Froch-Groves Undercard

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Aside from being served up a load of Gallagher Gym nonsense are we actually going to see anything worthwhile?

Crolla-Gethin is far from mouth watering but I'll watch it in preference to whoever Quigg and McDonnell are likely to be in against. Fielding? Ffs.

One decent chief support could have saved this but its a poor showing imho.

Just read Murray's fight, currently vs nobody, could be a non-title fight.....

People moaning about this Froch v Groves card make me laugh. There will be some good fights on the undercard and an intriging Main Event. It's PPV, yes, at what, 14.99? Try the $60 minimum we pay in North America for bum cards that Top Rank throw together.
 
Sometimes I prefer the casual fan to hardcore boxing fans. This will be a great night for the sport as the main event is guarenteed entertainment. Will also appeal to the masses.
 
Can't wait.

It's not fashionable to get excited about the big fights, sean.

I'm looking forward to the main event. Can you be less vague about these other good fights please.

Stephen Foster Jr. in for Gethin against Crolla. Not sure whether that's a better fight to be honest.

Pull the other one Hearn.....sorry....sean.

Its a poor undercard, anyone can see that. Hearn obviously thinks the main event is good enough to warrant not needing a strong undercard. time will tell

mobilemaster8 wrote:Pull the other one Hearn.....sorry....sean.

Really, I am just defending the event. I do think there are decent names on the undercard, if not great matchups. I would still pay 15 beans for it though

I've started to realise that this is only a poor undercard to genuine boxing fans. To the casual the card is immense with all those names, the lack of any worthwhile competition seems to be neither here nor there.

Anyway, hyped for this now regardless of the card. Buying into the hype.

KingMonkey wrote:I've started to realise that this is only a poor undercard to genuine boxing fans.  To the casual the card is immense with all those names, the lack of any worthwhile competition seems to be neither here nor there.

Anyway, hyped for this now regardless of the card.  Buying into the hype.

Exactly, and it is the casuals they are looking to rope in. We will watch anyway

Id disagree Sean if in honest.

in the UK we are getting the likes of Mayweather vs Alvarez/Cotto, Alexander vs Porter, Malignaggi vs Judah, Mathyssee vs Garcia etc etc all for £10 A MONTH.

Why would we pay £15 (a fiver MORE) to watch ONE title fight between an experienced champion and a domestic/european level fighter who is yet un proven at euro level let alone world?

Had the undercard contained Chisora vs Proce, Mitchell vs Rees, Matthews vs Crolla 3, Or some decent fight, then id probably agree to pay.

Had the main been Froch vs Ward/Kessler/Hopkins/Dawson/Stevenson/Kovalev etc etc then the price would be justified.

At the moment, it should be labelled "The Night Of Mismatches"

Its a joke of a card. And thats that.

Casuals have no idea who Callum Smith, Antony Crolla etc are so why would they be excited for them???

Hearn said this fight couldn't have been signed unless it was PPV.....yet Froch vs Bute was regular Sky Sports  

You've all convinced me, does anyone want two tickets, train tickets from Sheffield and a hotel room, I'll stop in and watch X factor.

Im in, It is a poor undercard for a fight that doesnt really deserve to be a box office event, but im really looking forward to the main event and the 7/8 rounds i think it will last will be very exciting.

Buying a ticket is fine Jeff, Would be good to attend. But having to pay nearly half the ticket price whne your sitting at home is a bit of a nonsense

Im in, It is a poor undercard for a fight that doesnt really deserve to be a box office event,  but im really looking forward to the main event and the 7/8 rounds i think it will last will be very exciting and no doubt we will be treated to a hundred or so Benn-Eubank references as every British fight with abit of niggle is always compared and bigged up to be the new Benn-Eubank rivalry!.

Casuals see Joshua and Campbell along with a bit of hype toward Crolla (Mancs know who he is) and Murray. Therefore, they see a good card.

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote: But having to pay nearly half the ticket price whne your sitting at home is a bit of a nonsense

If only they were that cheap Reborn, you can't seriously expect TSMR to sit with the lumpen proletariat surely.

Rowley wrote:

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote: But having to pay nearly half the ticket price whne your sitting at home is a bit of a nonsense

If only they were that cheap Reborn, you can't seriously expect TSMR to sit with the lumpy proletariat surely.

I take it you're not sitting together then?

DAVE667 wrote:

Rowley wrote:

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote: But having to pay nearly half the ticket price whne your sitting at home is a bit of a nonsense

If only they were that cheap Reborn, you can't seriously expect TSMR to sit with the lumpy proletariat surely.

I take it you're not sitting together then?

We rarely spend any time together Dave, find it is the key to a successful marriage. For some reason she does not seem particularly interested in the career of John L Sullivan or whether Charley Burley is the best fighter ever.

Rowley wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:

Rowley wrote:

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote: But having to pay nearly half the ticket price whne your sitting at home is a bit of a nonsense

If only they were that cheap Reborn, you can't seriously expect TSMR to sit with the lumpy proletariat surely.

I take it you're not sitting together then?

We rarely spend any time together Dave, find it is the key to a successful marriage. For some reason she does not seem particularly interested in the career of John L Sullivan or whether Charley Burley is the best fighter ever.

Agree absolutely, if you're not together you can't have a row (getting rid of your mobile is another sound move). I've informed the wife that Froch is fighting at the weekend...she says that's interesting but ultimately she doesn't care and we're still going out with friends. However, I planted the seeds the other week with her mate's husband by telling him about the fight. He may suggest we go back to theirs and watch it however, as he's an Everton fan and it's the Merseyside Derby this weekend, there's more potential for tears, tantrums, upset and words you wish you hadn't said in the heat of the moment and after five pints of Guiness so I may just have to contend myself with knowing that the result isn't going to be any different whether I watch the fight or not.

Haito wrote:Im in, It is a poor undercard for a fight that doesnt really deserve to be a box office event,  but im really looking forward to the main event and the 7/8 rounds i think it will last will be very exciting and no doubt we will be treated to a hundred or so Benn-Eubank references as every British fight with abit of niggle is always compared and bigged up to be the new Benn-Eubank rivalry!.

Ha Haito. It's true love when you'll fork out for pay per view, just to hear a mention of your hero!

So the undercard merry-go-round continues...

Joshua is off the card due to injury.
Martin Murray is off, due to a virus.
Stephen Smith is on (wonder if he has vacated the british title).
Andy Lee has been added today, which means Adam Booth will be in the building... hmm....

Where have you heard the news about Martin Murray?!

http://www.worldboxingnews.net/news/2013/11/20/froch-v-groves-martin-murray-out-andy-lee-in.html

KingMonkey wrote:Dirrell's holding and grabbing was far from slick defensive stuff of the sweet science. It was ugly in the extreme. Close fight I didn't think Dirrell deserve to take.

Hold tight, the card has been saved though. Callum Smith has pit his WBC international super cross continental nothingness belt on the line. Phew.  Meanwhile Rocky 'no shoulders' Fielding beats up another kidnapped African who looks confused and can't box.

No shoulders? Think you need to have a proper look at him  

Fighting Luke Blackledge now, can't wait for this!

*whistles* Blackledge eh..... E still my beating heart. Fielding is a chump. If his fight against another chump is something worthy of a ppv card, well, its a sorry state of affairs.

King you havent got a clue lad. Calling contenders chumps.

Don't buy it then! You have got a choice.

I'm going! I figured it'd be a decent enough card, I was wrong.

What exactly is Fielding a contender of? Who is he contending with?

Pretty sure Fielding is mandatory for the British belt against Paul Smith.

Not sure if anyone has seen the press conference, but the stare down was pretty tasty.

Has to be doesn't it, try an inject some life into a flacid card!

Fielding has said he isn't ready for Smith (LOL). And Paul will no doubt vacate so Callum can win it (Fielding won't be ready for Callum).

That said, I hope its a good fight.

Pretty sure Fielding said after his last fight he'd take the Smith anytime but Smith said he wants to vacate the belt for Callum.

Froch is going in to this with the sole intention of knocking Groves out cold, if Groves is able to box and move all night then Froch will look clumsy in my opinion.

Get into it you Scrooges........

Hearn is giving his fighters early christmas presents....Where is your festive spirit !!!!

I wonder how much money you would make if you stuck 50 quid on an accumulator for all the favourites to win on this card? I cant see there being any upsets.

Throw in Pacquaio to beat Rios on top

KingMonkey wrote:Has to be doesn't it, try an inject some life into a flacid card!  

Fielding has said he isn't ready for Smith (LOL).  And Paul will no doubt vacate so Callum can win it (Fielding won't be ready for Callum).

That said, I hope its a good fight.

I would like to see Callum fighting someone who can cause him some problems and who can actually punch before proclaiming him to be the second coming.

Fielding v Blackledge should be a great fight, specially on short notice!

I can't get away with Fielding. Does anyone remember his interview on sky sports after one of his fights. He was practically begging Smith to vacate. Looked petrified.

It's about time Fielding stepped it up a little.............He's as good as he's going to get !!

Then again not sure what they can do with him.........He's a decent fighter in a very decent division......

The Smith point is a valid one also..........Didn't appear to want a glorified journeyman..

Lumbering_Jack wrote:I can't get away with Fielding. Does anyone remember his interview on sky sports after one of his fights. He was practically begging Smith to vacate. Looked petrified.

Nope dont remember that.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:It's about time Fielding stepped it up a little.............He's as good as he's going to get !!

Then again not sure what they can do with him.........He's a decent fighter in a very decent division......

The Smith point is a valid one also..........Didn't appear to want a glorified journeyman..

He's been with a strenght and conditioning coach for a little while now and has started to reep its rewards. He's got good skills and can fight on the front and backfoot. He's quite heavy handed aswell. I agree that he does need to step it up now and the Blackledge fight is definately a step in the right direction.

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:

Lumbering_Jack wrote:I can't get away with Fielding. Does anyone remember his interview on sky sports after one of his fights. He was practically begging Smith to vacate. Looked petrified.

Nope dont remember that.

Smith was a pundit in the studio and Fielding was kissing his arse...

'Smith is great', 'Smith will hopefully move to world level and vacate', 'I'm not ready for Smith'.

It was painful to watch.

Lumbering_Jack wrote:

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:

Lumbering_Jack wrote:I can't get away with Fielding. Does anyone remember his interview on sky sports after one of his fights. He was practically begging Smith to vacate. Looked petrified.

Nope dont remember that.

Smith was a pundit in the studio and Fielding was kissing his arse...

'Smith is great', 'Smith will hopefully move to world level and vacate', 'I'm not ready for Smith'.

It was painful to watch.

I know what you mean, it wasn't those exact words but he was told to say these things. Both have respect for each other as they have know each other for years.

I might be biased but I think he's all wrong for Smith.

He wasn't told to say anything.......

Are you his Mum ???........

He's an adult..

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:He wasn't told to say anything.......

Are you his Mum ???........

He's an adult..

Nope his cousin haha.

Oliver wants to move him on slowly like he did with Murray. He obviously knows him best and wants to iron out any frailties in his game before making the step up. Once you have stepped up, there’s no stepping back without looking weak.

So Andy lee has come in as Martin Murray world class replacement yet he fighting someone already Bethan by rocky fielding , oh what a contest that is a joke.

sparxz wrote:So Andy lee has come in as Martin Murray world class replacement yet he fighting someone already Bethan by rocky fielding , oh what a contest that is a joke.

In one round aswell  

Not that African guy from last time out. The bloke looked as though he hadn't a clue where he was!

KingMonkey wrote:Not that African guy from last time out.  The bloke looked as though he hadn't a clue where he was!

No some Hungarian fella he fought in his 10th fight.

Tomarto, tomayto.

So if Andy lee takes more than 1 round can we have lee v fielding on the Xmas bill. Would be close