Cardiff Blues Season Thread 2 - Rey Lee-Lo signs long term at centre

[wales606]

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Prop
Gethin Jenkins, Adam Jones, Taufa'ao Filise, Craig Mitchell, Sam Hobbs, Scott Andrews, Thomas Davies, Dillon Lewis

Hooker
Matthew Rees, Kristian Dacey, Marc Breeze, Rhys Williams, Ethan Lewis

2nd Row
Jarrad Hoeata, Filo Paulo, Lou Reed, Chris Dicomidis, Miles Normadale

Flanker
Sam Warburton, Josh Turnbull, Macauley Cook, Ellis Jenkins, Josh Navidi, Rory Watts-Jones, Jevon Groves, Ben Roach

Eight
Manoa Vosawai, Ieaun Jones

Scrum half
Tavis Knoyle, Lloyd Williams, Lewis Jones, Tomos Williams

Fly half
Rhys Patchell, Gareth Anscombe, Gareth Davies, Simon Humberstone, Jarrod Evans, Will Thomas

Centre
Cory Allen, Dafydd Hewitt, Gavin Evans, Richard Smith, Tom Pascoe, Adam Thomas, Garyn Smith (Ray Lee-Lo)

Wing
Alex Cuthbert, George Watkins, Lucas Amorisino, Harry Davies, Owen Jenkins, Chris Knight, Tom Williams (Tom James)

Full back
Joaquin Tuculet, Dan Fish, Geraint Walsh, Aled Summerhill

[XR]

Hobbs will never be out of the team though. He's been captain this season. Really not sure what he does on the training ground but it must be amazing.

On an off note. Does anyone know why Cardiff RFC have been playing friendly fixtures against lower tier teams?

I think it's because they don't have any WP games so filling the void with the friendlies.

[Coleman]

Yeah but smashing div 3/4 teams by >60 points is kind of weird. I guess it must be great for the other teams to play vs them on the new pitch though.

[Guest]

So far the Blues have recruited very very well. Just need a flanker, 8 winger and 10 now, then they can finally start looking to compete again.

Well I think flankers we're OK, just need to get some game time, Cook and Watts-Jones looked good enough against Glasgow, decent cover for Warburton and Navidi. Out and out 8's we need though after Copelands departure, Ieuan Jones has a lot of promise though so looking forward to seeing what he can do. 10 has always been a problem area for the Blues, we're lucky we unearthed Patchell, shame that Tovey, Gareth Davies is pretty good cover though.

I'd say that our biggest problems are in the back line, after Corey Allen and Owen Williams we have no really promising centres, Hewitt is solid but nothing special but we'll see what this Tuifua is like, Gavin Evans is useless. Robinson is not as threatening as he could be and we really on Cuthbert to score tries. And of course there is no fullback cover for Halfpenny aside from Dan Fish and Chris Czekaj who are both average.

I'd hate to say it, but I'd rather we sign Henson as cover for 10, 12 and 15

[LordDowlais]

So far the Blues have recruited very very well. Just need a flanker, 8 winger and 10 now, then they can finally start looking to compete again.

Well I think flankers we're OK, just need to get some game time, Cook and Watts-Jones looked good enough against Glasgow, decent cover for Warburton and Navidi. Out and out 8's we need though after Copelands departure, Ieuan Jones has a lot of promise though so looking forward to seeing what he can do. 10 has always been a problem area for the Blues, we're lucky we unearthed Patchell, shame that Tovey, Gareth Davies is pretty good cover though.

I'd say that our biggest problems are in the back line, after Corey Allen and Owen Williams we have no really promising centres, Hewitt is solid but nothing special but we'll see what this Tuifua is like, Gavin Evans is useless. Robinson is not as threatening as he could be and we really on Cuthbert to score tries. And of course there is no fullback cover for Halfpenny aside from Dan Fish and Chris Czekaj who are both average.

I'd hate to say it, but I'd rather we sign Henson as cover for 10, 12 and 15

Yeh, all they have to do now is sign a replacement for Phil Davies.  

[XR]

Yeah but smashing div 3/4 teams by >60 points is kind of weird. I guess it must be great for the other teams to play vs them on the new pitch though.

Well i guess they pick teams that they don't always play - like bridgend athletic, glamorgan wands and today is the anniversary of St Peters beating Cardiff in the cup so that's why they're playing today.

It's probably who ever is available.

[The Saint]

Halfpenny to Toulon then.

[Coleman]

We're in trouble for next season. Dan Fish isnt up to standard. We'll need a few more signings.

[wales606]

Blues due to announce the signing of George Watkins apparently

He has a pretty good strike rate, is welsh qualified through his father and want to play for Wales

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/EXCLUSIVE-Bristol-Rugby-star-George-Watkins-set/story-20487965-detail/story.html

[bedfordwelsh]

Serious question no WUM intended but isn't the Blues academy producing they goods?

[wales606]

Serious question no WUM intended but isn't the Blues academy producing they goods?

Why because we need to sign players???

Pretty sure every team in the world signs players to strengthen positions.

We signed Copeland from the premiership 2 seasons ago - he has done a lot better job that Luke Hamilton would have done.

Blues academy graduates from the last 5 years
Sam Warburton (U20s, Wales and Lions captain)
Bradley Davies (U20s and Wales captain)
Lloyd Williams
Scott Andrews (U20s captain)
Rhys Patchell
Cory Allen
Owen Williams
Harry Robinson
Josh Navidi (U20s captain)
Kristian Dacey
MacCauley Cook (U20s captain)
Ellis Jenkins (U20s captain)
Sam Hobbs
Richard Smith?
Rhys Williams

and those are just the regular starters & internationals - there are about a dozen more who have played league rugby and a few HC players.

[wales606]

Halfpenny's departure confirmed by the Blues

http://www.cardiffblues.com/news/6764.php#.UuExbRBFDIU

[Scrumpy]

Too much too soon.

[Coleman]

If you look over the past two seasons we have turned over some very promising players. Dacey, Cook, Ellis Jenkins, O. Williams, Patchell, and Cory Allen all seem set to become regional stalwarts. Navidi, Warburton, Cuthbert, Halfpenny Brad Davies and even Rhys Gill are all through our production line, I’m sure others can name more.

Like many others we have struggled to produce good props, Andrews and Hobbs are examples of that. The concerning thing is that the Blues academy has been the most successful in regards to U-16's and U18's championship since the inception of the regional academy structure. But getting the players from that level up to regional level seems to be an issue which we really need to look at.

The past few seasons we’ve really cleaned house with regards to older players leaving and our younger players coming through. This is starting to bear fruit, but without a solid tight five and a decent game plan it’s always going to be a struggle for us to be contenders.

*Ninja'd by 606*

[sheephead]

Serious question no WUM intended but isn't the Blues academy producing they goods?

Why because we need to sign players???

Pretty sure every team in the world signs players to strengthen positions.

We signed Copeland from the premiership 2 seasons ago - he has done a lot better job that Luke Hamilton would have done.

Blues academy graduates from the last 5 years
Sam Warburton (U20s, Wales and Lions captain)
Bradley Davies (U20s and Wales captain)
Lloyd Williams
Scott Andrews (U20s captain)
Rhys Patchell
Cory Allen
Owen Williams
Harry Robinson
Josh Navidi (U20s captain)
Kristian Dacey
MacCauley Cook (U20s captain)
Ellis Jenkins (U20s captain)
Sam Hobbs
Richard Smith?
Rhys Williams

and those are just the regular starters & internationals - there are about a dozen more who have played league rugby and a few HC players.

I agree with the rest but wouldn't say Hobbs and Dacey were Academy players. You'll have the Ponty faithful here soon

[wales606]

Serious question no WUM intended but isn't the Blues academy producing they goods?

Why because we need to sign players???

Pretty sure every team in the world signs players to strengthen positions.

We signed Copeland from the premiership 2 seasons ago - he has done a lot better job that Luke Hamilton would have done.

Blues academy graduates from the last 5 years
Sam Warburton (U20s, Wales and Lions captain)
Bradley Davies (U20s and Wales captain)
Lloyd Williams
Scott Andrews (U20s captain)
Rhys Patchell
Cory Allen
Owen Williams
Harry Robinson
Josh Navidi (U20s captain)
Kristian Dacey
MacCauley Cook (U20s captain)
Ellis Jenkins (U20s captain)
Sam Hobbs
Richard Smith?
Rhys Williams

and those are just the regular starters & internationals - there are about a dozen more who have played league rugby and a few HC players.

I agree with the rest but wouldn't say Hobbs and Dacey were Academy players. You'll have the Ponty faithful here soon

Dacey started with age grade at Ponty but was a member of the Blues academy being loaned out to Ponty for a couple of seasons before he made the Blues squad - that is what the academy is for, to take the best young players from all around the region.

Not sure about Hobbs, but I thought he came through Blues academy into the squad too.

Most of the Blues academy players play for Cardiff RFC, but there have been a fair few who go to Ponty for one reason or another.

[sheephead]

A lot of Ponty fans see the players being called up to the Blues then being put to play at Cardiff RFC.

[Jhamer25]

So far the Blues have recruited very very well. Just need a flanker, 8 winger and 10 now, then they can finally start looking to compete again.

Well I think flankers we're OK, just need to get some game time, Cook and Watts-Jones looked good enough against Glasgow, decent cover for Warburton and Navidi. Out and out 8's we need though after Copelands departure, Ieuan Jones has a lot of promise though so looking forward to seeing what he can do. 10 has always been a problem area for the Blues, we're lucky we unearthed Patchell, shame that Tovey, Gareth Davies is pretty good cover though.

I'd say that our biggest problems are in the back line, after Corey Allen and Owen Williams we have no really promising centres, Hewitt is solid but nothing special but we'll see what this Tuifua is like, Gavin Evans is useless. Robinson is not as threatening as he could be and we really on Cuthbert to score tries. And of course there is no fullback cover for Halfpenny aside from Dan Fish and Chris Czekaj who are both average.

I'd hate to say it, but I'd rather we sign Henson as cover for 10, 12 and 15

Yes open side flanker is very strong at the blues, probably the best out of all the regions but there is no real good 6 there at the moment. I think a blindside flanker would be a good addition tot your team.
The problem with 10 then is what happen when one of them are out for months, like now with Patchell. Gareth Davies is so important to there team at the moment as he just can't get injured. A team needs at least 3 fly halves in the team, they don't need an expensive magical 10 because Patchell is the way forward. They need someone in the mould of Aled Thomas or Matthew Morgan jus for that extra depth in the team.
I think centre doens't look as bad now either with the Samoan signing, 4 capable centres on the team sheet there.

It's sad about Halfpenny but it was going to happen and the Blue shave already made great signings this season so should;t let this occasion bring the club down
Here is a list of signings that have been made and I think that the blues will have completed by the end of the season
Blues Signings
Craig Mitchell
Iauen Jones
Isaia Tuifua
All confirmed and has already added a lot to the team for next season

Rumours
Josh Turnball - he needs constant game time because when he does he is brilliant, he doesn't get that with us but it would be great for him and his carear
Gareth Davies - he is our best 9 and Lloyd Williams just doesn't cut it for me. If it is true (and I hope it's not) he would work brilliantly with Patchell
George Watkins - is young and his current CV is very impressing

I would also like to see Rhys gill sign with the blues because I don't know what's happened to him with the Saracens, either you or the Dragons. Now Halfpenny has left I think Dan Evans is a must for you.

Add a 10 to that list then that would be one hell of a recruitment drive

[bedfordwelsh]

Serious question no WUM intended but isn't the Blues academy producing they goods?

Why because we need to sign players???

Pretty sure every team in the world signs players to strengthen positions.

We signed Copeland from the premiership 2 seasons ago - he has done a lot better job that Luke Hamilton would have done.

Blues academy graduates from the last 5 years
Sam Warburton (U20s, Wales and Lions captain)
Bradley Davies (U20s and Wales captain)
Lloyd Williams
Scott Andrews (U20s captain)
Rhys Patchell
Cory Allen
Owen Williams
Harry Robinson
Josh Navidi (U20s captain)
Kristian Dacey
MacCauley Cook (U20s captain)
Ellis Jenkins (U20s captain)
Sam Hobbs
Richard Smith?
Rhys Williams

and those are just the regular starters & internationals - there are about a dozen more who have played league rugby and a few HC players.

606,

Fair one I didn't realise all those had come through academy, thought some had been how you say poached lol.

[wales606]

Dan Evans is going to the O's apparently

I hope the Gareth Davies rumour is true though

[Coleman]

Thomas Young has joined Glos with immediate effect. I can't see that they would have payed a release fee for him so i assume that we released him so that he could join. He was about fith choice for us, not a big loss when you consider we have Ellis Jenkins and Rory Watt-Jones there to cover.

[ScarletSpiderman]

Dan Evans is going to the O's apparently

I hope the Gareth Davies rumour is true though

Don't get me wrong but it is these region to region moves that need to be stopped. At the moment we are struggling to keep hold of our players, due to the huge money in France/England, and then we throw away what money we have in a bidding war with other welsh regions over welsh players.

That said IF Turnbull goes to the Blues I can understand it, he is a good player but competing with McCusker, Shingler, and Barclay at PYS, and has the likes of Dan Thomas, Sion Bennett and Sione Timani nipping at his heels too. Where as at CAP he would be first choice IMO. Gareth Davies on the other hand would be pretty dull to go to the Blues, he is first/second choice at PYS at the moment, and a crowd favourite. If he went to the Blues he would be first/second choice there too, so he would not be increasing his chances of game time, also with Rhodri Williams being in the Welsh squad, Cawdor gets more game time at PYS over the AIs/6Ns where as with Lloyd being dropped from Team Wales, Cawdor would still be competitng for his shirt at the Blues during the same time.

[The Saint]

I can see the reasoning behind it, as Blues are the only Region now without two decent No.9s (that is if you actually class Lloyd as a decent 9). The only lure could be money.

[Cardiff Dave]

Thomas Young has joined Glos with immediate effect. I can't see that they would have payed a release fee for him so i assume that we released him so that he could join. He was about fith choice for us, not a big loss when you consider we have Ellis Jenkins and Rory Watt-Jones there to cover.

More of a loss to Ponty I guess considering Young played the full 80 in their last two BIC games; the narrow loss to London Welsh and the thrashing of a Scottish team.

[Cardiff Dave]

Dan Evans is going to the O's apparently

I hope the Gareth Davies rumour is true though

Don't get me wrong but it is these region to region moves that need to be stopped.  At the moment we are struggling to keep hold of our players, due to the huge money in France/England, and then we throw away what money we have in a bidding war with other welsh regions over welsh players.

That said IF Turnbull goes to the Blues I can understand it, he is a good player but competing with McCusker, Shingler, and Barclay at PYS, and has the likes of Dan Thomas, Sion Bennett and Sione Timani nipping at his heels too.  Where as at CAP he would be first choice IMO.  Gareth Davies on the other hand would be pretty dull to go to the Blues, he is first/second choice at PYS at the moment, and a crowd favourite.  If he went to the Blues he would be first/second choice there too, so he would not be increasing his chances of game time, also with Rhodri Williams being in the Welsh squad, Cawdor gets more game time at PYS over the AIs/6Ns where as with Lloyd being dropped from Team Wales, Cawdor would still be competitng for his shirt at the Blues during the same time.

Is there a bidding war or is it a kind of swap shop type thing? I don't know which is why i'm asking btw.

[Cardiff Dave]

Re 1/2p.....

"The 25-year-old has full release for all Wales training camps and international matches."
I reckon this is the same for our Racing Metro contingent who all returned to France on Wednesday to prepare for their game against Toulouse tomorrow.
All of the France 6Ns squad are being rested this weekend which is a first apparently.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/25861572

[ScarletSpiderman]

Dai - I believe there is meant to be a possible trade/swap with Turnbull for Hamilton, if the rumours are to be believed, and that would make perfect sense for both regions and for both the players too. However with Gareth Davies, it would seem to be a bit of a bidding war, pretty sure we are not wanting to see him go.

[Coleman]

Isnt Luke Hamlilton from out West? I was told he was released from the Scarlets academy for being drunk and fighting or something along those line. Then he ended up at the Wanderers and the Blues acad. Strange that they would want him back if true.

[ScarletSpiderman]

Coleman, yeah he is from Pembroke Dock (I think).

[Jhamer25]

I don't rate Hamilton, I would rather Rob at 8 to be honest,

Anyway seems like Bradly to wasps is pretty much a done deal. Walesonline have given it away a bit but it has been pretty clear for a while I think. This to me is a bigger loss than Halfpenny because he brings so much to a weakened pack of forwards.
A new lock must be on the cards, you can't rely on Lou Reed ffs

[Cardiff Dave]

Dai - I believe there is meant to be a possible trade/swap with Turnbull for Hamilton, if the rumours are to be believed, and that would make perfect sense for both regions and for both the players too.  However with Gareth Davies, it would seem to be a bit of a bidding war, pretty sure we are not wanting to see him go.

I can believe that.
Trading/swapping is good, but a bidding war isn't and it grates knowing agents trouser a thick wedge each time. Maybe the regions could come up with a gentleman's agreement of sorts.

[wales606]

I don't rate Hamilton, I would rather Rob at 8 to be honest,

Anyway seems like Bradly to wasps is pretty much a done deal. Walesonline have given it away a bit but it has been pretty clear for a while I think. This to me is a bigger loss than Halfpenny because he brings so much to a weakened pack of forwards.
A new lock must be on the cards, you can't rely on Lou Reed ffs

Yep, losing Bradley Davies will be a much bigger loss

Basically cripples our forwards

[Knowsit17]

Not sure if this should be posted here or on one of the WRU vs RRW threads but Sam Warburton is the first player to sign a WRU National Contract. Article's only just hit the beeb!

No idea what this tells us about his future at CAP. Does this not mean that the WRU now has a significant stake in his future and where he plays?

[Knowsit17]

More coming in by the minute. It would appear his future at the Blues is secure, in the short term at least.

[Coleman]

They just stated on Sky that they intend to release him back to Cardiff "for free". Well, this is very interesting. Guess it's the start.

[Notch]

They just stated on Sky that they intend to release him back to Cardiff "for free". Well, this is very interesting. Guess it's the start.

We won't know if this represents a real-terms cut until they agree on a new Participation Agreement. Either they take it out of the regions funding or they add it on top of the funding they get.

I believe this represents something of a climb down for the WRU, or maybe just a sane compromise. The contract of course makes Warburton available for all Wales training and matches- but he was when under contract with the Blues anyway. The difference should be that if it's the Union that has first call on the players, its the union that should have the responsibility of paying them.

I still think things are very, very messy over in Wales. This is a very piece meal approach for a Union to take.

[Coleman]

I'd assume that the money has been taken out of the addition £1M the WRU outlined for "helping" the Regions to resign their Welsh stars. Things still are very messy. Interestingly, no news from the Blues, will they even accept him playing for them. More to come from this i expect.

[Knowsit17]

Interesting that this wasn't done in defiance of the region but seemingly with their full knowledge and co-operation. Peter Thomas gave consent before things moved forward by the sound of it. Potentially an indication of some long-awaited concession and mutual commitment?

[Standulstermen]

You would have to wonder why AWJ didn't get a similar contract if this was some kind of meeting in the middle between the regions and the WRU.

Hopefully they are able to give the likes of Jones, Williams and any other internationals similar contract ON TOP of regional funding. Getting the regions strong is the only thing that will help draw in crowds irrespective of 'product' that the Blues chaiman is wittering on about. Success will bring with it support. Look at Ulster or indeed look at the football team in south wales.

[Jhamer25]

You would have to wonder why AWJ didn't get a similar contract if this was some kind of meeting in the middle between the regions and the WRU.

Hopefully they are able to give the likes of Jones, Williams and any other internationals similar contract ON TOP of regional funding. Getting the regions strong is the only thing that will help draw in crowds irrespective of 'product' that the Blues chaiman is wittering on about. Success will bring with it support. Look at Ulster or indeed look at the football team in south wales.

They did give him a similar contract offer but he choose to go with the Ospreys instead. The real answer is why wasn't he so keen on signing with the WRU.

Is it good news or bad news, well no one can answer that really. A lot of questions need to be answered like how many times are the WRU going to releases him back to Cardiff and through what periods/ How will Cardiff reply to the matter? and Will they trust the WRU to release him?

Anyway it's a new step and is going to lead somewhere; whether that it's good or bad we don't know but it new and we will just have to see what plays out.

I'm scared now because I don't know what Scott or Rhys are going to do; I would rather they signed with us personally and see how this new deal with Sam pans out

[ScarletSpiderman]

No disrespect to him, but I think Sam has shown loyalty to Gats for captaincy with Wales and the Lions, but in doing so, I have a feeling he has just caused some tension in the six nations squad. I mean why should Tips even bother as now Sam is a union lacky Tips has no chance of selection ahead of him, as Rog ain't gonna want to see the union play Sam not to play.

[Guest]

These players have always appeared to have divided loyalties but now it is official and Warburton belongs to the Union and their priorities. Feel sorry for Cardiff ST holders.

Does this make the R12 stronger or will the Welsh crowds decline if this model is taken further?

[Guest]

Recwatcher, I think it's the way forward because of the system we've attempted to put in place. We're not longer club based (regardless of what the 'super club' critics say). 10 years we've been doing this provincial system thing, but with old style club funding (I.e. Owners and benefactors). We need to choose one or the other: either we're regional/provincial and the union calls the shots (and pays for the privilege) or we go back to club run - but then we'll need more clubs, promotion and relegation, survival of the fittest, etc. which we don't have the players or the funding for. We can't go on with the quasi model any more. We're somewhere between the English and Irish models and it just leads to conflict, blame and lack of responsibility.

If we've gone down the provincial route then we need to follow the provincial control model, and that means the union need to step up and take over. Maybe this is the start.

(p.s. I'm no union fan boy either. I just think we're in a rubbish half way house so, unless we go back to clubs which I doubt is possible, then we have to go the whole hog and cede control to the union and they need to step up and fund the whole shebang).

[Guest]

Griff, I have never felt that the irish players in their four teams are better than the Welsh four elite squads. The difference is the kiwi winning nous supplied by the coaches that were brought in compared to the Welsh indigenous coaches.

The R12 simply does not generate enough interest and if the senior players loyalty is another employer, should fans be that interested ?

[Guest]

Griff, I have never felt that the irish players in their four teams are better than the Welsh four elite squads.  The difference is the kiwi winning nous supplied by the coaches that were brought in compared to the Welsh indigenous coaches.

The R12 simply does not generate enough interest and if the senior players loyalty is another employer,  should fans be that interested ?

When you say 'interest' do you mean ticket sales, or viewing figures? What are the viewing figures of Rabo when compared to AP?
Success puts bums on seats, and, if as you say, you have the better players in the Rabo, then perhaps you're right that the regions coaching is failing to deliver. If that's true then WRU isn't your problem. It's the regions failure to sign up coaching staff that would help bring you success, and put bums on seats. Moving to another league will not solve that problem.
You say that the fans wouldn't be interested, but then other than the hardcore regions fans, they're not interested anyway. Having said that, I did read somewhere than Ospreys had increased ticket sales by around 4%.
Instead of the likes Peter Thompson whinging about lack of interest in the Rabo, maybe they can sort out the regions, bring in top coaching staff, become successful on the field, sell more tickets, increase fan base and viewing figures. In short, improve the quality of the product. Be a solution to the problem instead of being the problem, and blaming everyone else for their own incompetence.

[Guest]

Munch, I think that means you and I agree.

[Guest]

Munch,  I think that means you and I agree.

It's good to agree, although we might differ when it comes to which teams have the better players   

 

[Bluedragon]

was at bath yesterday, was amazed at the huge crowd - 11 K approx capacity for LV cup game, and the pre match buzz - everyone eating and drinking around the rec ground. Tickets apperently sold out a couple of weeks ago ! And its not really a great stadium is it with most of it open to the elements ? Well done Bath for creating an exciting and popular place to be. Regular 3pm saturday afternoon Ko got anything to do with it ? Weslh regions have a lot to learn from their success OFF the pitch.( well and on it too actually ! )

game was pretty poor mind.

[The Saint]

I don't rate Hamilton, I would rather Rob at 8 to be honest,

Anyway seems like Bradly to wasps is pretty much a done deal. Walesonline have given it away a bit but it has been pretty clear for a while I think. This to me is a bigger loss than Halfpenny because he brings so much to a weakened pack of forwards.
A new lock must be on the cards, you can't rely on Lou Reed ffs

Yep, losing Bradley Davies will be a much bigger loss

Basically cripples our forwards

You can rely on Paulo and Chris, they're both good players. Losing Davies and Halfpenny is huge though. If they were centrally contracted too then Blues would have actually been able to mix it with the big boys once again.

[Coleman]

We've signed Humberstone on a full contract. He's looked okay in the games he's played for us. Ponty influence really starting to come through.

[Jhamer25]

Been hearing that Kai Horstman has signed for the Blues or has been very highly rumored he is moving.
Any news in this because he is a good strong 8. Seeing as Waldrom has signed for Exeter and Ewer has renewed his contract he must be leaving. Anyone know anything about it?

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