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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 14 May 2011, 10:20 pm

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The Squad:

Senior Squad = 40/40
Academy Squad = 23/23

Forwards:

Front Row:
Jack McGrath [LH]
Scott Sio [LH]
Ross Harrison [LH]

Tommy Taylor [HK]
Malcolm Marx [HK]
Benjamin Kayser [HK]
Julien Marchand [HK] 10/05/1995

Rabah Slimani [TH]
Davit Zirakishvilli [TH]
Martin Moore [TH]
Atu Moli [TH] 12/06/1995
Marcus Street [TH] Eng u18s 2016/2017


Lock:
Brodie Retallick [LK]
Dave Attwood [LK]
Matt Garvey [LK/BS]
Iain Henderson [LK/BS]
Christian Day [LK]
Maro Itoje [LK/BS] 28/10/1994

Back Row:
Peter O'Mahony [BS/OS]
Steven Luatua [LK/BS/NO 8]
Issac Curtis Harris [BS/OS] 13/10/1997

Sam Cane [OS]
Sean McMahon [BS/OS]
Matt Kvesic [OS]
Lewis Ludlam [BS/OS] 08/12/1996
Will Allman [BS/OS] 03/05/1997


Duane Vermeulen [NO 8]
CJ Stander [BS/NO 8]
Lopeti Timani [LK/BS/NO 8]
Rob Leota [BS/NO 8] 03/03/1997
Max Deegan [BS/NO 8] 01/10/1996



Backs:

Scrum Half:
Danny Care [SH]
Faf de Klerk [SH]
Kieran Marmion [SH]

Fly Half:
Johnny Sexton [FH]
Bernard Foley [FH]
Quade Cooper [FH]
Bill Johnstone [FH] 07/02/1997
Curwin Bosch [FH/FB] 25/06/1997

Centre:
Reece Hodge [IC/OC/WG/FB]
André Esterhuizen [IC]
Charlie Ngatai [IC/OC]
Kyle Eastmond [IC/WG]
Jordie Barrett [FH/IC/FB] 17/02/1997
Jacob Umaga [FH/IC] Eng U18's 2015/2016

Malakai Fekitoa [IC/OC]
Seta Tamanivalu [IC/OC/WG]
Garry Ringrose [OC] 26/01/1995
Joe Marchant [OC] 16/07/1996

Back Three:
Nemani Nadolo [WG/FB]
Ruan Combrinck [WG/FB]
Semesa Rokoduguni [WG]
Keith Earls [IC/OC/WG/FB]
Simon Zebo [WG/FB]
Tevita Li [WG] 23/03/1995
Jacob Stockdale [OC/WG/FB] 03/04/1996
Rotimi Segun [OC/WG] 28/12/1996

Ratu Joe Cokanasiga [WG] 15/11/2017

Willie Le Roux [WG/FB]
Nick Abendanoon [WG/FB]
Shaun Stevenson [WG/FB] 14/11/1996
Peter Umaga Jensen [OC/WG/FB] 31/12/1997
Max Craven [FB] 22/09/2017


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Post by prop_lyd Tue 06 Sep 2011, 1:10 pm

Oh you, salvi/horstmann on loan/to buy?
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Post by prop_lyd Tue 06 Sep 2011, 1:54 pm

Think I'll take Salvi for the w.c if that's ok? You can call him back if required etc etc.
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Post by CJB Wed 07 Sep 2011, 5:10 pm

Left you a bid on world cup team, might tempt ya!

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu 08 Sep 2011, 2:15 pm

Mate, get active on the Euro League....offer for ya over there thumbsup

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Post by CJB Sat 10 Sep 2011, 9:28 pm

Cruden available?

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Post by Driver Sun 11 Sep 2011, 12:46 pm

What for Neil Beat mate?
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 13 Sep 2011, 11:47 am

No interest in Noon mate, think there's only me who rates him!

Would be interested In Care & Paice though

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 13 Sep 2011, 12:27 pm

Not necessarily for Hipkiss, fancy something for Care?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 13 Sep 2011, 2:35 pm

What English players would you be look for Johnny? Really don't want to let Pretorious go but I'd quite like the Quins halfbacks!

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue 13 Sep 2011, 2:42 pm

Just playing about with the idea of an offer...

Flood + Hines (+ Denton on loan for WC) + Fritz + Tuilagi + Crane
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Sexton + Day + JTH + Masaga + David?

Any interest there?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 13 Sep 2011, 2:47 pm

I love it when Luke plays about with big offers!!! Do me one too Very Happy

Anybody else apart form Robshaw?


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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue 13 Sep 2011, 2:49 pm

Laugh

Keeps me sane ;-)

Not sure how much bigger I could go than 4 improvements for him...

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue 13 Sep 2011, 3:01 pm

Hines is 34 and someone who I have had a lot of interest in from other clubs.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 13 Sep 2011, 3:44 pm

I'm not overly blessed on English backrow options so prob struggle. What kind of deal would you be thinking?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 13 Sep 2011, 3:54 pm

I see what you mean, although Ojo/Strettle wing combo would be pretty tasty!

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Post by stnick88 Tue 13 Sep 2011, 4:13 pm

anything at all for paice, care, hook, strettle??

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 13 Sep 2011, 6:26 pm

Robshaw + Lindsay + Pretorious

Thompson + Paice + Care

Enq....

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 13 Sep 2011, 9:35 pm

No probs fella

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Post by stnick88 Tue 13 Sep 2011, 11:15 pm

kennedy, botha, buckland, briggs, worsley, sackey, yarde, tait, garvey

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed 14 Sep 2011, 12:12 pm

Ok, leaving Sexton, Hook...?

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Post by 'Arry Wed 14 Sep 2011, 5:28 pm

Could we end it at the end of the month?

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu 15 Sep 2011, 11:30 am

Whistle

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Sep 2011, 4:02 pm

What for David fella?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Sep 2011, 4:19 pm

It was Yann lol

Happy with Lindsay tbh, just needs to stay fit and get nail his place.

What you looking for? I could do Hipkiss but need English back

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Post by Driver Sun 18 Sep 2011, 2:47 pm

Would you still do Salvi for Delve?
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Post by dammit_chris Fri 23 Sep 2011, 7:40 am

I like JTH, but you've got to remember he plays next to Nick Evans who is the second best no10 in world rugby - his experience makes the whole Quins backline look a lot better than they are.

JTH is a good club player, will go down as one of Quins fans favourite players, but his game is ever so limited, he wont ever play for England as he is too small to be the 'bash them' centre he is e.g. he'd get floored by Nonu, de Villiers etc. His handling is poor, passing poor and if you stop him running through you then you stop him being an effective player.

Evans puts him on the good lines - watch JTH play without Evans and his game drops right back down.

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 23 Sep 2011, 10:47 am

I don't do the slating of players anymore and in answering your points it would mean that I would just pick weaknesses in your team and I've been criticised for doing that before, so am not doing that anymore.

I'm allowed to have my opinion about JTH - this season he has played against poor opposition, he plays next to Nick Evans and I would look good playing outside Nick Evans. He has a limited game and will go down as a very good player for Quins but he will never be a regular England international for the reasons I outlined in my above post.

Will Greenwood said pretty much the same thing and he is Quins through and through. He's a good club player no more - take away Nick Evans and Im afraid the Quins backline unfolds in terms of quality.

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:29 am

You are completely missing my point - Nick Evans is world class, he is the best ten in world rugby after Dan Carter, he is the reason why JTH is developing, he puts him into space, he orchestrates absolutely everything. If you put Andy Goode outside Nick Evans you'd be saying he was amazing, if you put Steve Thompson outside him then he'd be a good centre too!

JTH is not big enough to be a bash them up the middle centre at the highest level and he hasnt got the handling skills to get round that fact at the highest level. He can have really good games and look very good, but then so is Chris Bell at Wasps right now.

Nick Evans makes the Quins backline look very good, for me you still have Flutey, Barkley, Allen ahead of him in the England pecking order and a batch of new young centres who will edge in front of him too - then consider that England prefer Hape and Banahana in front of him at 12 and Tindall then you see that he's 7th choice in an area that is actually very weak.

Look at how different he plays when he plays next to Clegg, its unbelievable.

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:48 am

Never rated Cruden at all. He's ok, but if he was that good he'd be in the All Blacks squad now, as behind Carter they dont really have any standouts.

Evans is still world class, look at how he pulls the strings at Quins match after match - the reason Quins win games is because they have a very aggressive backrow and a world class 10. There isnt another 10 that comes close to Evans in the AP - give him the ball and he wins games.

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 23 Sep 2011, 12:02 pm

Apologies for having an opinion that differs to you. I don't rate JTH for the reasons that I put forward, and I'm not the biggest fan of Cruden, I think that there are better players than him and that he will struggle in the winter months here, like a lot of southern hem players do - take McAlister for example when he played for Sale.

Would have quite a few 10s ahead of Cruden.

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Post by Driver Fri 23 Sep 2011, 12:48 pm

Hi Johnny

With regards to my back row not having the right balance this week could you elaborate on that? Danahar is an out and out 6 , Fearns and Skirving have been playing 8 and 7 for Bath of late.

I picked them with regards to my tactics of them being mobile forwards who could play at a high tempo.
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Post by 'Arry Sun 25 Sep 2011, 12:22 pm

Sorry for the late reply mate, yeah you can have Catt back. Is there anyone I can take on loan instead of him? You got any number eights for loan?

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Post by prop_lyd Sun 25 Sep 2011, 4:21 pm

Can I keep Salvi?!
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Post by prop_lyd Sun 25 Sep 2011, 7:06 pm

What would you want?
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Post by prop_lyd Sun 25 Sep 2011, 8:52 pm

Nice try!!
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Post by dammit_chris Thu 29 Sep 2011, 9:09 pm

You don't ever seem to play Abendandon - would you consider selling him at all?

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Post by 'Arry Sun 02 Oct 2011, 12:00 pm

Just to confirm Nathan Catt is back with you mate, his loan is ended.

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Post by 'Arry Sun 02 Oct 2011, 12:11 pm

No worries mate, what for Salvi and Powell?

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Post by 'Arry Sun 02 Oct 2011, 12:17 pm

Wouldn't be able to do that mate, Haskell is one of my key back rowers. I'm looking for some back rowers just to provide cover really.

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Post by 'Arry Sun 02 Oct 2011, 1:14 pm

Will Chambers, Bruce Reihana and Lionel Faure are all available if any of those interest you?

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Mon 10 Oct 2011, 9:26 am

SJE OK

Am interested in either extending David's loan or getting him on a permenant deal.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 10 Oct 2011, 11:00 am

SJE, what can we do for Ouedraogo mate, am prepared to put together a big deal.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 11 Oct 2011, 2:09 pm

Well where are you looking to gain mate, make a suggestion of a deal to me and we'll go from there.
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Post by dammit_chris Tue 11 Oct 2011, 8:42 pm

If I get Joel Tomkins, I will leave you to sign his brother.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 11 Oct 2011, 9:41 pm

I'm not quite sure where I'm gaining in that deal SJE???
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed 12 Oct 2011, 3:34 pm

You planning on playing Crane next week?

If not, may as well recall him/David as I am not playing David vs Gloucester.

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Post by prop_lyd Sun 16 Oct 2011, 9:17 am

Ok bud, cheers for the loan.
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Post by Driver Sun 16 Oct 2011, 4:47 pm

Shaun Knight - returns week 10
Olly Barkley - returns week 11
Kyle Eastmond - returns week 12
Nicholas Bezy - returns week 13
Steven Sykes - returns week 14
Andy Powell - returns week 15



Got some real quality English depth mate , i have this as one of the best squads in the league thumbsup
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Post by Driver Sun 16 Oct 2011, 7:20 pm

Cheers mate

The Chiefs are looking all set for the rain! Chief

May have a surprise install for Pete with selection this week Wink
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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 19 Oct 2011, 11:34 am

Hey mate, yeah you can take Shaun Perry back, cheers for the loan.
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