Unpopular Wrestling Opinions?

do you have any unpopular wrestling opinions , for example like " i think John Cena is the greatest wrestler of all time" that could be viewed as unpopular within the wrestling community.

In terms of the IWC:

- Daniel Bryan is a B+ player
- Dolph Ziggler is no more than a midcarder
- Damien Sandow shouldn't have won the WHC from John Cena
- Dean Ambrose won't be the biggest success out of the Shield
- In "burying" the roster Triple H is doing his job because he is ensuring he gets heat from both marks and the IWC
- Wade Barrett is overrated

Chris Benoit was actually reasonably good in the ring

DrDeath wrote:Chris Benoit was actually reasonably good in the ring

Benoit was amazing in the ring, that he was also a murderer does not change this

Despite being a crap faction, Aces & 8's might have the greatest entrance theme ever, Dixie's husband did a great job

JoshSansom wrote:In terms of the IWC:

- Daniel Bryan is a B+ player
- Dolph Ziggler is no more than a midcarder
- Damien Sandow shouldn't have won the WHC from John Cena
- Dean Ambrose won't be the biggest success out of the Shield
- In "burying" the roster Triple H is doing his job because he is ensuring he gets heat from both marks and the IWC
- Wade Barrett is overrated

He's only doing his job if the babyfaces get their revenge and Trips gets his comeuppance. He never (or at least VERY rarely) gets his comeuppance though.

Dr Gregory House MD wrote:Despite being a crap faction, Aces & 8's might have the greatest entrance theme ever, Dixie's husband did a great job

I concur

Although I prefer the version with lyrics that they used for about one week.

Dr Gregory House MD wrote:Despite being a crap faction, Aces & 8's might have the greatest entrance theme ever, Dixie's husband did a great job

I love it and think that there are about 4/5 themes that are really good in TNA at the moment:

AJ Styles
Bobby Roode
Bad Influence

TNA>WWE

Adam D wrote:

Dr Gregory House MD wrote:Despite being a crap faction, Aces & 8's might have the greatest entrance theme ever, Dixie's husband did a great job

I love it and think that there are about 4/5 themes that are really good in TNA at the moment:

AJ Styles
Bobby Roode
Bad Influence

Add James Storm's "Longnecks & Rednecks" to that list mate, love that choon!

Bad Influence's is very good.

I am sure someone said a few weeks ago on the podcast that all TNA tunes sound like generic rock music. But I think that it was most probably familiarity as they have got much better.

I even like the manik entrance music too!

Bad Influences is one I shouldnt like but it is really catchy in a eurotrash way.

When ever you criticise an aspect of wwe.

DrDeath wrote:TNA>WWE

Someone didn't they their meds this morning.

IT is a thread called unpopular wrestling opinions, keep up

Dr Gregory House MD wrote:

DrDeath wrote:Chris Benoit was actually reasonably good in the ring

Benoit was amazing in the ring, that he was also a murderer does not change this

I agree

Daniel Bryan isn't a main eventer.
AJ Styles is overated.
Randy Orton is underated.
The Summer of Punk 2011 was terrible.
Owen Hart was boring to watch.
So was Bret.
I don't agree with any of Dave Meltzer's WWE 5 Star rated matches.

Mr H wrote:Daniel Bryan isn't a main eventer.
AJ Styles is overated.
Randy Orton is underated.
The Summer of Punk 2011 was terrible.
Owen Hart was boring to watch.
So was Bret.
I don't agree with any of Dave Meltzer's WWE 5 Star rated matches.

 NONE of them?  Thats a bold statement.  Those were five outstanding matches.  What would you rate them, and would you consider any matches in WWE to be 5*?

I like John Cena
Fandango is still good

Kofi Kingston should be a main eventer.

hulk hogan best wrestler ever.

Samo wrote:

Mr H wrote:Daniel Bryan isn't a main eventer.
AJ Styles is overated.
Randy Orton is underated.
The Summer of Punk 2011 was terrible.
Owen Hart was boring to watch.
So was Bret.
I don't agree with any of Dave Meltzer's WWE 5 Star rated matches.

 NONE of them?  Thats a bold statement.  Those were five outstanding matches.  What would you rate them, and would you consider any matches in WWE to be 5*?

None of them. They'd all be 4/5 for me apart from Bret v Austin which would be 4.5. Punk v Cena was very very good but the finish prevents me from giving it 5 stars.

Savage/Warrior WM7
HBK v Taker WM25

They are my top 2 matches of all time. I can't split them. In terms of backstory, in ring performance, emotion, storytelling and outcome. Nothing beats them IMO. They are the only matches i'd rate with 5 stars. I think its too easy to throw around 5 star ratings. Too critical? Perhaps. But none of Meltzer's matches tick all of my boxes.

 

Mr H wrote:

Samo wrote:

Mr H wrote:Daniel Bryan isn't a main eventer.
AJ Styles is overated.
Randy Orton is underated.
The Summer of Punk 2011 was terrible.
Owen Hart was boring to watch.
So was Bret.
I don't agree with any of Dave Meltzer's WWE 5 Star rated matches.

 NONE of them?  Thats a bold statement.  Those were five outstanding matches.  What would you rate them, and would you consider any matches in WWE to be 5*?

None of them. They'd all be 4/5 for me apart from Bret v Austin which would be 4.5. Punk v Cena was very very good but the finish prevents me from giving it 5 stars.

Savage/Warrior WM7
HBK v Taker WM25

They are my top 2 matches of all time. I can't split them. In terms of backstory, in ring performance, emotion, storytelling and outcome. Nothing beats them IMO. They are the only matches i'd rate with 5 stars. I think its too easy to throw around 5 star ratings. Too critical? Perhaps. But none of Meltzer's matches tick all of my boxes.

 

Fair enough Mr H.  To each his own.  Have to agree with HBK vs Taker WM25, one of the greatest matches of all time.

Back on topic: I still think there's hope for alot of the lowercard jobbers, like Brodus and Drew McIntyre.
Randy Orton still bores me to tears.  Heel, babyface, doesnt matter, he doesnt do it for me.
The WWE Summer of Punk was awful.

The Summer of Punk was good imo, well it was good from just a bit before MITB till just before SummerSlam, then HHH got involved and it went downhill and became all about him and him going over Punk at NOC was a shocking decision; killed all of Punk's momentum

Punk was amazing, the WWE's treatment of him was awful.

Also, Roman Reigns will become the "face" of The Shield, the breakout star, not Ambrose or Rollins

Edge was always boring

Christian and Orton's feud was dull.

Guerrero is overrated.

Fandango and Maddox are two of the best "characters" in WWE.

WWE has been immensely more watchable with HHH as an authoritative heel.

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Christian and Orton's feud was dull. - 

Guerrero is overrated.

Fandango and Maddox are two of the best "characters" in WWE.

WWE has been immensely more watchable with HHH as an authoritative heel.

I thought Christian and Orton's feud was brilliant, but i can see why a lot of people didn't like it, i think its because WWE just made Christian look as weak as possible. But i brought into the feud and there matches were fantastic.

Surely chris benoit was a wife and child killing bar steward and the fact he was a brilliant wrestler doesn't change that?

My unpopular wrestling opinion is that nothing chris benoit did should ever be celebrated again. It's like remembering hitler for rebuilding germany before all the genocide or jimmy saville for his telly presenting skills.

Hulk hogan, triple h, john cena. All more hated by the majority of the iwc than benoit. Their crime? Hogging the limelight. Not quite murder is it?

I'm probably still gonna think Gambaccini was a good presenter even after all his fiddling.

Nobody celebrates it, the guys been erased from WWE history, but he was a good wrestler and a good "character" for me.

I wont bother going into why I dont see him as the animal some do

That's Batista you're thinking of

MidnightToker wrote:Surely chris benoit was a wife and child killing bar steward and the fact he was a brilliant wrestler doesn't change that?

My unpopular wrestling opinion is that nothing chris benoit did should ever be celebrated again. It's like remembering hitler for rebuilding germany before all the genocide or jimmy saville for his telly presenting skills.

Hulk hogan, triple h, john cena. All more hated by the majority of the iwc than benoit. Their crime? Hogging the limelight.  Not quite murder is it?

I couldnt have said it better myself.

kane in a suit is best for business

Jericho is actually doing a good job Jobbing to Other Wrestlers

I have no idea who gambaccini is lol.

Cheers shot, i really can't understand why people still praise benoit. Wouldn't matter if he won the nobel peace prize. No previous acheivement can really be considered important in the grand scheme of things now. Really think some wrestling fans need to get a sense of perspective sometimes.

Also, does anybody know how to use the quote function on an android phone? Having to flick up and down the screen in between typing sucks

I dont think anyone is saying "Chris Benoit was a good wrestler so really he was a stand up guy"

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:I dont think anyone is saying "Chris Benoit was a good wrestler so really he was a stand up guy"

There is definitely much more to it than 'Chris Benoit was evil'.

crippledtart wrote:
There is definitely much more to it than 'Chris Benoit was evil'.

I think thats probably my most unpopular wrestling opinion.

I'm not saying him being evil was the only factor that caused him to do it. I do think the 'brain of an 85 year old alzheimers patient' or similar claims made in the aftermath sounded a bit off. If that was the case how was he able to get himself from arena to arena, city to city etc, never mind wrestle a match?

He was obviously mentally ill but in what other sport or any walk of life could somebody do what benoit did and still have people want to remember them for their work rather than their final, horrible actions?

I'm not having a dig at anyone specific. It just winds me up that in some circles he's talked about as a legend. Probably not on this forum but i have seen people rant and rave that he hasn't been inducted to the hall of fame.

It wasnt cold blooded evilness, and there were definitely other factors that drove him to do what he did, but he still murdered an innocent woman and child. And for that he should be treated exactly the way WWE treat him - completely forgotten about.

I totally agree that he should be wiped out of WWE history. It would serve no purpose to put him in the hall of fame or acknowledge his career. I just think the case itself is complex.

Is it an unpopular opinion to think that Jerry Lawler is a terrible commentator?

The BroMans are the one of the best tag teams around at the moment.

Think the king was a great commentator up until he was replaced by paul heyman. Don't think he ever got back into full heel mode after that

crippledtart wrote:Is it an unpopular opinion to think that Jerry Lawler is a terrible commentator?

I don't think that's an unpopular opinion at all crips, I'd go so far as to say that the commentary in both the WWE and TNA has gone to complete and utter sh*t.

They need a 3 man commentary team of JBL, CM Punk and Vince McMahon.

WHAT A MANNOUVRE

I don't know if it's an unpopular opinion but Gunner's nicknames of 'The Modern Day Viking' and Mike Tenay's favourite 'Mr. Intensity' are friggin' abominable.

theundisputedY2D2 wrote:
I don't know if it's an unpopular opinion but Gunner's nicknames of 'The Modern Day Viking' and Mike Tenay's favourite 'Mr. Intensity' are friggin' abominable.

I cant imagine anyone liking that!

I was surprised that no one challenged my comment about the BroMans being one of the best tag teams in the biz!

theundisputedY2D2 wrote:
I don't know if it's an unpopular opinion but Gunner's nicknames of 'The Modern Day Viking' and Mike Tenay's favourite 'Mr. Intensity' are friggin' abominable.

I think that they should nickname Adrian Neville as the "modern Day Saxon" but not the historical one. just a version of Biff bifford.

Adam D wrote:

theundisputedY2D2 wrote:
I don't know if it's an unpopular opinion but Gunner's nicknames of 'The Modern Day Viking' and Mike Tenay's favourite 'Mr. Intensity' are friggin' abominable.

I think that they should nickname Adrian Neville as the "modern Day Saxon" but not the historical one. just a version of Biff bifford.

If he comes out to 'Wheels of Steel' then i'm all for it. Not sure many people will know who Biff Byford is though Adam. Might just be me and you mate.

Adam D wrote:

theundisputedY2D2 wrote:
I don't know if it's an unpopular opinion but Gunner's nicknames of 'The Modern Day Viking' and Mike Tenay's favourite 'Mr. Intensity' are friggin' abominable.

I think that they should nickname Adrian Neville as the "modern Day Saxon" but not the historical one. just a version of Biff bifford.

But will Adrian Neville be wearing face paint?!

Mr H wrote:

Adam D wrote:

theundisputedY2D2 wrote:
I don't know if it's an unpopular opinion but Gunner's nicknames of 'The Modern Day Viking' and Mike Tenay's favourite 'Mr. Intensity' are friggin' abominable.

I think that they should nickname Adrian Neville as the "modern Day Saxon" but not the historical one. just a version of Biff bifford.

If he comes out to 'Wheels of Steel' then i'm all for it. Not sure many people will know who Biff Byford is though Adam. Might just be me and you mate.

By my spellign of his name it might just be you who knows!!

I think Dallas 1pm would be better in American territories.