Edinburgh V Treviso

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25th October
19:45pm
Murrayfield

Edinburgh


15 Greig Tonks



14 Dougie Fife

13 Nick De Luca

12 Matt Scott

11 Tim Visser



10 Harry Leonard

9 Greig Laidlaw CAPTAIN



1 Alasdair Dickinson

2 Ross Ford

3 WP Nel

4 Grant Gilchrist

5 Sean Cox

6 Dimitri Basilaia

7 Cornell Du Preez

8 David Denton



Substitutes

16 Aleki Lutui

17 Wicus Blaauw

18 Geoff Cross

19 Izak van der Westhuizen

20 Roddy Grant

21 Sean Kennedy

22 Joaquin Dominguez

23 Jack Cuthbert


Treviso  

15 Brendan Williams
14 Ludovico Nitoglia
13 Luca Morisi
12 Alberto Sgarbi
11 Christian Loamanu

10 James Ambrosini
9 Fabio Semenzato

8 Manoa Vosawai
7 Alessandro Zanni
6 Dean Budd
5 Marco Fuser
4 Antonio Pavanello (capitano)
3 Lorenzo Cittadini
2 Enrico Ceccato
1 Michele Rizzo

A disposizione:

16 Franco Sbaraglini
17 Ignacio Fernandez-Rouyet
18 Pedro Di Santo
19 Valerio Bernabò
20 Robert Barbieri
21 Marco Filippucci

22 Tobias Botes
23 Luke McLean

Referee: Alain Rolland (IRFU, 59th competition game)  
Assistant Referees: Peter Allan & Stephen Hart, (both SRU)
Citing Commissioner: Douglas Hunter (SRU)

6 Played 6
3 Wins 3
3 Losses 3
0 Draws 0
12 Tries 13
10 Conversions 11
15 Penalties 13
0 Drop Goals 1
125 Points 129
25 Avg. Age 27

I've waited all week for someone else to do this thread but since no one has (all too lazy!) I've put it together.

Remarkably similar stats between the two teams, With Treviso coming out on top last season. Indeed the desperate home defeat early last season to Treviso is when alarm bells really started ringing that something was wrong with Edinburgh.

Random stat of the round - top try scorer for Edinburgh in this fixture? Kyle Traynor!

I think that if the MFL can find an inside centre then they could win comfortably tonight. I'm thinking Cuthbert for the first 60, to wear them out with his mesmeric jinking sidesteps and then bring on Cuthbert to dart like a baggy up a burn!

jimbopip wrote:I think that if the MFL can find an inside centre then they could win comfortably tonight. I'm thinking Cuthbert for the first 60, to wear them out with his mesmeric jinking sidesteps and then bring on Cuthbert to dart like a baggy up a burn!  

Didn't realise big Jack had a brother!?  

Also, what's wrong with Matt Scott?

Heard Visser's gone off injured?
You at the game RDW, did it look serious?

Nah I'm not there - sounds serious. Ankle

RDW_Scotland wrote:Also, what's wrong with Matt Scott?

Does he play 12 then? Nobody mentioned that.

Phew, sounded close at the end there!

Great to get the win - will look forward to hearing from those at the game. Du preez featured prominently in the Twitter feed

Edinburgh win while Glasgow lose???

It's the twilight zone

Edinburgh win a game - again. Its the zombie apocalypse

glad to see Edinburgh winning tonight, was it a good performance?

First half was all Embra, Treviso had one line out in our half for 40 mins, Basil, Dents and Du Preez where on fire, Cox is back to his old self winding up the opposition, De Luca motm, Scott had a few fumbles and missed a pass for a 3 on 1 not his best night but made up for it with the chase from Laidlaws box kick down field with De Luca. Scrum was 50/50 a few wayward line outs, Fife and Cuthbert done well on the wings Cuthbert even hitting a few rucks.
Someone has told Tonks to stop kicking the ball away so much and it worked he looks good with ball in hand so hope he keeps it up. We should have had at least another try with the possession and territory we had.

2nd half Treviso just played better and with more pace although didn't like it that they continued to play there line out penalty when Dents was on the ground with major cramp unsporting.

Visser got taken off on the golf buggy with the mask on his face looks like its ankle injury.

Cheers for the write up.
Sad to hear about Visser, fingers crossed there.

As for Scott blowing a 3-1 well what do we expect playing a guy like him out of position at 12...

Just pleased with the result. Hopefully we can have a result and a good performance this coming Friday against Zebre. I'll be at that game so I fear the worst!!

Big blow for us to lose Visser. Not sure Cuthbert, Jones or Walker can quite fill that void. Shame James Farndale out of the picture.

Herald report said that His Timness didn't even go to the hospital with his ankle, indicating (a) it probably isn't that serious and (b) Tim isn't really the one for Buck Shelford-injury heroics and might indeed be a large woman's shirt.

Well done to Edinburgh. Baby steps but very good teams are going to lose to Treviso this season at home and we didn't. Looks like young Du Preez is finally the answer at 6 which is a blessed relief.

Didn't manage to catch the game but will look for the highlights - the Herald report said that the score very much flattered Treviso.

I'm sure they said they had to wait for the swelling to go down before being able to assess him more, so perhaps there was no need to go to the hospital immediately.

Well hopefully we can beat Zebre at Murrayfield without Visser giving him a week off. I suspect Cuthbert is the likely replacement, given his recent performances have greatly exceeded our low expectations.

Even thought it's Treviso and Zebre, it would be fantastic to win two games on the bounce in the Rabo.

Just a shame we then lose all momentum with the international break!

On the other hand though it'll be good to be able the give the new signings a few weeks to bed in and get uo to speed with their conditioning before the next run of games

Agree with that, there are a few signings yet to surface so I think a few weeks of sessions with Omar and Solomons cracking the whip and we'll hopefully have those two new back row players plus Grayson Hart whipped into shape, and Hilterbrand and Blaauw ready to play 80 minutes. There's also that new bloke at 12 (Matt Scott's jersey) who we haven't yet had sight of.

Next week is game 9 of Grandpappy's season - he said that it would take at least 9 games for the players to be working well to his system. Looks like he's right again. Would be nice to go into the break on the back of consecutive wins.

Why haven't we seen Grayson Hart yet? Is he injured? My Kiwi mates really rate him.

Think Hart was broken for a while, but played for Gala this weekend. Don't know how he got on.

Gala hammered Currie 48-16.

Hart got yellow carded for a silly push that connected with a Gala player's face.

This was the first Rabo game I've been to for a while. A bit frustrating to watch overall. If both teams were more clinical it would have been a high scoring match.

Edinburgh should have been out of sight but players took wrong options and made mistakes to squander a number of good chances - Laidlaw, Leonard, Scott and De Luca all guilty. A blow to lose Visser and Basilaia who seems to be a good physical presence with a good rugby braind too judging by how he did the right thing to put Tonks in the corner.

Cuthbert appears to have improved a lot so could yet turn out to be a really useful player. Fif seems to be getting better but needs to work on competing for the ball in the air. He never looked as if he was going to take one all night despite being in positions to do so. Not sure if Scott is fully fit yet as he seemed to fade out of the game. Line out struggled which was a surprise after what I heard about the preformance against Munster. Perhaps some credit has to go to Treviso there.

As for Treviso, they didn't really threaten for the first hour and only really looked dangerous if they could get their maul going. A bit of a different story after McLean came on though, a class player. Cut through Edinburgh once and almost did it again at the death. They have some dangerous players and much like Edinburgh aren't far away from some big performaces and results in the league.

I'm not sure how both teams will fare overall though as they will need some luck with injuries given their lack of depth in certain positions.

Forgot to mention Rolland. Mostly a good performance but a couple of interesting decisions really swung the momentum in Treviso's favour and nearly won them the game.

First was around the hour mark, in the middle a ruck formed where and Edinburgh player drove a Treviso one off the ball then a Treviso player stepped in to pick up the ball and the Edinburgh player on the floor was penalised for holding on I think (or next man in was off his feet). Either way, the Treviso player trying to pick the ball up was never behind the back foot of the ruck so should have been given as offside. From the penalty Treviso gained the field position and applied pressure for the McLean try. Should have been an Edinburgh attacking throw deep in the Treviso half.

Second was the final scrum which went down a few times. Finally, when it was settled it seemed to surge quickly with Treviso going backwards. Nel seemed to be penalised for losing the bind but it was very odd how rapidly the Treviso scrum retreated, as if they had gone passive and the sudden shift caused the scrum to collapse. I think this is covered by law 20.8(g) where front rows can't pull an opponent or do anything else that might cause a collapse - as moving backwards rapidly is likely to do. This used to be used by at least one Welsh prop a few years ago (John Davies perhaps) who would go passive and con the ref into awarding penalties.