Camacho, Scully, Bowden, Hempedema and Benjamin are all out of contract at the end of the season (Scully sooner as he is on a three month deal). The majority of those will be renewed fairly comfortably. Bowden, Camacho, Hamilton and Waldrom are likely to go though.
How can you be sure it will be 'fairly comfortable'? Flood might be subject to a French offer, no? Goneva also a possiblity?

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Post by lostinwales Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:56 pm

Bathite wrote:
formerly known as Sam wrote:With Tigers, I think Hawkins, Stankovitch, Bower, Deacon, Waldrom, Noone, Flood, Thompstone, Goneva, Hamilton, Camacho, Scully, Bowden, Hempedema and Benjamin are all out of contract at the end of the season (Scully sooner as he is on a three month deal). The majority of those will be renewed fairly comfortably. Bowden, Camacho, Hamilton and Waldrom are likely to go though.
How can you be sure it will be 'fairly comfortable'? Flood might be subject to a French offer, no? Goneva also a possiblity?
May well depend on where Flood thinks he will be in the England set up come the RWC.

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Post by stnick88 Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:00 pm

London Irish: Halani Aulika, John Yapp, Gerard Ellis, Richard Palframan, Ian Gough (?), Ofisa Treviranus, Chris Hala'Ufia, Declan Danaher (likely to retire), Darren Allinson, Shane Geraghty, Tom Fowlie, Marland Yarde

I think Aulika will stay. Yapp will go. Ellis will stay. Palframan will stay. Gough will retire. Treviranus I hope stays but might get a good offer from france. Hala'ufia not sure. Hopefully stay one more year. Danaher will retire. Allinson will go. Geraghty will stay. Fowlie will stay. Yarde will....probably go. Unfortunately. Hopefully not to Bath, Quins or Wasps.

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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:01 pm

Chiefs out of contract in summer 2014:

Tom Cowan-Dickie, 1yr
Dave Ewers, 1yr
Tommy Hayes, 1yr
Kai Horstmann, 1yr
Tom Johnson, 1yr
Dean Mumm, 1yr
James Phillips, 1yr
Jason Shoemark, 1yr
Ceri Sweeney, 1yr
Haydn Thomas, 1yr
Hoani Tui, 1yr
Damien Welch, 1yr
Ian Whitten, 1yr
Jack Yeandle, 1yr
Romana Graham, 1yr

Not many of those I'd choose to lose Shocked 

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Post by Exiledinborders Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:17 pm

lostinwales wrote:
Bathite wrote:
formerly known as Sam wrote:With Tigers, I think Hawkins, Stankovitch, Bower, Deacon, Waldrom, Noone, Flood, Thompstone, Goneva, Hamilton, Camacho, Scully, Bowden, Hempedema and Benjamin are all out of contract at the end of the season (Scully sooner as he is on a three month deal). The majority of those will be renewed fairly comfortably. Bowden, Camacho, Hamilton and Waldrom are likely to go though.
How can you be sure it will be 'fairly comfortable'? Flood might be subject to a French offer, no? Goneva also a possiblity?
May well depend on where Flood thinks he will be in the England set up come the RWC.
I would think Flood will stay until the RWC and then be off for two or three years of big money in France.

Goneva must be on the radar of top French clubs.

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Post by Jenifer McLadyboy Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:32 pm

Leinster

O'Driscoll. (Defo retiring)
Cullen (May retire)

Boss (One more year)
Reddan (One more year)
D'Arcy (One more year)

Important

Ruddock
D Kearney
Jennings
Heaslip
O'Brien
Moore

Less Important
Avua'a
Denton
Dundon
Goodman
Hudson
Reid
O'Connell
Bent

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Post by rodders Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:40 pm

Jenifer McLadyboy wrote:
O'Driscoll. (Defo retiring)
Yeah..sure....Whistle 

Jenifer McLadyboy wrote:
D'Arcy (One more year)
Aww picard
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Post by formerly known as Sam Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:52 pm

Bathite, Flood and Goneva are the why it is only fairly comfortable. Goneva turned down several big French clubs after Cockers and Wheeler flew to Tarbes to convince him to sign first time. He'll be after a pay rise though. Flood is the big uncertainty, I reckon he'll sign a one year deal then go to France post RWC.

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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:01 pm

Any news on Phil Vickery? Whistle

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Post by Bathite Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:22 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:Bathite, Flood and Goneva are the why it is only fairly comfortable. Goneva turned down several big French clubs after Cockers and Wheeler flew to Tarbes to convince him to sign first time. He'll be after a pay rise though. Flood is the big uncertainty, I reckon he'll sign a one year deal then go to France post RWC.
Fair play, that makes sense

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:39 pm

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Any news on Phil Vickery? Whistle
One more year Wink 
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Post by geoff998rugby Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:54 am

Yahoo Well you can strike Pienaer off the Ulster listed

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Post by SirBurger Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:34 pm

I've edited the original post - let me know if we get anymore.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:52 am

The details of all 24 out of contract Glaws players are here:

http://m.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/story.html?aid=19711597

For some reason my phone won't let me copy and paste the list. Included in that list is the backline; Cowan, Burns, JSD, Twelvetrees, Trinder, Sharples, Cook. That's got to be a worry.

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Post by broadlandboy Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:44 am

IIRC Twelvetrees recently re-signed for 2 years

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:34 pm

He did indeed, I forgot about that. I guess the article is a touch out of date. Still leaves a lot of potential targets for other clubs. I guess Burns and Trinder will be up next whilst some of the more expensive non key options such as Cowan will be shown the door so they can improve the tight five.

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Post by SirBurger Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:01 pm

Updated the list for Glos.

Their situation reminds me a bit of the one faced by Irish over the past few seasons - a whole host of top players coming out of contract together. Often you can have a domino effect where if one decides not to renew a lot will follow due to the perceived drop in quality of the squad for the following year. I am sure that happened with Irish in years gone by. Glos are obviously in a stronger position, especially as 12T has already re-signed. I expect there will be a lot of tempting offers for Kalamfoni and Qera to consider though, especially from France. It could also be time for Ryan Mills to move on - he is a really talented player, but he will want to be first choice sooner or later.

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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:55 pm

Would love to see Mills back down in Devon - could team up well with Sam Hill?

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Post by propdavid_london Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:34 pm

Could do with a Louis Deacon or Ian Gough coming to Quins.
Even Boris Stankovich.

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Post by munkian Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:49 pm

Can we have Brew and Clarteris back please France ? Diolch !
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Post by formerly known as Sam Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:54 pm

Deacon practically bleeds green, red and white. Born in Leicester, brought up in Syston (Leicestershire), learnt rugby at Syston and Tigers academy and has played for Tigers for over a decade. He's one of two vice captains this season as well. He might start to wind down with Slater taking over but I think he'll be a one club man.

Boris is a solid set piece loosehead, he could help sort out that Quins scrum and would be a good bench option for them.

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Post by Bathite Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:59 pm

Vesty was a 4th generation Tiger wasn't he? Olly Barkley was Bath through and through. These things happen.

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Post by propdavid_london Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:04 pm

Yeah, I know Sam - was just wishful thinking.

I'd be happy for Scott Williams to come to Quins too after recent performance.

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Post by propdavid_london Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:06 pm

I was also surprised when Moody and Hipkiss both left Tigers for Bath.
Or Dusty Hare for Saints!

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Post by Jhamer25 Thu Oct 17, 2013 6:16 pm

Scott Williams was out f contract last season, We regions all three centres in Adam warren, Gareth Maule sand Scott. So he is off that list

Out of that list the only players I would want is Vernike Goneva, Gonzalo Camacho, Dave Ewers, Thomas Waldrom. All other postions im sure we are secure for

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Post by formerly known as Sam Thu Oct 17, 2013 6:24 pm

Hipkiss and Vesty were younger and found themselves as surplus to requirements so moved on for more regular rugby. Deacon is still getting regular rugby at 32 and is vice captain. Still stranger things have happened when money is involved. It would certainly be a blow to Tigers to lose someone of his leadership, experience and set piece capabilities even with Slater coming through.

Deacon's brother has been taking some coaching courses and working with the academy whilst rehabbing so perhaps Tigers will phase Deacon into that as he starts to play less. Judging by his form so far he won't be playing that much less this season.

Considering how the media have taken to raving about the more athletic locks it's good to see the likes of Gough and Deacon, the old school enforcers, are still high on fans wishlists.

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Post by Bathite Thu Oct 17, 2013 6:27 pm

There's no substitute for the Shaws, Grewcocks, Deacons of this world!

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Post by yappysnap Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:41 pm

Bloody hell Quins could do with Simon Shaw at the moment.

Wouldn't mind Mumm from Ex either.

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Post by geoff999rugby Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:11 pm

You can take Dan Tuohy off the list - my mistake he is signed till 2015.

You could add Declan Fitzpatrick though

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:38 pm

Rob Cook has renewed with Glaws for two more years.

Quins desperately need a big unit on the second row. A real lump to give their scrum some ballast and give their lineout drive an engine.

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Post by geoff998rugby Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:35 pm

Yoiu can take Chris Henry off of the Ulster list signed till 2017

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